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Try to keep an open mind here please... I have 18
teflon balls inserted under the skin just below my
collarbones. They are there simply for esthetic
reasons, and look rather like an internal necklace. I've
had them 2 years now and some encapsulation has
developed which keeps the rows in place.
I have heard there may be some risk to having Teflon in
the body permanently. How serious are the risks,
considering that they are encapsulated and do not rub
on bone or each other. Would the solid sculptable
flexible silicone approved for implants like chin and
cheekbone be a safer option. It would then be one
piece instead of separate balls and is flexible not rigid
like teflon.
In Reply to: Teflon Implants posted by Pierre on June 06, 2002 at 02:15:34:
I don't get it. How is it aesthetic? Could you post a picture?
BTW, if it is just aesthetic, why would you even risk your health one bit just for looks? I am not being sarcastic or flaming and I won't attack you for your answer. I really want to know what thoughts lead you to do this.
In Reply to: Re: Teflon Implants posted by Donna E. on June 06, 2002 at 13:15:27:
What leads people to pierce their tongues, nipples, belly buttons, eyebrows, even penises? and lots of other body parts that are too painful to even think about.
Although, I must admit, an internal necklace is a new one on me. I'd love to see a picture.
In Reply to: Teflon Implants posted by Pierre on June 06, 2002 at 02:15:34:
Dear Pierre,
Aesthetic or not, you have to decide what is best for your body and for your immune system. I do not know much about teflon implants, but I do know quite a bit about silicone implants.
Before I go any further, however, let me state that the mere fact that your body has begun to encapsulate these teflon balls would indicate that these foreign invaders have evoked an autoimmune response from your body. This constant stimulation of the immune system could lead to problems that I doubt you would consider worth the risk of having this unusual internal necklace.
Silicone is composed of over 38 toxic chemicals and at least 6 heavy metals, also known to be hazardous to the body, such as platinum, aluminum, tin, etc.
Some of the chemicals found in silicone which you may be familiar with, include: formaldehyde, polyvinyl chloride, urethane, acetone, freon, benzene, etc.
I know you are aware of the news that has been circulating about silicone gel breast implants and saline-filled silicone breast implants, over the past several years.
What you may not be aware of is that there are other implants that use a firmer type of silicone and are used for such things as chin and cheek reconstruction. There are even buttock, calf, and pectoral implants for men that use this 'firmer' silicone. This silicone becomes under the body's attack just like the gel or the shells from breast implants. Over time, it breaks the silicone down from these firmer implants and causes them to crack, slough and splinter off, and migrate away from their orignal site of implantation.
The reports of women becoming ill from breast implants are quite numerous and there is ample material available that could provide you with a clearer picture of what silicone does to the body when it is implanted. My web site listed below has a web page concerning the chemical composition of silicone which you may wish to take a look at.
I shudder to think of what teflon ball implants will do to your body over time. I have not heard of any studies on this, but, I haven't researched it, either. I do not know of any foreign material that is safe to implant within the body, and which has long-term studies to back up any safety claims.
I am guessing that you are young...under forty, and that you should have a long life ahead of you. You really need to think twice about what you are doing now to affect your body and your health for your future.
It would really be ashame if this necklace caused you to have irrepairable health damage that plagued you throughout your latter years.
I also wonder what damage these teflon balls are causing to the underlying muscles, bone, and other connective tissue structures. The fibrous scar tissue that has encapsulated them is not much of a protective barrier.
Pierre...is it really worth it?
I ask that God bless you and watch over you, but mostly, i ask that he grant you wisdom in making the decisions concerning your future health, especially in regard to your 'internal necklace."
Blessings always,
Lany
In Reply to: Teflon Implants posted by Pierre on June 06, 2002 at 02:15:34:
Lany,
Dr. Mercola on Teflon Frying Pans.
Teflon Poisoning - For The Birds.
Teflon and Health
So-called surgical steel probably has the longest life free from attack from the body, as an
implantable substance in the body.
Pierre & Everyone else, links to general information regarding Teflon.
I don't see an immediate cause for alarm, however 2 possible risk scenarios do come to
mind. The first involves the use of "radiant heaters" which do not heat the air. These heater
heat surrounding items in a room on on your person as a way of providing heat. The items then heated
provide warmth. Your teflon balls are heat sinks "attracting" heat. This may
or may not be a problem depending on whether or not you are trying to keep warm or cool.
The second scenario has to do with cracking and splintering of teflon. Any trauma suffered
could crack the teflon and teflon isn't forever. When it starts to age, it WILL crack.
Lany is correct. There is no foreign substance that the body welcomes without reservation.
Lightwalking,
Gregory
In Reply to: Re: Teflon - General Information posted by Gregory on June 07, 2002 at 04:46:39:
I have a radiant heater,that I use regularly in the winter. so are you saying that it is bad for my health in general and I should not use it?
In Reply to: Re: Teflon Implants posted by Lany on June 07, 2002 at 04:07:11:
Hi, Walt
Board members have advised some good information, however, I've been trying to obtain information on the effects of Titanium Alloe (spl?)on a human body.
Yes, I'm gong to contact my orthopedice, however, he advised my hip joing has not been recalled since it's bi-polar titanium alloe. Do have periodic pain from the hip and my orthopedic has advised my body's not tolerating the hip very well after three years.
In Reply to: Re: Teflon - General Information posted by Missy on June 07, 2002 at 05:33:42:
In Reply to: Teflon Implants posted by Pierre on June 06, 2002 at 02:15:34:
NMI
In Reply to: Re: Teflon - General Information posted by Gregory on June 07, 2002 at 04:46:39:
Gregory:
I like the blue letters, but I can't read the green.
Pam
In Reply to: Re: Teflon - General Information posted by Gregory on June 07, 2002 at 04:46:39:
Lany,
Dr. Mercola on Teflon Frying Pans.
Teflon Poisoning - For The Birds.
Teflon and Health
So-called surgical steel probably has the longest life free from attack from the body, as an
implantable substance in the body.
Pierre & Everyone else, links to general information regarding Teflon.
I don't see an immediate cause for alarm, however 2 possible risk scenarios do come to
mind. The first involves the use of "radiant heaters" which do not heat the air. These heater
heat surrounding items in a room on on your person as a way of providing heat. The items then heated
provide warmth. Your teflon balls are heat sinks "attracting" heat. This may
or may not be a problem depending on whether or not you are trying to keep warm or cool.
The second scenario has to do with cracking and splintering of teflon. Any trauma suffered
could crack the teflon and teflon isn't forever. When it starts to age, it WILL crack.
Lany is correct. There is no foreign substance that the body welcomes without reservation.
Lightwalking,
Gregory
In Reply to: Re: Teflon Implants posted by Carol on June 06, 2002 at 21:10:00:
I am a professional piercer and "body modifier" and
also someone interested in natural medicine. People
either get it or they don't. It is a hyperdiversified
culture's technologically hybridized response to the
traditional (culturally sanctioned) practices of tattoo,
piercing, scar creation, pearling (implants), and various
body sculpting. Risks are minimal with the right
research. We see a lot of risk taking in body
modification culture at large - I am an exception. I do
my best to balance the natural drive to modify and my
knowledge of wellness. Happy to share more with
anyone interested. How do I post photos?
In Reply to: Re: Teflon Implants posted by Pierre on June 08, 2002 at 03:21:59:
tattoo, piercing, scar creation, pearling (implants), and various body sculpting are not "culturally sanctioned." They are subculture.
"hyperdiversified culture's technologically hybridized response..."
How about putting that in English Pierre?
Otherwise one would think you are deliberately obfusicating for the purpose of defending a questionable
practice.
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