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Hi BBers,
I keep reading that the gallstones that have passed after a liver flush are just the oil. Can that be definitely proven not to be the case? I don't want to recommend a flush to my skeptical ma without good evidence!
What are the options for someone with gallstones like my mother? Interestingly, she has always suffered from an acid constitution, I wonder whether that's linked.
Jane
In Reply to: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 02:29:34:
There's an article in the Lancet (UK medical journal) that shows liver-flush stones can be make outside of the body from a component of olive oil and lemon juice. I don't know if that means liver flushes are bogus for sure, but there's a strong possibility those stones are not what they seem!
I'll try to find the link to the article. Probably it's on Curezone somewhere...
In Reply to: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 02:29:34:
Jane,
Stones can be real small, like grains of sand or bigger like soft marbles..They can have a grity feel, like sand paper or a fatty, rubber feel..They are the result of a poor diet, made of acid forming foods and stress..If you do a liver and/or gallbladder flush but keep eating the same poor diet, the stones will reform..
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 02:29:34:
One of the times I did a flush, I got some of the stones out, small ones. A couple weeks later, I was drinking and eating lots of parsley and lemon water for a few days and one morning there was a rumbling below my ribs and more of those stones came out. Actually the sound below my ribs was more like a forceful psh-psh-psh, as if they were being shot out. No olive oil involved.
In Reply to: Re: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by ph [3334.1708] on June 17, 2005 at 09:56:50:
Thanks ph, that's really interesting
Jane
In Reply to: Re: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 07:51:15:
So they're not hard? The pictures through google look like pebbles!
Jane
In Reply to: Re: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by kt [3282.1782] on June 17, 2005 at 05:07:52:
Thanks kt - I'll do some research!
Jane
In Reply to: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 02:29:34:
I'm not sure if olive oil can be hardened at 98.6 degrees (body temperature). Even when mixed with lemon or anything else.
There are many sites taht show pictures of different kinds of stones. If you have done a flush, you would recognize yours (if you had any).
I've heard the same thing about grapefruit pieces
being the stone and the olive oil the "shell" around the grapefruit piece, but still, at that high of a temperature, how could it happen?
In Reply to: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 02:29:34:
Hi, Jane.
In my opinion most of the blobs are coagulated oil. However, some of these blobs are congealed around small stones. The results, when it comes to symptoms, indicates that something more than passage of stones is going on.
In my practice, I was able to stop sending my GB patients for surgery once I learned to use the GB flush. Since it is safe and cheap, why not use it as the first line of defense?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: gallstones post flush - are they just the oil? posted by Jane (1) [111.1399] on June 17, 2005 at 20:06:56:
Jane,
They become hard after they dry out..
Silver Fox!
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