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DENTAL AMALGAM, MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, CHRONIC FATIGUE, FIBROMYALGIA

Posted by ARTUR WALTZ on September 02, 1998 at 18:49:35:

I am interested with the corelation between toxic, or septic shock, neurotoxicity, peripheral neuropathy, and the suppressed nerves conductivity, interventicular conductivity with irregullar ST-T wave.
The medical references provide that in case of toxic exposure EKG will demonstrate changes and suppression of
R-S wave.
Such symptoms of toxic effect were documented in case of treatment for methamoglobulinemia.
The recent finding disclose that toxic exposure results in increased acidity of blood, and consequent symptoms of induced by acidity "panic disorder" in people with multiple chemical sensitivity. Acidity is associated with consequent leeching of dental amalgam, causing chronic accute toxic and neurotoxic symptoms.
There is mounting evidence that chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia and multiople chemical sensitivity is an inflammation by bacterial or fungal toxin, and is hypersensitive neurotransmitters as the result of chronic inflamation by such toxic substances.
Can you please explain the corelation between neurotoxicity, and and interventicular defect such as ST T wave, R S wave, and peripheral neuropathy.




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Re: DENTAL AMALGAM, MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, CHRONIC FATIGUE, FIBROMYALGIA

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 03, 1998 at 09:49:03:

In Reply to: DENTAL AMALGAM, MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, CHRONIC FATIGUE, FIBROMYALGIA posted by ARTUR WALTZ on September 02, 1998 at 18:49:35:

Dear Artur,

Read a copy of Dr Pelletier's classic: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" and you will understand how ALL of this is interconnected. THEN, if you are interested in addressing it all at the same time (the most efficient way of regaining your wellness), get a copy of my book (link on this page).

Then, if you have more questions, write again.

At this stage I can sense your confusion trying to juggle all of these seemingly unconnected conditions. THEY ARE NOT UNCONNECTED! What you need right now is not MORE thinking but a different WAY of thinking.

As you get well, I hope you will take the time to share your experiences with the rest of the BB paricipants.

Walt



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Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Phyllis A. on September 03, 1998 at 12:54:43:

In Reply to: Re: DENTAL AMALGAM, MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY, CHRONIC FATIGUE, FIBROMYALGIA posted by Walt Stoll on September 03, 1998 at 09:49:03:

If dental fillings are causing someone a lot of mercury poisoning illness, what would this do during the elimination diet? I know I have major food allergies, but I'm wondering if the illness being caused by the dental fillings would be a big interference in the elimination and re-introducing foods. If the poisoning is causing flare-ups of fibromyalgia, etc., will I be able to tell when it is the foods, etc.?


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Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Robert McFerran on September 03, 1998 at 13:43:04:

In Reply to: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Phyllis A. on September 03, 1998 at 12:54:43:

Phyllis ,

ALL of the folks that I know that have run the elimination diet also have mercury amalgams in their mouths. Therefore I believe that you would see some differences if you ran the elimination diet and subsequently shifted to the appropriate diet for your inherited metabolism.

Of course having your amalgams out after you've done all the above could even make MORE of an improvement.

I went to a mercury free dentist and found that amalgam removal would run me approximately $5,000 (I've got a lot of fillings). I will have them removed when I have the money. Running the elimination diet costs nothing.

Bob


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Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Phyllis A. on September 03, 1998 at 16:54:02:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Robert McFerran on September 03, 1998 at 13:43:04:


I guess I wasn't very clear with how I put all of that. I assumed that most everyone that had done the E-diet would have mercury amalgams.

I, too, have a lot of fillings and hope to have them removed in the future when "my ship comes in" or my house sells (whichever comes first). First two things on my list of "wants" are 1) 10 Rolfing Sessions, & 2) Filling Removals (man, my way of thinking has really changed.....I would bet that 1 year ago these two things would NOT have been on any "desire list" of mine.)

Long before I started hearing of the "scare" about mercury amalgams, I suspected something was going on with me because of it. I have a lot of fillings and crowns, and reason to believe that many of my symptoms could be due to this. I'm now reading and educating myself on the subject. I'm a "bracer", with leaky gut, candidas, fibromyalgia, arthritis, tinnitus....you name it, I probably have it. I know I have food allergies and would like to run the E-diet and go to the Agriculturist diet.

What I guess I'm wondering about is if the mercury amalgams are causing more of my symptoms, won't this continue while I'm eliminating and introducing foods back in? I'm sure I will feel better by improving the diet, but wouldn't the other continue to cause the same symptoms? Maybe it will help me to know how much of the problem relates to mercury amalgams. Then again, maybe my wellness program will "cure" me and I can keep the fillings (and all the money the removal would have cost :o).

I guess another way to ask is..."if I get the skilled relaxation down pat, eat the right foods, and exercise regularly.....can the mercury poisoning still keep me deathly ill? Or can my wellness program defeat the poisoning even if it is still there?"




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Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Robert McFerran on September 03, 1998 at 21:17:40:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Phyllis A. on September 03, 1998 at 16:54:02:

Phyllis,

Dr. Stoll does a GREAT job in his boook answering this question.

As you know some folks have amalgams, eat the wrong foods, smoke, drink to excess, and basically do all the WRONG things -- they they are healthier (for now) than you and me.

This person must be born with more immunological reserves than the average person. Chemical exposures, electromagnetic exposure, amalgam exposure etc. all apply stress to our physiology -- and this reduces our immunological reserves. As you lose these reserves you will start developing warning signs in the form of various symptoms. Left unattended sooner or later you will exhaust all of your reserves and enter a 'disease' state.

So we should take action to INCREASE our immunological reserves. Skilled relaxation does it. Eating right does it. Fresh air does it. Exercise does it. Skilled relaxaton does it. Amalgam removal does it. Drinking pure water does it.

Some will need to do ALL these things to get well. Some will need to do only one or two of them to maintain health. The things that have the MOST impact might be different for different people. Some might do all these things and still not regain their health. I guess there are no guarantees....

Bob



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Geeeez Robert, your last 2 sentences there didn't leave me feeling too great! (NMI)

Posted by PeggyH on September 04, 1998 at 04:34:16:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Robert McFerran on September 03, 1998 at 21:17:40:






Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 04, 1998 at 10:46:42:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Robert McFerran on September 03, 1998 at 21:17:40:

Thanks, Bob.

I couldn't have said it better myself so I won't try!

Namaste` Walt




Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Peter Wray on September 04, 1998 at 13:06:30:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Phyllis A. on September 03, 1998 at 16:54:02:

Phyllis,
I'm curious about why you suspect your amalgam fillings and crowns. I can certainly understand such suspicions based on what I have read and head, but have you had specific symptoms or tests done that have fueled your suspicions? I ask because my wife seems to have similar symptoms and her alternative doc. feels that the fillings may be a big part of this.

Thanks

Peter



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Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 05, 1998 at 10:13:02:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Peter Wray on September 04, 1998 at 13:06:30:

Dear Peter,

There are ways (for an advanced dentist) to test for whether the amalgams are a significant stressor to the system. Those tests should be done BEFORE going to the expense & stress of removing amalgams.

Walt




Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Phyllis A. on September 08, 1998 at 10:48:54:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Peter Wray on September 04, 1998 at 13:06:30:

Sorry to be so long in responding.....I've been away for the weekend.

Right now it is just suspicion. Looking back at the history it makes sense. Fourteen years ago I changed dentist and she totally removed and replaced all previous dental work, in addition to adding more fillings and crowns to what was already there. This replacement was not to remove amalgams to something safer, but to tear it all out and put new fillings and crowns in (more $'s in the her purse). Unaware of the dangers in removing fillings (I even remember swallowing some of the filling material that had been drilled out), I now know the dentist did not use the precautions needed.

Other than a few front teeth, the rest of my teeth are full of metal. After one of the "removal/replacement sessions", I immediately had problems with severe ear ringing noises (and I mean loud noise that never ever stops). When I later mentioned it to the dentist, she wrote it off as something else causing it.....dental work doesn't. I felt otherwise, but just dropped it and continue to survive with it.

I also later began to notice how my mouth has a strong metal taste (like aluminum foil) all the time. Food debris left in my mouth after eating will soon become full of this metal taste. I've even held food in my mouth for a while to test this fact.

Due to frustration and panic, I just quit going to the dentist 4-5 years ago. I've been very sick for over 10 years.

The ear-ringing and metal taste are the two things I associated with my dental work...I just didn't know a lot more could be associated with it. I later was watching some news program on TV about mecury-posioning and it surprised me that many other health problems that I was experiencing (fibromyalgia, etc.) could also be related. I have since been reading about the subject, and it appears to be written all about me.

I intend to visit another dentist (one that Dr. Stoll recommends) to be tested for mercury posioning and to discuss what I should do.



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Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Walt Stoll on September 09, 1998 at 10:01:28:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Phyllis A. on September 08, 1998 at 10:48:54:

Thanks, Phyllis!

Your story is a great testimonial about the necessity of finding a dentist that has gone to the extra effort needed to become an expert in this-----not just knowing how to drill out the filling. There is a LOT more to it!

Walt




Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me

Posted by Pamela Woo on September 17, 1998 at 04:38:20:

In Reply to: Re: Attn: Dr. Stoll/Robert McFerran: This brings up another ? for me posted by Phyllis A. on September 08, 1998 at 10:48:54:

BINGO!
Metallic taste indicates that accidity in your mouth causes electrolysis by leeching mercury! Likelly by lactic acid either from the bacteria in the colon, or from other external sources. You may experience cramps which are consistent wityn such accidic effects. Locking TMJ is one of such symptoms.

I had it all! Blood tests for mercury will showw nul!
You are suffering from first evident symptoms of accute systemic mercury poisoning, should your mercury be removed you may study the inner surface of mervury inntouch with toot material! The leeching may be demonstrated by whitish or yellowish discolloration of filling at the point of contact.
By removing mercury and paying $ a few grants you may find it was waort it!
However if mercury is not removed properly and is swallowed it may be very serious injury by the dentist!
The Dentist must use "DAM" and vaccum it all out!!

The other symptoms are related to GUT! due to mercury the bacterial floora in the gut is altered and consequently you will not respond properly to antibiotics.

The ringing in your ear is caused by the metal in your tooth. It happens that the mass of the metal is a perfect match to electromagnetic frequency which you are tunned to!
Your metal acts as an antenna creating effect simmilar to pizzoelectric feedback.
To many morons fromm ADA do not know this.
Mercury is found to cause more problems that many recognize.
People with MCS, CFS, Fibromyalgia are getting read of mercury. The expected improvement is about 6 weeks after removal of last filling, while some effects may be felt on the same day. Mercury removal may be concurrenty with chelation theraphy.
It is all simple for some one who is a liitle knowlegeable about it.



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