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Posted by matt on October 26, 2001 at 16:29:56:

Has anyone heard of/ know anything about fecal transfusions?
I just read a post about it on another BB and there seems to be a fair bit about it on the web. Apparently the medical profession is tentatively behind it too, very strange.



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by tony on October 26, 2001 at 21:20:13:

In Reply to: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 26, 2001 at 16:29:56:

ok matt, you got my attention........where are some of these sites so i can check this out..sounds freaky.the transferring of feces....nice



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 27, 2001 at 09:53:31:

In Reply to: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 26, 2001 at 16:29:56:

Hi, Matt.

I hope you are referring to fecal colonics. This technique has been discussed on this BB and is (I think) in the colon problems archives.

Walt

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Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by matt on October 27, 2001 at 15:53:20:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by tony on October 26, 2001 at 21:20:13:

No Dr.Stoll I wasn't refering to colonics.

Apparently a sample of stool from someone with healthy bowel ecology is transferred into the bowel of a patient with any number of GI disorders of bacterial origin with the apparent result that the patients bowel ecology is returned to normal and the patient regains health.

A paper on this was published in The American Journal Of Gastroenterology and here is the link:



Re: fecal transfusions - journal link

Posted by matt on October 27, 2001 at 15:54:58:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 27, 2001 at 15:53:20:

Sorry, here is the link:
www-east.elsevier.com/ajg/issues/9511/ajg3277edi.htm

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Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 2001 at 15:46:18:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 27, 2001 at 15:53:20:

Thanks, Matt.

A colonic is HOW they do it. A "transfusion" is into the blood.

I reported the study you mentioned about 6 months ago and it is in the archives.

Walt



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by matt on October 28, 2001 at 17:34:44:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by Walt Stoll on October 28, 2001 at 15:46:18:

Yeah I realise that is how it's done, 'transfusion' is how it is described in all the information on the net.

What word would you used to describe the procedure. I thought 'transfusion' simply meant transfering a substance from one person to another.

My original question was 'does anybody have any info on the procedure?' do you have anything other than reporting on the original journal article?



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by matt on October 28, 2001 at 18:52:11:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 28, 2001 at 17:34:44:

I should be more specific I think!

What I really want to know is do you think the procedure is a) safe b)likely to be succesful for bowel disorders of microbial origin.

Also the author of the article mentions getting permission to develop a probiotic capsule that would work in the same way. How do you expect these would differ from the multitude of probiotics already on the market?

thanks

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Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 2001 at 10:42:51:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 28, 2001 at 17:34:44:

Thanks, Matt.

I think that the authors deliberately chose this term for the shock effect. Although, technically, it is correct, coloquilly it is not.

I had forgotten that that is how they had put it.

It is much safer and more effective than any other of the horrendous treatments devised by the allopathic community to date for these terrible colonic conditions.

Hope this helps. I appreciate you bringing it up again. When I put it on the 'site, many months ago, it elicited so little comment that I was disappointed.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by matt on October 29, 2001 at 12:43:07:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by Walt Stoll on October 29, 2001 at 10:42:51:

I am in desperate need of help for my candida problem as are both my mother and sister. I have ben ill since age 11 (am now 22) and am at the point where eating anything other than meat literally poisons me with alcohol/aldehyde. I can expect a hangover including sweating, shaking, vomitting etc lasting upto a week from eating anything more carby than green green veg.

We have tried all the usual treatments including flying to Mexico (from the uk) for a month of intensive oxidative therapy at an alternative hospital at great expense and all have failed and completely baffled all the doctors/therapists.

Do you think it would be worth trying the aforementioned technique as it does sound promising and if you feel it is a safe procedure I can't see a reason not to try in my families current predicament?



Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by matt on October 29, 2001 at 12:50:38:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 29, 2001 at 12:43:07:

Sorry my brain doesn't work very well!

I also wondered if you know of anywhere in Europe where this might be performed or is my best bet writing to the author of the original journal paper?

many thanks

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Re: fecal transfusions

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 30, 2001 at 09:23:12:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by matt on October 29, 2001 at 12:43:07:

Thanks, Matt.

My first suggestion would be to educate yourself with the cutting edge understanding about this with the book mentioned in the archives. Let us know what you learn from this. Since the author is still actively practicing and teaching, he would likely know who in the world is up on conditions like yours. You have had this for 11 years in spite of the best the world has to offer. Now is the time to deliberately progress.

Walt



Re: fecal transfusions - where in the archives?

Posted by matt on October 30, 2001 at 12:20:54:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions posted by Walt Stoll on October 30, 2001 at 09:23:12:

Thanks for the help Dr Stoll.

Can you rememeber what heading the previous messages about the procedure are under in the archives so that I can find out about this book?

Thanks again



Re: fecal transfusions - where in the archives? (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 31, 2001 at 09:13:15:

In Reply to: Re: fecal transfusions - where in the archives? posted by matt on October 30, 2001 at 12:20:54:

Matt,

Since I cannot recall which archives, here it is again: "Optimal Digestion--New Strategies for Achieving Digestive Health" by Trent Nichols,MD, & Nancy Faass, MSW, MPH

Let us know what you learn.

Walt

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