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5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by Hope on April 05, 2002 at 15:57:33:

Hi Dr. Stoll

The baby's mother asked me to post these questions. She does not have a computer. Teh baby is only breast fed. The mother takes no supplements. The mother has removed all allergens from her diet. She has had MCS and was 79 pounds 3 years ago. She is now a normal weight - probobly 120. She is eating meat and vegetables and potatos. She will not take supplements because she is too sensitive still. The baby still has weepy red eczema on his face inside of elbows and legs and a red rectum. The mother has the following questions

1) is it ok to use steroids or cortisone cream on the baby? will this hurt Him\?
2) what moisturizer would you use on the baby?
3) WHAT oils would you reccommend that the baby take and or the mother take?
4) can you give flax oil to a baby
5) would you r3eccommend abc acidophilus or what acidophilus would you reccommend
6) what soap and shampoo would you reccommend and is it ok to give htis baby a bath? ( someone told her it is not)
7) what sunscreen would you use for the baby - he lives in florida

thank you

mom is HOPE



Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by MAI on April 05, 2002 at 17:22:07:

In Reply to: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by Hope on April 05, 2002 at 15:57:33:

There may be LINK between MOTHERS MCS (mercury poisoning) and newborn egzema.

Did baby had any contact with broken mercury termometers?

Did baby had jundice and was under lamps in an incubator?
Aren't those some types of burns?


From what you are saying may be ACRODYNIA (Pink Disease).

Tell mother to avoid using prefab diapers, use only COTTON washable one as it may aggrevate condition.
All clothing should be COTTON no synthetics!
Syntethic may "hurt", and aggrevate condition.
Could baby be feed using liqifying "boiled to insanity" rice "glue"? tapioka? fresh pesticide free carrot juice?

1) is it ok to use steroids or cortisone cream on the baby? will this hurt Him\?

I belive cortisone is OK. Will NOT hurt.
Which one is hurting more?

2) what moisturizer would you use on the baby?
Moisturaisers may aggrevate condition, unscented baby powder! Cortisone shall help.

3) WHAT oils would you reccommend that the baby take and or the mother take? Johnson's UNSCENTED Baby Formula.
Olive oil?


4) can you give flax oil to a baby
Only qualified pediatrition specialyizing in "babies" could help.

5) would you reccommend abc acidophilus or what acidophilus would you reccommend
The decision must be made by pediatritian.

6) what soap and shampoo would you reccommend and is it ok to give this baby a bath? ( someone told her it is not)

AVOID ANY chemicals ! Why using shampoo at all?

Spoap there are non-soap bars, fragrance-free and non-comedogenic Galderma Cetaphil - it should be gentle enough. It doesn't leave behind any irritating residue and is non-comedogenic.

CetaphilŪ Moisturizing Lotion
Specifically formulated for chronically dry skin.
The fragrance-free moisturizer contains no lanolins or parabens that could irritate sensitive skin.
CetaphilŪ Gentle Cleansing Bar
A soap-free bar for your face, and all over!

CetaphilŪ Gentle Cleansing bar is a gentle, non-alkaline, non-soap bar designed for dry, sensitive skin. It moisturizes as it cleans. It is free of harsh detergents that might dry or irritate your skin.

Non-comedogenic CetaphilŪ Moisturizing Lotion is an elegant, non-greasy formulation that is mild, non-irritating and long lasting.
CetaphilŪ Gentle Skin Cleanser is great to treat the dryness caused by topical medications. Originally formulated for dermatologists, it is gentle on your skin and sensitive to your needs. Made specifically for dry, sensitive skin, it won't irritate the way harsh alkaline soaps do. CetaphilŪ Gentle Skin Cleanser will not strip the skin of natural protective oils or emollients, or disturb the skin's natural pH balance.

Avoid "Chemical wipes". Tepid water without soap could be sufficient. Do not RUB with towels when washing or drying, needs gentle "padding".

7) what sunscreen would you use for the baby - he lives in florida

Sun is benefitial for health, as it help ...

Avoid sun exposure as it may irritate, until condition will improve.



Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by
Cheezi on April 05, 2002 at 23:27:41:

In Reply to: Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by MAI on April 05, 2002 at 17:22:07:

I don't know what kind of soap Jaylon's mom used on him, but his doctor told her to use baby oil on his skin afterward. We also used cortisone cream on his rashes, also myconazole cream. Another mom I know told me that her doctor recommended flax seed oil be given to him. None of these kept the Eczema from coming back, though. Supplements accomplished that.



Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by MAI on April 06, 2002 at 00:37:42:

In Reply to: Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by Cheezi on April 05, 2002 at 23:27:41:

Is that EXTERNAL or INTERNAL cause?
Before sucessful diagnosis you need to determine causation.

Myconazole cream is topical steroids.

I am not convinced it is allergy, or sensitivity, it may not be also egzema.

In cases of older person they could perform skin biopsy to get some hints.
Treatments without well defined causation are of highly questionable value.




Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema (For Hope.) (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 06, 2002 at 10:13:57:

In Reply to: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by Hope on April 05, 2002 at 15:57:33:

Hope,

The fact that you had MCS says, almost certainly, that this tyke has a genetic susceptibility.

Questions in order:
1. Steroid creams will give temporary benefits and, if you can figure out how to stop the process the 6 months it would take to resolve the problem would not be enough to permanently damage him.
2. Anything hypoallergenic.
3. Impossible to tell from here.
4. Yes, so long as he does not react to it.
5. I would use Soil-Based Bacteria in this ticklish situation.
6. NO problem with giving the kid a bath but DO use hypoallergenic stuff.
7. Hypoallergenic but a baby is pretty easy to shield from the sun with shade.

You need to see someone knowledgeable enough to prescribe pure Nystatin Powder USP and give the baby 750,000 units 4 times a day for at least a couple of months. See the archives about nystatin. See the candida archives to learn more about this.

Let us know how he does.

Walt



Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by jope on April 06, 2002 at 17:04:39:

In Reply to: Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by MAI on April 06, 2002 at 00:37:42:

what else could it be besides eczema and how would one know what the actual cause was



Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 07, 2002 at 08:01:06:

In Reply to: Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema posted by jope on April 06, 2002 at 17:04:39:

Hi, jope.

Pretty hard to miss this diagnosis.

Walt

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Old-Fashioned Approach

Posted by Rockie on April 08, 2002 at 17:12:08:

In Reply to: Re: 5 month old baby with severe exzema (For Hope.) (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll on April 06, 2002 at 10:13:57:

Speaking from experience (personal)...avoid baths, soaps, creams, lotions, most laundry detergents and mineral oils. Baths are very drying to the skin and a 5 month old really doesn't need to be cleaned frequently, despite our society's obsession to do so.

Long baths and hot water are very drying to the skin. Soaps often have perfumes and other irritating substances so I'd avoid anything other than the mildest variety like Calendula soap. Again, babies require little if any.

Lotions and sunscreens contain preservatives that are irritating. Only Burt's Bees (and one other I can't think of) don't use these. Better yet would be a little pure coconut oil (not coconut butter). I'd use that on the baby before baths and pat dry with a towel after.

I'd avoid all wipes and opt for soft cloths and water. We traveled with these using ziploc bags, old yogurt containers and then washing in a perfume, dye-free detergent.

The mom should try eating cultured veges and maybe taking Primal Defense. Since she's breastfeeding, that'll help the baby.

Hope this helps.

Remember that cleanliness is not next to Godliness. Those are the words of Cleveland Denton, my former dermatologist who believed in common sense approaches to this stuff.



Re: Old-Fashioned Approach

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 09, 2002 at 10:09:14:

In Reply to: Old-Fashioned Approach posted by Rockie on April 08, 2002 at 17:12:08:

Thanks, Rockie.

I couldn't agree more. That is why I kept saying "hypoallergenic" to any and all requests for "chemicals".

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Old-Fashioned Approach

Posted by Rockie on April 10, 2002 at 13:30:09:

In Reply to: Re: Old-Fashioned Approach posted by Walt Stoll on April 09, 2002 at 10:09:14:

The same common-sense dermatologist said that "hypoallergenic" doesn't make much difference because of the preservatives. That's why I recommended Burt's Bees brand. Commerical hypoallergenic products will be just as irritating as not.

I also had to be careful not to touch the newspaper and then the skin around my eyes (the area that was affected). I was told it was due to the formaldehyde used in processing.



Re: Old-Fashioned Approach

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 11, 2002 at 09:37:51:

In Reply to: Re: Old-Fashioned Approach posted by Rockie on April 10, 2002 at 13:30:09:

Thanks, Rockie.

Although "hypoallergenic" is still not well regulated, an ethical company would not put preservatives in anything called hypoallergenic.

Walt



Re: Old-Fashioned Approach

Posted by Rockie on April 18, 2002 at 14:07:30:

In Reply to: Re: Old-Fashioned Approach posted by Walt Stoll on April 11, 2002 at 09:37:51:

I forgot to mention the preservatives...they're methyl- and propyl-paraben. You can hardly find a cosmetic without them.

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