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LGS/Candida

Posted by DJ on March 09, 2002 at 11:21:44:

Dr. Stoll-

I have LGS, but am not sure if I have Candida. My tongue is pale pink/slightly whitish first thing in the morning, but does not have the white sores/buds that have been mentioned in some of the BB posts. I have had a colonoscopy (the doc said everything looked "squeaky clean and normal") and many stool samples (all negative) but I was not tested for Candida specifically. I could probably get tested, but I know that they would not let me choose the lab that I wanted the samples to be sent to. Any suggestions? Or should I just assume that I have Candida by the color of my tongue?

Assuming that I have it, I'm not sure what to do next. I've read through many of the Candida posts, but there are so many different suggestions and so many things to take, elminiate and do, I am left very confused. Can you break it down for me as to what to do to begin ridding the Candida? How long does it take generally?

Thank you-
DJ



Re: LGS/Candida

Posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 09, 2002 at 12:25:06:

In Reply to: LGS/Candida posted by DJ on March 09, 2002 at 11:21:44:

Hi DJ - Contact me at (alternative.health@verizon.net) and I'll email you a Questionnaire that you can answer which will help me - to help you!



Re: LGS/Candida

Posted by Denise on March 09, 2002 at 13:38:21:

In Reply to: Re: LGS/Candida posted by S.H.A.P.E. on March 09, 2002 at 12:25:06:

I like to have this guestionaire too.

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see post below "tongue question" by SS. nmi

Posted by labrat on March 09, 2002 at 14:30:58:

In Reply to: LGS/Candida posted by DJ on March 09, 2002 at 11:21:44:

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Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 10, 2002 at 08:54:17:

In Reply to: LGS/Candida posted by DJ on March 09, 2002 at 11:21:44:

Hi, DJ.

Time for you to get a modern doc!

Even the CDC says that local labs (the ones your present docs seem to be addicted to) only find one in fifty parasites deliberately placed in a test specimen to certify their license. Since this is the average in the country they are certified with that dismal record!

So far, the candida questionaire is still the most accurate test for the presence of candida. Some people just need a lab test for "proof" but this is not the most accurate way to find out. Positive tests are accurate since one cannot see something that is not there. However, negative tests usually mean that the organism was just missed.

I have seen no evidence that a "coated tongue" is directly related to candida. There is some evidence that it is related to LGS and LGS is necessary for candida to get out of control.

Your doc is still of the old school: "If there is no structural change, everything is normal." The fact is that FUNCTION changes long before structure is changed.

This is like the doc 200 years ago who said that there could be no germs as cause of overt disease since they could not be seen with the naked eye. Primitive!

In MY opinion, the first thing to do is start dealing with the LGS.

Let us know how you do.

Walt




Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by DJ on March 10, 2002 at 10:10:10:

In Reply to: Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 10, 2002 at 08:54:17:

Dr. Stoll-

Thank you! I will try the questionnaire.

I have read through a bunch of posts, and am still overwhelmed/confused as to what to do to fight the Candida as opposed to just LGS. I understand the diet, but what sort of herbs, supplements, anti-fungals, probiotics, etc. go with the treatment of each? Or can I take one big radical approach and knock out both at once? (if Candida is even present)

I have been on the strict Candida diet for a few days now, but have found that I get constipated from the lack of grains. (Even with all the veggies I am eating.) I am taking FiberCon, but even that is little relief. Any suggestions?

One other question: I have fighting allergies/hypersensitivies. Is it okay to take an antihistamine while fighting the Candida and/or LGS until my body gets strong enough to fight the allergies on its own? Or will the antihistamine "undo" what I'm doing for my body? I'm trying to avoid an infection at all costs.

Thank you-
DJ



Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 11, 2002 at 08:57:16:

In Reply to: Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.) posted by DJ on March 10, 2002 at 10:10:10:

Thanks. DJ.

What anti-candida diet are you using? Certainly not the one I recommend. I would not even try using diet without having read and understood Beth Loiselle's book.

If it were me, I would focus no the LGS with SR, L-glutamine and probiotics while I was learning how to attack the candida.

My experience with treating candida, directly, is with pure Nystatin Powder USP. HY is more experienced with the other approaches.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.)

Posted by DJ on March 11, 2002 at 11:37:43:

In Reply to: Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.) posted by Walt Stoll on March 11, 2002 at 08:57:16:

Thank you.

I just ordered Beth Loiselle's book, as well as your book, and look forward to reading them.

In the meantime, I've been doing SR for about a week (that's when I discovered this board), and am by no means a pro at it yet, but am still learning.

Does acidipholis work as a probiotic? I've heard that it actually feeds Candida, and that FloraSource is better. Is this true?

Would you suggest going on the Nyastatin powder right away? I'm nervous about obtaining a prescription for it. I live in a small town, and my regular doc is very "old school." Unfortunately, there's not many choices in my area AND staying within the insurance provider's network on top of that is quite a challenge. Any suggestions on this??

Thank you-
DJ



Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in candida)

Posted by Walt Stoll on March 12, 2002 at 09:33:08:

In Reply to: Re: LGS/Candida (Archive in LGS.) posted by DJ on March 11, 2002 at 11:37:43:

Hi, DJ.

There can be no reason (other than ignorance and ego) why your doc would not prescribe Pure Nystatin Powder, USP, since it is one of the few prescription substances with absolutely NO side-effects. It should not even BE on prescription and only is because the AMA would like EVERYTHING in the world to be "by prescription only"!

Acidophilus IS a probiotic.

However, there are many different combinations and MANY different levels of quality on the market. HY would be the best resource for you about this.

If you think your doc is going to be a problem, I would just do all the other things and see how you are doing in a few months. If you are still having ANY symptoms, it might then be worth fighting the doc about a Rx.

Let us know how you do.

Walt

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