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Posted by Erin on October 20, 2000 at 11:57:11:

I had a CAT SCAN of the abdomen done and they said everything was normal except for a fatty liver. What is a fatty liver? I do not drink ANY alcohol at all. Can someone explain to me what a fatty liver is? Thanks.



Re: Fatty Liver - maybe...

Posted by kmd on October 20, 2000 at 13:48:44:

In Reply to: Fatty Liver posted by Erin on October 20, 2000 at 11:57:11:

Hi,

I don't know. But my first thought is that it could mean your liver and gallbladder are filled with fatty deposits such as gallstones and perhaps you would benefit from doing several liver and gallbladder flushes. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?



Re: Fatty Liver - maybe...

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:37:25:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver - maybe... posted by kmd on October 20, 2000 at 13:48:44:

Hi, kmd.

A "fatty liver" is a special diagnosis that is MUCH worse than you thought might be the case.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:44:09:

In Reply to: Fatty Liver posted by Erin on October 20, 2000 at 11:57:11:

Hi, Erin.

A fatty liver is a VERY serious diagnosis. That is the final stage before terminal liver failure. There are MANY toxins in the environment that can overwhelm the liver's ability to detoxify them. Alcohol is just the best known.

Go to the liver archives to see what you can do to help your liver: antioxidents, castor oil packs & gallbladder flushes. The first 2 listed are the most important. Since we have been recently "hacked" some of the information may have been lost.

Next, you need to find a good Clinical Ecologist (see the archives and glossary.

Let us know if you have more questions, once you have read the above.

Walt



Re: Fatty Liver

Posted by R. on October 21, 2000 at 18:17:55:

In Reply to: Fatty Liver posted by Erin on October 20, 2000 at 11:57:11:

Check out www.liverdoctor.com. I've heard her talk on radio and she mentioned fatty liver. She is an Astraulian MD who has embraced a holistic approach.



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Patricia on October 21, 2000 at 18:52:11:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:44:09:

Dr Stoll, I looked through the liver archives and didnt find the answer to this question: What else, besided alcohol can cause a fatty liver? Thank you



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Patricia on October 21, 2000 at 18:52:40:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:44:09:

Dr Stoll, I looked through the liver archives and didnt find the answer to this question: What else, besided alcohol can cause a fatty liver? Thank you



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Erin... To Walt on October 21, 2000 at 19:13:06:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:44:09:

If fatty liver is such a serious diagnosis, then WHY did my doctor not make a big deal about it? NOW I AM SCARED LIKE NEVER BEFORE!



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by kmd on October 21, 2000 at 19:54:50:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Walt Stoll on October 21, 2000 at 08:44:09:

Walt,

I know Erin is now extremely scared. I did a quick Internet search for fatty liver and did not find any such alarming news there. The over-all gist of what I read was that simple fatty live needs no treatment, that it does not damage the liver, and that it tends to be associated with obesity and/or diabetes but not always. I did see some suggestions for a low-fat diet.

Aren't there differing stages of fatty liver? I have no frame of reference for this. I was shocked by your frightening reply! I'm almost certain this isn't in the archives. Please tell us what you know!



Re: Fatty Liver

Posted by
Deb on October 21, 2000 at 20:40:18:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver posted by R. on October 21, 2000 at 18:17:55:

Hi Erin,

The doctor R mentioned is Dr Sandra Cabot. She uses a combination of a liver cleansing diet and liver strengthening nutrients to cleanse the liver. This approach is more gentle than the liver cleansing flush other people advocate. Her diet is sensible and easy to follow. The only drawback I can see is that it has quite low protein intake in the middle part of the cleanse which would not suit some people. So just be careful to monitor how you feel - this also applies to any regime you decide to try.
You might also like to check out Cliff's holistic paper on the liver which is in the archives as well.

Good luck,

Deb.



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by
June on October 22, 2000 at 09:39:36:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by kmd on October 21, 2000 at 19:54:50:

Erin & everyone,

I have the impression from what I've read on fatty liver in Harrison's Principles and from what Walt says, that the degree of infiltration is what matters and that anyone with a fatty liver should take measures to improve the condition. These would include weight loss for the obese patient, removal of alcohol or OTHER TOXINS (probably why Walt recommended finding a CE), correction of any metabolic disorder and last but not least, adequate nutritional intake.

Erin, you have to take such things seriously so that they will not get worse. Exposures to toxins and deficiencies in certain nutrients can cause this as can alcohol, obesity, certain metabolic disorders and adult onset diabetes with obesity are especially noted.

Fatty liver doesn't seem to occur in the presence of perfect health so this is a chance to improve your wellness - its a signal to you that you have to do this now.

June



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Erin... to Dr. Kim and June on October 23, 2000 at 11:17:29:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by kmd on October 21, 2000 at 19:54:50:

Thanks A LOT for your info. After I received such a scare from Walt's response, I WAS SCARED BEYOND RECOGNITION. My weekend was shot as I was so depressed. I was thinking that I had some terminal illness. I did a little research over the weekend and came to the conclusions that the both of you did. Thanks for putting everything in perspective and I WILL try to reverse the condition. But, at least now I know that I am absolutely going to die from the condition.



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by kmd on October 23, 2000 at 12:21:30:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Erin... to Dr. Kim and June on October 23, 2000 at 11:17:29:

Hi Erin,

I just want to make sure you understand that I'm not Doc Kim? I noticed someone else recently made that mistake. "kmd" is just my initials though, and I'm not a doctor at all.

Glad you are feeling better!



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 23, 2000 at 12:24:06:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by June on October 22, 2000 at 09:39:36:

Thanks, June.

For a diagnosis of "fatty liver" to be made by the kind of scan he described, it HAS to be pretty far advanced.

Walt



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Kevin TO WALT on October 23, 2000 at 14:16:23:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Walt Stoll on October 23, 2000 at 12:24:06:

Walt.
I know that you are trying to help people. That is obvious. But, sometimes you have a way of scaring people to death and not explaining what you mean. That Erin did sound so upset. I do not think people are second guessing your opinion or anything. I just think the opposite. People take what you say and run with it. They trust in your opnion so much that whatever you say affects them. Like Erin... HE/SHE probably feels so isolated right now and not knowing what direction to turn to.



Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver.

Posted by Walt Stoll on October 25, 2000 at 08:58:06:

In Reply to: Re: Fatty Liver ( You must resolve this!) Archive in liver. posted by Kevin TO WALT on October 23, 2000 at 14:16:23:

Hi, Kevin.

I apreciate your concern.

However, Erin did not say that her docs told her anything about "fatty liver" other than that it showed on the scan. THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE FOR HER TO KNOW!

I know of no other way to alert her to the danger of this diagnosis than to just blurt it right out. I would appreciate your letting me know how to do it better. After all, she has the option of going to her trusted docs and "clearing it up".

OR, she can wait till her liver is gone.

Walt



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