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Posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

Has anyone with severe MCS been cured or experienced significant improvement with EPD treatments? I was diagnosed with MCS a year ago, and was told to avoid. However, I keep getting sicker as it is impossible to avoid everything. I'm doing my best, but am desperate for some sort of treatment!



Re: MCS

Posted by S.H.A.P.E. on April 18, 2002 at 21:40:43:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

Hi Heather - MCS Is a servere case of Leaky Gut and possible Candida/Parasite problems - if you want to fill out a questionnaire I'll give you some suggestions on how you can help yourself to reverse your health problems. you can contact me at (alternative.health@verizon.net) *Shape*

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Re: MCS

Posted by MCS Scientific Review on April 18, 2002 at 23:17:00:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:


Linda, who got the scanning and the doctor’s comment from Julia Kendall, have this comment to the picture above:

Basically, these scans just reflect (the before http://home13.inet.tele.dk/mcscphdk/grafik/before.jpg and) after images of the brain - before and after exposure to perfume, that is. The second scan shows a dramatic increase of blood flow into the brain. According to Brenda, who had the scan, when this occurs, she feels agitated and often upset or angry. She said that the doctor who did the scan told her that a more common result is to see a dramatic reduction in blood flow to the brain -which results in the "brain fog" so many of us know so well. This is just more evidence that MCS takes many forms - since it is a symptom of underlying health problems, not a condition unto itself.

MCS is being mislabeled by many who think they know it all!


MCS is a neurotoxic injury involving nervous system.
Commonly defined by Claudia Miller as "TILT" Toxicity Induced Lost Tolerance.

MCS is short for Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, and is an illness caused by exposures to chemicals. MCS victims of toxic poisoning have prior exposures to AChE-inhibiting agents.
EEG abnormalities have been reported in MCS subjects (Miller, 1992) and in persons exposed to AChE inhibitors,, such as OPs (Duffy, Burchfiel, et al., 1979; Duffy and Burchfiel, 1980) - seen in patients with known exposure to widely recognized neurotoxins "including petroleum distillates and pesticides" (Simon, Hickey, et al., 1994). (Such changes include increased beta and decreased alpha activity.) Recently linked with mercury and heavy metals toxicity.

It can be diagnosed using brain SPECT scan.

1999 Diagnostic concensus:
http://www.heldref.org/html/Consensus.html

Most experienced researchers on MCS are:

Claudia Miller, MD, ( http://veterans.house.gov/hearings/schedule106/oct99/10-26-99/miller.htm ) Prof. Marc Cullen, PhD Yale University, Nicolas Ashford, Steven Rowat, PhD, ( http://www.herc.org/news/mcsarticles/rowat.htm )

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Committee on Veterans’ Affairs

Subcommittee on Benefits

United States House of Representatives

October 26, 1999

Invited Testimony by Claudia S. Miller, M.D., M.S.

Environmental and Occupational Medicine

Department of Family Practice

The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio

7703 Floyd Curl Drive, San Antonio, Texas 78229-3900

Telephone: (210) 567-7760; Fax: (210) 567-7764; Email: millercs@uthscsa.edu

I have been asked to explain how physicians who see sick Gulf War veterans can observe the same or similar symptoms and interpret them as either undiagnosed illness or diagnosed illness. Even when doctors apply monikers to these patients' illnesses, like depression, migraine headaches, asthma, irritable bowel or fibromyalgia, these monikers do not explain why these veterans are sick. Most have symptoms involving several organ systems simultaneously. For them there is no unifying diagnosis offered, no etiology specified, and no disease process clarified.

In truth, all of these veterans are undiagnosed because what we are dealing with is an entirely new mechanism of disease not covered by standard medical diagnoses -- one which presents itself symptomatically as different conditions to different specialists.

The rheumatologist observing diffuse muscle pain diagnoses myalgias.

The neurologist hearing head pain and nausea diagnoses migraine headaches.

The pulmonologist finding airway reactivity diagnoses asthma.

The psychiatrist seeing chronic malaise diagnoses depression.

The gastroenterologist noting GI complaints diagnoses irritable bowel syndrome.

Some private practitioners diagnose multiple chemical sensitivity, or MCS, which is not a diagnosis in itself, but rather just another manifestation of the underlying disease process.

So what is at the core of this myriad of symptoms that has come to be called “Gulf War Syndrome?” What is the underlying disease process? The key is in the new-onset intolerances these people share.

Over the past six years, I have served as a consultant to the VA's referral center for Gulf War veterans in Houston. The vast majority of the veterans there reported multiple new intolerances since the War. Among the first 59 patients, 78% reported new-onset chemical intolerances; 40% experienced adverse reactions to medications; 78% described new food intolerances; 66% reported that even a can of beer made them feel ill; 25 percent became ill after drinking caffeinated beverages; and 74 percent of smokers felt sick if they smoked an extra cigarette or borrowed someone else's stronger brand. More than half reported new intolerances in all three categories -- chemical inhalants, foods, and drugs or food/drug combinations.

One mechanic said that before the Gulf War his idea of the perfect perfume was WD-40. Since the war, WD-40 and a host of other chemicals make him feel ill. Many veterans no longer fill their own gas tanks because the gasoline vapors make them "spacy" or sick. Some won't drive because they become disoriented in traffic and they fear causing an accident. Or they can't find their cars, forget where they are going or get lost in once familiar areas. One VA study found excess motor vehicle deaths among Gulf veterans and interpreted this as possible increased risk-taking behavior (Kang and Bullmann, 1996). What the veterans tell me is that they get confused, go off the road, mistake the accelerator for the brake, and have trouble judging stopping distances when they are exposed to gasoline, diesel exhaust, or freshly tarred roads.

Researchers at the Robert Wood Johnson Medical School in New Jersey and at the University of Arizona have noted similar multi-system symptoms and intolerances to common chemicals, foods, and drugs among the veterans (Fiedler et al, 1996; Bell et al, 1998). And a CDC study found that ill Gulf War veterans reported more chemical intolerances than healthy veterans (Fukuda et al, 1998).

These studies are confounded by a phenomenon called "masking," which occurs when people become intolerant to many different things (Miller and Prihoda, 1999a). As they go through a day, symptoms triggered by fragrances, hairspray, vehicle exhaust, foods and medications pile up so they feel sick most of the time. No one cause can be isolated because there's too much background noise, and patients often underestimate the number of exposures that affect them.

This problem is not altogether new. German researchers described similar intolerances in chemical weapons workers after World War II (Spiegelberg, 1961). Nearly 20 percent of agricultural workers on a California registry for organophosphate pesticide poisoning (Tabershaw and Cooper, 1966) reported that even a "whiff" of pesticide made them sick with symptoms like those of the Gulf War veterans, as did dozens of government workers a decade ago, after the EPA headquarters became a "sick building" following remodeling (EPA, 1989). Similar outbreaks of chemical intolerances have been reported in more than a dozen countries (Ashford et al, 1995).

These observations suggest that we may indeed be dealing with an entirely new mechanism for disease, one which has been referred to with the acronym “TILT”, or "Toxicant-induced Loss of Tolerance" (Miller, 1996, 1997, 1999). Any one toxicant appears capable of initiating this process. TILT involves two steps, initiation and triggering (Ashford and Miller, 1998): (1) First, a single acute or multiple low-level exposures to a pesticide, solvent or other chemical causes loss of tolerance in a subset of those exposed; (2) Thereafter very low levels of common substances can trigger symptoms -- not only chemicals, but various foods, medications, alcoholic beverages and caffeine. Symptoms involve several organ systems. These intolerances are the hallmark of TILT, just as fever is the hallmark symptom of infectious diseases.

Over the past several years, the finger has been pointed at a number of potential causes for Gulf War Syndrome -- everything from the oil shroud to pesticides, vaccinations, and pyridostigmine bromide. What set off the Gulf War Veterans? The answer is "all of the above." Exposure to any one or any combination of these toxicants may, in fact, be capable of causing a general breakdown in tolerance that can result in a plethora of beguiling symptoms.

We do not know exactly how this breakdown in tolerance occurs. We do know that rats with nervous systems sensitive to organophosphate pesticides are also intolerant of diverse drugs and have increased gut permeability which in humans is associated with food intolerance (Overstreet et al, 1996). This suggests the breakdown might involve the cholinergic nervous system, which regulates processes throughout the body.

How can these people be helped? No one knows -- yet. The biggest obstacle is the symptoms themselves, which serve as red herrings, diverting attention away from the central problem. What we do know is that Gulf War veterans, who have come to recognize what sets them off and then avoid these triggers, tend to improve. We need to apply this understanding to the diagnosis and treatment of other such veterans.

The first thing that needs to be done is to set up unmasking studies in which sick Gulf War veterans can be isolated from the exposures that are setting them off. This can be achieved by putting them in a special environmentally controlled hospital unit (Miller, 1997; Miller et al, 1997). Once we get them to baseline, we can reintroduce things like caffeine, perfumes, various foods, etc., and identify some of the things that cause their flare-ups. With avoidance, it is hoped that they, too, can improve. This combined diagnostic-therapeutic approach would eliminate much of the confusion that is the focus of this hearing.

There is no simple answer to Gulf War illness. No single toxicant is likely to have caused it. But if we concentrate less on the original toxicants and more on the underlying disease mechanism, I believe we can make progress in understanding why these people are sick and what we can do to help them.

REFERENCES

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) (1994). Proceedings of the Conference on low level exposure to chemicals and neurobiologic sensitivity. Tox. Ind. Health 10(4/5):25.

Ashford, N., Heinzow, B., Lütjen, K., Marouli, C., M¸lhave, L., Mönch, B., Papadopoulos, S., Rest, K., Rosdahl, D., Siskos, P., and Velonakis, E. (1995). “Chemical sensitivity in Selected European Countries: An Exploratory Study.” Ergonomia Ltd., Athens, Greece.

Ashford, N., and Miller, C. (1998). Chemical Exposures: Low Levels and High Stakes. New York, Wiley & Sons.

Bell, I., Walsh, M., Gross, a., Gersmeyer, j., schwartz, g., and kanof, P. (1997). “Cognitive Dysfunction and Disability in Geriatric Veterans with Self-Reported Intolerance to Environmental Chemicals.” J. Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 3(3):15- 42.

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) (1989). Report to Congress on Indoor Air Quality, Volume II, Assessment and Control of Indoor Air Pollution.

Fiedler, N., Kipen, H., Natelson, B., and Ottenweller, J. (1996). “Chemical Sensitivities and the Gulf War: Department of Veterans Affairs Research Center in Basic and Clinical Science Studies of Environmental Hazards.” Regulatory Tox. Pharmacol. 24: S129-S138.

Fukuda, K., Nisenbaum, R., Stewart, G., thompson, W., robin, L., Washko, R., Noah, D., Barrett, D., Randall, B., Herwaldt, B., Mawle, A., and Reeves, W. (1998). “Chronic multi-system illness affecting Air Force veterans of the Gulf War.” JAMA 280: 981-988.

kang, H., and bullman, T. (1996). “Mortality among U.S. Veterans of the Persian Gulf War.” New Engl. J. Med. 335(2a):1498-1504.

Miller, C. (1996). “Chemical Sensitivity: Symptom, Syndrome or Mechanism for Disease?” Tox. 11: 69-86.

Miller, C. (1997). “Toxicant-Induced Loss of Tolerance—An Emerging Theory of Disease?” Environ. Health Perspect. 105 (Suppl. 2): 445-453.

Miller, C. (1999). “Are We on the Threshold of a New Theory of Disease? Toxicant-induced Loss of Tolerance and its Relationship to Addiction and Abdiction” Tox. Ind. Health. 15:284-294.

Miller, C., and Prihoda, T. (1999a). “A Controlled Comparison of Symptoms and Chemical Intolerances Reported by Gulf War Veterans, Implant Recipients and Persons with Multiple Chemical Sensitivity.” Tox. Ind. Health 15:386-397.

Miller, C., and Prihoda, T. (1999b). “The Environmental Exposure and Sensitivity Inventory (EESI): A Standardized approach for measuring Chemical Intolerances for Research and Clinical Applications.” Tox. Ind. Health 15:370-385.

Miller, C., Ashford, N., Doty, R., Lamielle, M., Otto, D., Rahill, A., and Wallace, L. (1997). “Empirical Approaches for the Investigation of Toxicant-Induced Loss of Tolerance.” Environ. Health Perspect. 105 (Suppl. 2): 515-519.

Overstreet, D., Miller, C., Janowsky, D., and Russell, R. (1996). “Potential Animal Model of Multiple Chemical Sensitivity with Cholinergic Supersensitivity.” Tox. 111: 119-134.

Spiegelberg, V. (1961). “Psychopathologisch-neurologische Schâden nach Einwirkung Synthetischer Gifte.” In Wehrdienst und Gesundeir, Vol. III. Darmstadt: Wehr und Wissen Verlagsgessellshaft (1961).

Tabershaw, I., and Cooper, C. (1966). “Sequelae of Acute Organic Phosphate Poisoning” J. Occup. Med. 8:5-20.

BIOSKETCH

Claudia S. Miller, M.D., M.S., is an Associate Professor in Environmental and Occupational Medicine in the Department of Family Practice of the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio. Board-certified in Allergy/Immunology and Internal Medicine, she holds a Master’s degree in Public Health/Environmental Health. Her research interests include the health effects of low level chemical exposures, pesticides, indoor air pollution, and Gulf War veterans’ illnesses. Dr. Miller has held appointments to several federal advisory committees, including the National Advisory Committee on Occupational Safety and Health, the National Toxicology Program Board of Scientific Counselors, and the Department of Veterans Affairs Persian Gulf Expert Scientific Advisory Committee. She is co-author of the WHO-award-winning New Jersey Report on Chemical Sensitivity and a professionally acclaimed book, Chemical Exposures: Low Levels and High Stakes.





Re: MCS

Posted by Vince F on April 19, 2002 at 00:47:11:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

I had severe MCS and have improved a lot but not completely
cured though I don't react as bad but then I get away from
anything that used to cause symptoms. It takes some
learning as to what affects you and avoiding them and
finding things that aren't as much of a problem, like
perfumes in soaps and detergents. Any strong smell can
cause a problem. Fresh air or a charcoal mask can help.

Ingesting chems like in tooth pastes can cause problems.
I had problems with sodium flouride in them though, sodium
Mono flouride ones weren't bad. Chlorine in tap water which
can be stronger at times of heavier treatment can cause
problems. In my case a general physical weakness seems to
be involved but does the sensitivity cause the weakness or
the weakness, the sensitivity, isn't clear.

VF



Re: MCS heres how i get through it with a high quality of life/normal life

Posted by leon cavallo on April 19, 2002 at 02:54:59:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

hi
MCS is a severe issue for me. however, i am roughly 75% over it. (and i have not had my metal fillings out!)

high tech analysis of acute variables and figures and specifics of biochemistry are lovely (i studied chemistry myself) but what this actually means to me is that i have a real life again. gone are the days of being able to do nothing, see no one and go no where.

no one type of treatment by itself will do it.
fundamentally how i did it :

(1) (a)avoid everything chemical. its not impossible. it is easy. the only challenging part is making the switch. anyone who says that they can do well just by avoiding certain things either does not comprehend the problem or has only CERTAIN sensitivities. TOTAL LOAD is the kep concept to know. total load means all chemicals contribute to the problem.
(b) touch no metals ! avoid physical contact with all metals. use no silverware especially ! wood, glass, ceramin, STURDY opaque plastic!

(2) eat perfectly. in my case i went macrobiotic, for its dynamic healing properties. and it leads me to improvement constantly.

(3) S/R

(4) on-going, consistent, exercise

(5) defeat candida and parasites and heal the gut.

(6) use any and all non-chemical therapies that stimulate the even flow of cerebral spinal fluid to the brian and stimulate circulation in general...chinese manual medicine/tuina, western manual medicine/chiropractic, cranial-sacral therapy, rolfing, acupuncture, etc. i am fortunate to have use of them all!

(7) constantly improve digestion.

(8) create a new point of view/attitude. this happens naturally, but actively looking at things differently helps so much. ayur veda taught me that you can do whatever you want, including simply turining off symptoms with your mind. i am now about the most positive, laughing, happy person i know.

some sub-sets of the bigger approaches were parasite killing BEYOND the gut, liver cleansing, kidney flushing, skin brushing, pure water colonics, and more. GET ALL THE ORGANS OF ELIMINATION FLOWING FREELY.

i thought about borrowing the thousands of $$$ to go to one of the state of the art clinics to get "over" MCS, but didnt. i have spent endless time and effort reading and researching, up to and including studying the absolute best of "medical knowledge" for doctors on MCS (william J rea's definitive manuals). i famialirized myself with the approach to mcs of western medicine, dentistry, naturopathy, chinese medicine, ayur veda and more. i believe i have found better ways for myself...much more comprehensive and holistic.

many argue about where it comes from or what it is. certainly digestion is a fundamental variable. leaky gut has everything to do with it. is it only leaky gut ? absolutely not. is it only injury to the nervous system and liver ? absolutley not. is it only the result of one massive over-exposure ? CERTAINLY absolutely not. very few people know what it's like to feel trapped by symtoms that just will not release you. everyone tells you to take something. but if you do take anything, you get sicker !! what people "give you" is part of the problem. every chemical you continue to expose yourself to is another day farther into the future you put off your recovery.
steer clear of anyone who wants to give you things to take when you have real MCS.

with mcs, no matter what your point of view there are several givens. as mentionned, TOTAL LOAD is one important one-- everything impure is holding you down. another is MASKING, which means that even though you perceive no reactions to certain things, your body can be strongly impaired by those agents (such as nickel, a ubiquitous metal). a third given about MCS is that THE SICK GET SICKER. until you are able to get your arms around the entire breadth of detox necessary, you will keep getting sicker, because of the fourth given of MCS, the SPREADING PHENOMENON. this basically means that because your body has only a limited amount of resources, there is competition for those resources between one normal chemical handling process and all the rest in your body. if today osmols of perfumes and aldehydes of carpet are probelsm for you, then soon phenols of rubbery-plastic and chloro's of hard plastics will become problems also, because both those detox engines are running on the same gas.

this sounds bad, but knowing this bad news brings benefits. until you come to learn the proportions of the problem, you will shy away from doing the wide spread detox procedures that WILL ABSOLUTLEY CERTAINLY make you better.

what was my saving bible in the beginning was Dr Sherry roger's TIRED OR TOXIC: A BLUEPRINT FOR HEALTH book. (rogers was a protge of THE doctor in this field, dr rea.) read her book and know that you have to take toxins out of your home (bedroom most importantly), out of your diet, and out of your personal body products. (actually, i have gone beyond her levels of detox, to even higher levels of wellness.) dr rogers will lead you through it step by step.

dont be discouraged by all this. its the turning point ! share this info with people around you.

break on through to the other side !




Re: Yes, you can get MCS under control

Posted by Susan in Fl on April 19, 2002 at 10:12:10:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

As far as MCS goes, you can get better. I am about 80% over it; in fact, I have gotten it so much under control that I can be in certain situations that used to cause me to react, that I don't.

Leon has really nailed it. This is what has also helped me:
1. Daily use of an infrared sauna that I own, and I purchased for $1800. Until I could get the high levels of nickel, mercury, etc. out of my system, I couldn't get the MCS under control. Now, after two years of use, I only have to use it once or twice a week. When I was at my sickest, I could only sweat on my stomach. The healthier I got (thru' the sauna), the more I sweated. I now sweat from head to toe, and my sweat no longer smells at all.
2. Daily use of a chi machine that gets the lymph going and promotes relaxation. There's alot of toxins in lymph and if you can get it going and out of your system, that's a good thing. That machine is worth its weight in gold, and it was about $170.
3. Periodic juice fasting to further cleanse your body.
4. And as Leon says, avoiding things that get you reacting. Perfumes, which I used to bathe in, were a big offender for me, and I quit using them. I also found that the makeup was a big no no, and I started using a solvent-free makeup line called Real Purity, which I don't react to, and that really helped. I also changed to completely solvent-free laundry detergant and dishwasher detergant. My deodorant is also a holistic formula which I don't react to (Real Purity). All of thiese things really made a difference. And you really need to think about every product that you use on your skin and in your house and how it's affecting you.
5. Another big one for me was replacing my biggest mercury filling, which had been cracked for two years and had gotten so bad that part of the tooth was hanging in the socket. Once I got that filling removed/replaced and that mercury was no longer seeping, that helped my mcs by approx. 30%. Of course, I was in my sauna constantly, getting that mercury out. However, I cannot stress enough that your body has to be strong enough to handle the mercury removal process before you do it. You've got to get your liver functioning better before you attempt that. I am scheduled for two more fillings to be removed/replaced in May. And honestly, I don't think mercury is the biggest offender. I think you've got to detox your body too before you attempt messing with your fillings.
6. Taking milk thistle several times a day to strengthen my liver and taking digestive enzymes to help my food digest.
Before I started doing all these things, I reacted to everything: water coming out of the faucet, gasoline, Kmart garden center, cologne, food, 90% of the supplement/vitamins I couldn't take, constant bladder pain, all the cleaners in my house, the plugins that I used in my house, hairspray, makeup, body lotions, couldn't eat hardly any foods, etc. Now, after two years of using my sauna and cleaning up my life, I am now eating everything again, and I can take about 80% of the supplements now (that I used to react to),so there is hope, and you can get better. I can also run around Kmart with no problems now.

Very important--drink at least two-three litres of water (no chlorine) every day to get all the toxins flushed out of your system.



Re: MCS (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 19, 2002 at 13:33:57:

In Reply to: Re: MCS posted by MCS Scientific Review on April 18, 2002 at 23:17:00:

Thanks, MCS.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Yes, you can get MCS under control

Posted by Answer on April 19, 2002 at 14:23:32:

In Reply to: Re: Yes, you can get MCS under control posted by Susan in Fl on April 19, 2002 at 10:12:10:

Linda, who got the scanning and the doctor’s comment from Julia Kendall, have this comment to the picture above before exposurem as a baseline before exposure:

(See http://home13.inet.tele.dk/mcscphdk/grafik/after.jpg exposure to Calvin Kleins perfume "ESCAPE".)

The only way to control MCS is to avoid ANY and ALL exposures. Control is not at all easy.

The ultimate medical condition is MEDICAL STABILIZATION, and it depend on severity of the injury.

The "control" depends on severity of the injury on case by case and on the STAGE of the injury.

Once the injury is very severe there is NO control, and MCS is demonstrated by like constant fever ("metal fever") similar to influenza like syndrome, there is NO way to control it.

MCS is not a medical diagnosis, it is constellations of signs and symptoms known as SYNDROME.

One of the mandatory conditions of getting control of MCS one MUST be mercury free.

The problem is that many people improperly label signs and symptoms of other medical conditions with MCS and than believe that they do have MCS.

This is due to the fact that MCS does not have well defined


Consensus Criteria for MCS

The following consensus criteria for the diagnosis of MCS were gleaned from the study by Nethercott et al.(14) (funded in part by grants from US NIOSH and US NIEHS):


1. “The symptoms are reproducible with [repeated chemical] exposure.”

2. “The condition is chronic.”

3. “Low levels of exposure [lower than previously or commonly tolerated] result in manifestations of the syndrome.”

4. “The symptoms improve or resolve when the incitants are removed.”

5. “Responses occur to multiple chemically unrelated substances.”

6. [Added in 1999]: Symptoms involve multiple organ systems.

Nethercott JR, Davidoff LL, Curbow B, et al. Multiple chemical sensitivities syndrome: toward a working case definition. Arch Environ Health 1993; 48:19–26.

Ashford NA, Miller CS. Chemical Exposures: Low Levels and High Stakes (2nd ed). New York: John Wiley, 1998.


See article that was published in the May/June 1999 issue of Archives of Environmental Health, Vol. 54, No. 3, pp. 147–149.

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Leon, amazing Post...

Posted by
bglick on April 19, 2002 at 18:07:14:

In Reply to: Re: MCS heres how i get through it with a high quality of life/normal life posted by leon cavallo on April 19, 2002 at 02:54:59:

Leon, very nice of you to share all your experiences with us. Your R&D has certainly paid off....and unfortunately there is very few alternatives to healing. This condition will never be adapted by the medical community as there will never be a single pill to take for a cure or a fancy machine that we can receive treatments with.

I am in the early stages of curing myself, and I do beleive, as you mention, rarely if ever does one event in our life cause this condition. It is clearly a case of being overburdened for too long, both by enviromental toxins and from toxins we create internaly from the excrement of harmful bacteria and yeasts...

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Re: MCS

Posted by
bglick on April 19, 2002 at 18:15:37:

In Reply to: Re: MCS posted by Vince F on April 19, 2002 at 00:47:11:

Vince, I think you raise some good points. I just learned that chlorine in drinking water is a major problem with me. I should have suspected this as chlorine in pools can clobber me for days straight.

I think the weakness is a result of offending chemicals and the bodies reaction to such. For example, when I isolate myself from the world, and live in my motorhome in the middle of the woods, drink distilled water and eat only fruits and vegetables, use only non chemcial soaps and shampoos and toothpaste.... I can get almost 100% releif. But then when I start introducing culprits into my life, such as radio frequency from cell phones, cell towers, electro magnetic fields, chemicals in the air, chemicals in food, etc.... I slowly start feeling poor again. In addtion, we are burdened by a large amount of harmful bacteria and yeast which all excrement poisions in our blood, which also is, in my opinion, one of the main reasons we have the problems to begin with - auto intoxication.


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Re: MCS

Posted by
Cheezi on April 21, 2002 at 00:49:43:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

Hi, Heather.

I know a gal named Joan (40ish) who got chemical poisoning at work. Some sort of spill a few years ago. She's feeling much better now and working again; I'm sure she did it naturally because her doctor told her to just rest and take the drugs he prescribed. She spent a lot of time on the couch that way. E-mail me and I'll get in touch with her.

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Re: MCS heres how i get through it with a high quality of life/normal life

Posted by Heather on April 27, 2002 at 22:56:34:

In Reply to: Re: MCS heres how i get through it with a high quality of life/normal life posted by leon cavallo on April 19, 2002 at 02:54:59:

Thanks so much Leon.

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Re: MCS

Posted by Heather on April 27, 2002 at 22:59:37:

In Reply to: MCS posted by Heather on April 18, 2002 at 21:24:16:

Thanks everyone- gave me some really good insights.
I really appreciate it. The food is one area where I have really resisted change.

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