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Bile in stool?

Posted by Lynn E. on July 10, 2001 at 15:59:13:

I had my gallbladder removed in 1996.

Lately I notice when fat intake is high that my BM has yellow liquid around it. You can't see it on the BM but when I wipe, the paper has a lot of yellow on it. The BM itself is of normal color, consistancy.

Could this be from bile?

Should I be using any enzymes since I no longer have a gallbladder?

Does anyone know if bile can cause anal burn? I have a lot of burning after a bm with the yellow on the paper.

Thank you--you all are great!!

Lynn E. (not to be confused with other Lynn's)



Re: Bile in stool?

Posted by Helping you on July 10, 2001 at 23:15:48:

In Reply to: Bile in stool? posted by Lynn E. on July 10, 2001 at 15:59:13:

I can't help but to think of a few different things going on here.

#1) you may not be absorbing your fats very well. If that
is case, taking Lecithin with each meal (up to 6x a
day) and taking lipase enzymes should help a lot. Fats
also cause the gallbladder to contract and push out
bile. If your gallbaldder is stagant or inflammed, you
will have problems. I include some suggestions for the
gallbaldder below
#2) Burning anus makes me suspect parasites, bacterial
overgrowth or some kind of altered bowel ecology.

Your liver/gallbladder may NOT be working well (??). You could try taking milk thistle (300mg per day) and a lipotropic formula that contains methionine, and choline. These cause the gallbladder to put out more bile. This will get your liver/gallbladder moving more. Alpha Lipoic acid (250mg per day), N-acetyl-cysteine (600mg 2x a day) also helps the liver detoxify.

See what Dr. stool says. I just figured I would offer this info in case he agrees with it. If you have any questions, just ask



Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You

Posted by Lynn on July 10, 2001 at 23:37:27:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool? posted by Helping you on July 10, 2001 at 23:15:48:

I had my gallbladder removed in 96 though. That is what is puzzling me. With no gallbladder, does the extra bile just "dump" into the intestines when fat is eatin and then goes right out with the bowel movement? I know there are some that get diarrhea after gallbladder removal due to excess bile but I don't have that problem. Just yellow (sun yellow and not bacterial yellow) when I wipe after a BM.

I was thinking fungi for the anal burning or bacteria as you said. Didn't think of parasites.

Is it safe to take milkthistle if you have liver problems? I don't think I do but maybe that is why the yellow is coming out???

Thanks--
Lynn E.



Re: Bile in stool?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 08:15:33:

In Reply to: Bile in stool? posted by Lynn E. on July 10, 2001 at 15:59:13:

Hi, Lynn E.

Actually it probably means not enough bile. Have you noticed that it happens during the transit time following a high fat meal?

Poorly digested fatty acids are EXTREMELY irritating to the anal mucosa.

Walt

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Re: Bile in stool?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 08:15:39:

In Reply to: Bile in stool? posted by Lynn E. on July 10, 2001 at 15:59:13:

Hi, Lynn E.

Actually it probably means not enough bile. Have you noticed that it happens during the transit time following a high fat meal?

Poorly digested fatty acids are EXTREMELY irritating to the anal mucosa.

Walt



Re: Bile in stool?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 08:58:46:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool? posted by Helping you on July 10, 2001 at 23:15:48:

Thanks, helping.

You can see from my note today that we are in agreement.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You (Archive in liver.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 09:04:17:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You posted by Lynn on July 10, 2001 at 23:37:27:

Lynn,

The only function of the gallbladder is to concentrate and store bile until you eat more fat at one time than the normal flow to handle. THEN, it contracts and forces concentrated bile into the gut.

Once the gallbladder has been removed the liver keeps on making bile but it just trickles into the gut as it is made. THEN, if you eat too much fat at one time there is not enough bile to digest it.

As you get older those reserves continue to reduce. Boosting liver function might help for a while. Making sure that you never eat much fat at one time will help more.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You (Archive in liver.)

Posted by Helping you on July 11, 2001 at 15:35:46:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You (Archive in liver.) posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 09:04:17:

If you had your gallbladder removed, it is essential that you help your liver to emulsify your fats. Take lecithin with each meal containting fats (it is a fat emulsifier). Lipase enzymes will pre-digest fats in the stomach. Since the liver continues to make bile, you may want to take a lipotropic formula to increase the liver's output. This will also lubricate the bile and help it flow more freely. Your diet should be low in fat but not fat-free.


Milk thisle (300mg per day) is ESSENTIAL when your liver is not working right. Alpha Lipoic acid will also help your liver to regenerate itself (250-300mg per day)

Take care :)



Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You

Posted by Lynn E on July 11, 2001 at 16:13:46:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You (Archive in liver.) posted by Helping you on July 11, 2001 at 15:35:46:

Thanks!!

Now, why don't doctors tell you when you have the gallbladder out that you should supplement?

I would not have had it removed had I found known I could do a cleaning--but, hindsight is always 20/20.

Thanks!
Lynn



this makes so much sense...

Posted by lisaT on July 13, 2001 at 00:50:54:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool? posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2001 at 08:15:39:

I've battled this with my dog -- haven't had a problem since I put her on digestive enzymes.....thanks for your post!

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Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 13, 2001 at 08:20:38:

In Reply to: Re: Bile in stool?/Helping You posted by Lynn E on July 11, 2001 at 16:13:46:

Hi, Lynn.

All the BIG money is in the surgery and NONE in education. Why do you think?

Namaste`

Walt

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