Mercury Toxicity

mercury detoxification question

Posted by Richard Higdon on November 24, 1998 at 17:11:45:

Dr. Stoll

For mercury detoxification, would you use oral DMSA or intravenous DMPS?

Why?

Thanks


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Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Peter Wray on November 24, 1998 at 19:07:34:

In Reply to: mercury detoxification question posted by Richard Higdon on November 24, 1998 at 17:11:45:

I'm interested in the answer to this too. The DMSA seems much easier to take and from what I've read, is more effective at removing mercury from the central nervous system and brain.



Another mercury detoxification question

Posted by Peter Wray on November 24, 1998 at 19:13:43:

In Reply to: mercury detoxification question posted by Richard Higdon on November 24, 1998 at 17:11:45:

There is no definitive test that will tell an individual if their symptoms are a result of mercury toxicity. It is a major commitment (both financial and physical) to have one's fillings removed. If one believes they have mercury toxicity due to amalgam, would it be reasonable to go through a detox. program without having the amalgam removed. My theory here is that a detox program is agressive and should remove mercury faster than it goes bac into your system from your fillings, so one could expect improvements. If there are improvements, then one could begin the process of having fillings removed with a bit more confidence that there will be positive results.



Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 25, 1998 at 10:41:29:

In Reply to: mercury detoxification question posted by Richard Higdon on November 24, 1998 at 17:11:45:

Hi, Richard & Peter,

This question would be best answered by calling the "horse's mouth" at Hal Huggins place in CO (800) 331-2303. When questions like this came up in my practice, I just referred them to my Holistic Dentist.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



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Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Richard Higdon on November 30, 1998 at 06:42:05:

In Reply to: Re: mercury detoxification question posted by Walt Stoll on November 25, 1998 at 10:41:29:

Actually, I asked you because it is my impression that the chelating agent for mercury detoxification is selected by the doctor, not the dentist. Are you saying a dentist could prescribe oral DMSA or give intravenous DMPS? They are not doing that around here.

The information I have found since I asked you the question is that Huggins (he has a website) has recommended oral DMSA for some time, and various other websites are also recommending it. They indicate that DMSA works better than DMPS and has less (no) side effects.

However, the doctor I saw is still using intravenous DMPS. I had a bad reaction to it, and am (temporarily I hope) non-functional for the past 1-1/2 weeks. Also I now know that the (very nice and careful) dentist who replaced my first two amalgam fillings did not follow the complete Huggins protocol.

I'm currently trying to find in my geographic area a doctor who uses oral DMSA for mercury detoxification, and a dentist who follows Huggins complete protocol (including voltage measurements to establish order of filling replacement, and serum biocompatibility testing for the replacement material) before I continue with amalgam removal. It all takes so long to find the people and make the appointments. Until that is done, I don't have much hope of getting any better.


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Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 01, 1998 at 11:04:57:

In Reply to: Re: mercury detoxification question posted by Richard Higdon on November 30, 1998 at 06:42:05:

Dear Richard,

I would go with anything Hal said. I would be surprised if he did not have a list of his students and where they lived & practiced---------to help you find one that is competent. Lots of professionals are "nice guys", and care for their patients, but that is not enough. During this time of rapid change & progress, they also have to learn a lot & be willing to practice exactly what they have learned.

In MY practice, I was associated with one of those professionals and when a case came up, I did whatever the dentist told me that patient needed. Perhaps that is how we got around any "turf wars". All we cared about was the patient.

However, because of this I never had to become an expert in this. I had one right in my office. He didn't try to learn what I knew & vice versa. It was enough for both of us to be on the cutting edge of what we were learning and share it freely with each other as we were capable of absorbing it.

What is Hal's website?

Having said that, remember that still the most effective way to reduce reactivity to ANYTHING (mercury included) is to distance yourself from the "edge of your cliff". That means serious wellness. You don't have to wait (be a helpless victim of fate--waiting to find the right chelation or professional) to get THAT srarted.

Let us know how you do.

Walt





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Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Richard Higdon on December 17, 1998 at 10:26:28:

In Reply to: Re: mercury detoxification question posted by Walt Stoll on December 01, 1998 at 11:04:57:

Dr. Stoll

There is good news at the end of this. But first, the pits.

Well, I had 2 amalgam fillings replaced on Nov19, leaving 5 more to do. Immediately after that I went to the (holistic) doctor's office for an intravenous DMPS treatment. The first 2 days I was very tired, but my arrhythmia tendencies were noticably absent. However, after the second day, they came back with a vengence. As the days passed, the arrhythmia episodes (atrial fibrillation) were more frequent and lasted longer. Before, I never had episodes over 3 hours. But after the DMPS they were 6 hours, 7 hours, 8 hours, 14 hours, finally up to 18 hours. Very unsettling. Because of concern for stroke risk, I went to a hospital. At the behest of my cardiologist, I started taking digoxin (to retard arrhythmia tendency) and Plavix (blood thinner to manage stroke risk).

Because I was feeling so incredibly bad, I started digging around on the Internet. Many (most) websites indicate that oral DMSA does a better job than IV DMPS, with fewer side effects, though DMPS has its supporters. However, everything I found indicated that DMPS should not be given when amalgam fillings remain in the mouth. Evidently, it leaches out the mercury at an accelerated rate, and I got mercury poisoning in my gut. At my next appointment with my (holistic) doctor, he gave me a prescription for DMSA.

The uncontrollable arrhythmias stopped after 3 days of using the DMSA at a low dose of 50 mg recommended by Dr. Huggins (a dentist). Along with that, there are supplements recommended by Dr. Huggins and others (such as chlorella, garlic, Vitamin C, etc.) that aid in the body in clearing out the mercury compounds formed by the DMSA. I am now 11 days (and nights) without an arrhythmia episode, and feeling better as time passes.

Dr. Huggins website is http://www.hugnet.com. It is a very well done website. Dr. Huggins is now associated with a clinic in Puerto Vallarte, Mexico. After many years of fighting the good fight over mercury (amalgam fillings), root canals, and other dental procedures, his license was finally taken.

In January, I will be seeing a Dr. Mercola (holistic DO) in Schaumberg, IL, which is near where I live. He also has a website (http://www.mercola.com). He indicates that he has procedures for mercury detoxification that he considers to be more advanced/modern than some of Dr. Huggins recommendations.

I missed over 3 weeks of work due to that DMPS with amalgam fillings remaining business. Thankfully, my employer has been very understanding about all the problems I have been having (so far).


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Re: mercury detoxification question

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 18, 1998 at 11:10:34:

In Reply to: Re: mercury detoxification question posted by Richard Higdon on December 17, 1998 at 10:26:28:

Hi, Richard.

Hal Huggins is a good friend of mine and I consider him the "horse's mouth" when it comes to dental amalgams & health.

Of course, you know that this was all in your mind since the ADA insists that amalgams pose no threat to health (grim grin). It is the wonderful folks at the ADA who felt so threatened by Hal's work that they had to take his license.

I hope you have addressed the contribution that low intracellular magnesium might be having to make your heart rhythm be so sensitive to the mercury. If the magnesium is a factor, eventually the dysrrhythmias will return even though you have appropriately dealt with the mercury.

Thanks for the testimonial! There are still too many people who believe everything the ADA tells them.

Walt




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