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Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System

Posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

The was an article in NY Times today reporting results of a study on hormone replacement. "A rigorous study found that the drugs, a combination of estrogen and progestin, caused small increases in breast cancer, heart attacks, strokes and blood clots. Those risks outweighed the drugs' benefits a small decrease in hip fractures and a decrease in colorectal cancer."



Re: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System

Posted by Joanie on July 10, 2002 at 08:12:36:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

Boggles the mind, doesn't it? How can this possibly be a shock?

Namaste`

Joanie

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Re: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System

Posted by
Mandy on July 10, 2002 at 17:40:41:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

Yes, similar information was on the news here last night in the Pacific NW. Just one example of many to come.

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Re: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System

Posted by Jan S. on July 10, 2002 at 17:44:34:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

Increase of risk of breast cancer was 26%, heart disease 22%. By what criteria I wonder they term these "small" increases!



Re: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System

Posted by lorena on July 10, 2002 at 22:09:06:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

Probably like most of us, I have been preaching the dangers of HRT to friends, family, the ladies in my Sunday School Classes (it almost caused a riot!) for over a year and met only disbelief and rebuff. I have been vindicated, but that is not what is important to me. What is, is that maybe now my friends will drop HRT like a hot potato and save their lives! I agree, that many more such proclamations are soon to come. Others already have, ie: Omega 3's have made it to the "outside world".

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Re: Hormone Replacement Study ..Evista and other drugs are suggested!

Posted by ~CT on July 10, 2002 at 23:17:27:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by R. on July 10, 2002 at 02:01:43:

Our article states "Diet and exercize, hypertension drugs, a low dose of aspirin and cholesterol lowering drugs are alternatives." and also that "Evista is an alternative to reducing the risk of osteoporosis."

Now let's stop and think which drug companies will benefit from this



Hormone Replacement Study a Shock (A dissenting opinion!) Archive in HRT.

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2002 at 07:41:26:

In Reply to: Re: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock to the Medical System posted by Jan S. on July 10, 2002 at 17:44:34:

Thanks, Jan.

Great question among many more to come!

This is a media feeding frenzy!

First of all, a trained reading of the article would come up with some very different interpretations. The media is just giving the most sensational (newsworthy), and lay, interpretation possible. It is possible that they just are not trained to interpret scientific articles.

Next, I have warned about the dangers of the routine prescribing of progesterone with estrogen for as many years as it has been done (about 20). This combination causes most of the side-effects and dangers while only theoretically helping the patient--no proof of any benefit as yet. Of course, this is done so the busy doctor doesn't have to think. It seems that thinking is just as painful for most docs as it is for most people. Besides it takes up the doc's time and time is money.

Finally, this study was done using not only the progesterone/estrogen combination but the estrogen used was Premarin (the most commonly used estrogen HRT in the country). Aging research, over the past 10 years has taught all of us a lot about this phenomenon: foremost among this is the fact that we now can separate out which fraction of the premarin's 3 main molecular components that causes most of the dangers and the least amount of the benefits. This fraction makes up about 70% of the premarin product.

The most beneficial and least dangerous fraction is estriol--which is easily and routinely separated out and available by prescription. Ask any aging specialist. The articles are also available from the People's Pharmacy.

I will bet my reputation on the fact that if this study were repeated tomorrow with estriol alone as the HRT the results would be VERY different.

Now all that remains is to see if the media feeding frenzy will cloud researchers minds so that this study will not even be done. This would be funny if it were not for the fact of so many women being harmed by this misinterpretation of science. Hopefully, cooler heads will win out but I am not going to hold my breath.

In the meantime the media exposure has the beneficial potential of alerting women that they need to change their "routine" prescription to estriol and not the premarin/progesterone combination which never should have been prescribed in the first place--to nearly everyone on it now.

Hopefully, time will tell.

Walt



Dr. Stoll, Are You Sure It Is Progesterone Instead of Progestin?

Posted by Pam on July 11, 2002 at 09:44:40:

In Reply to: Hormone Replacement Study a Shock (A dissenting opinion!) Archive in HRT. posted by Walt Stoll on July 11, 2002 at 07:41:26:


Dr. Stoll:

Are you sure the doctors are prescribing progesterone? I thought that Leilani said that they were prescribing Progestin.

Thanks,
Pam



Re: Hormone Replacement Study ..Evista and other drugs are suggested!

Posted by Joanie on July 11, 2002 at 12:37:04:

In Reply to: Re: Hormone Replacement Study ..Evista and other drugs are suggested! posted by ~CT on July 10, 2002 at 23:17:27:

Yeah, I was also pondering why this is suddenly newsworthy. They must have a replacement that they will make more money from. Go figure...

Namaste`

Joanie

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Re: Dr. Stoll, Are You Sure It Is Progesterone Instead of Progestin?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 12, 2002 at 07:27:57:

In Reply to: Dr. Stoll, Are You Sure It Is Progesterone Instead of Progestin? posted by Pam on July 11, 2002 at 09:44:40:

Hi, Pam.

All synthetic progesterone like substances are properly called "progestins".

Hope this helps.

Walt

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