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and really can't afford to get them replaced???
In Reply to: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by silver-tooth on June 07, 2001 at 17:25:00:
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In Reply to: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by silver-tooth on June 07, 2001 at 17:25:00:
I would say work on the lack consciousness you are showing here; Trust that you'll have the money for the fillings that need to be replaced. You can think a little at a time or quit before you get started which is what i heard in your message-i can't; As you need things let us know they will show up, maybe the suppliments will just show up for you, you never know. We have found a person needs antioxidants with they have silver fillings, that is the main thing; Start slow and don't let your mind go there with- I Can't before you see what shows up for you; Claim the right action will unfold to you [what is really needed]and at the right price; Good luck, sometimes our minds can add things up before we even consider something. There are those folks who find all kinds of ways to do things that seem impossible to others;
In Reply to: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by silver-tooth on June 07, 2001 at 17:25:00:
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" said Charles Dickens.
I know what you mean. I'm dealing with sick, can't work, life is over, amalgam removal, mercury toxic issues right now--it does not seem fair. It is tough, but I believe there is a purpose. Without sour, how do we appreciate sweet? Without tough times, would we ever appreciate the good? You will find a way because God gave us the ability to overcome, to learn, to grow and to prevail!
Doors will open. You will find a way.
In Reply to: And what about all those supplements one should take??? It adds up to hundreds of dollors per month!!! nm. posted by I'm not rich! on June 07, 2001 at 17:27:42:
Prioritize according to your budget. Consider the following for about $35 a month:
Whole food multi-vitamin: $10 mo.
Extra vit. E 4 mo.
Extra vit. C 3 mo.
Extra Magnesium 4 mo.
Folate (folic acid) 2 mo.
CoQ10 (anti-oxidant) 8 mo.
Garlic (herb) 4 mo.
In Reply to: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by silver-tooth on June 07, 2001 at 17:25:00:
Let me answer to your question simple way.
If you do not have money now to get rid now of mercury fillings, them you will even have less when you will become seriously sick and disable.
I sustained severe poisoning by dental mercury fillings and I am now on total permanent Social Security Disability.
It took me 6 years with no income of fight to obtain disability as the process is not as rewarding as some may think.
It is not enough that one is severe disable unable to function, but must deal with all the regulations.
If you do not know enough unable to handle the case by yourself, do not have money for top grade attorney, in case you are unable to deal by your self, you arfe out of luck and you may end up homeless with no income.
If you win you get a lousy check which is below the level of poverty.
So ... did this answereed your question?
Social Security determination is very strict, you may be totally paralized on wheelchair ... if you can speak on the phone Social Security may not find you disabled.
So roll your dices and make your choices.
If I will be in your place I will take a gun go to dentist office and tell him take it now out or they will carry you feet first!
Just kidding!
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by Davey on June 07, 2001 at 21:45:20:
Maybe one day soon the problem will be recognized and through some class-action everyone can have their mercury fillings replaced for free.
How much does it cost? I've not looked into it yet. Need to probably.
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by MAI on June 07, 2001 at 23:20:48:
MAI, YOU ARE SO RIGHT.im 40, i was a business executive making over $100,000 ( i grew up poor and worked hard), healthy as a horse my whole life till 4 years ago when i had 4 mercury fillings placed , i got severely sick the DAY! after and i have never been well since. i lost everything, my house, my job, all my money i had saved, my wife had a nervous breakdown as we didnt know what was wrong with me, i tried to commit suicide 2 times, i have spent 3 stints in mental hospitals.
i paid $10,000 to have my fillings replaced.ive tried everything like a soldier including doc stolls stuff. i got somewhat better, but the damage to my brain had already been done( i have a mba degree cum laude from the best school in ohio). im reduced to a walking moron , i cant work
all because of some damn dentist,and you are right ss disability is bullshit, my wife and i paid into this crap for 45 years total, i get nothing!! i sit here and watch the last of my retirement money dwindle. it makes me so mad i could punch that damn dentist, but i dont, somehow i live on, many times i dont want to , i fight suicidal thoughts evry morning. but then i pray and go on.
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by JR on June 08, 2001 at 07:40:40:
I'm lucky - because I have a MOUTHFUL of mercury fillings and have never noticed a problem that I can connect to them. I've never felt ill on the day of getting one either.
I've thought about having them removed, but not seriously looked into it because I've heard it can be a dangerous process that can leach a ton of mercury into your system (from the removal). I mean, is there really a safe way to get rid of them - seems risky to me. I'd hate to be feeling fine now and then get sick from mercury poisoning from the removal.
I wonder what % of people end up having problems from their mercury fillings, seems most get away with keeping them their whole lives.
When did dentists first start using mercury fillings, and what happened when they were first put into people back then? (I haven't been reading the recent mercury posts).
In Reply to: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 10:43:21:
How can you find out if you have mercury fillings? Do they still use them nowadays? Should they be taken out?
In Reply to: Re: And what about all those supplements one should take??? It adds up to hundreds of dollors per month!!! nm. posted by PeterB on June 07, 2001 at 22:37:41:
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In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 02:16:27:
For "class" action to succeed, you would need an identifiable defendant with deep pockets. What then might be "free" to you and your "class" would then become an unlegislated tax on the rest of society.
But rest assured, I wouldn't be deterred, because I'll get upwards of 40% of the total settlement!
Bring it on.
In Reply to: Where do you get whole food vitamins??? Brands??? nm posted by broke on June 08, 2001 at 12:04:50:
Broke,
I pay about $30.00 for a 3mth supply of MegaFood brand multi-vitamins without iron. The regular WITH iron formula is cheaper. This works out to $10 per month. I can't tell you how dramatically different I feel today compared with 5 yrs ago. I was 38 and felt like 78. Now I'm working on adjusting my diet to exclude refined foods. If you want to try the whole-food vitamins, go to your local health food store. MegaFood does not sell direct. Take care.
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by Lawyer on June 08, 2001 at 13:00:36:
he's right class action suits are basically stupid in terms of gaining any money for the plaintiff's , it all goes to the vampires. but it could prove a point .
In Reply to: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 10:43:21:
they have been using them for over a century, and even back then there were claims of illness. they harm millions, its hard to pinpoint a connection though thats the problem. if i were you i would get them out by a QUALIFIED mercury free dentist dentist very slowly ( maybe one every 3 months)
In Reply to: Re: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by Silvermolars on June 08, 2001 at 11:18:40:
yes they still use this poison. if they are silver in color then they are mercury!simple as that.
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by JR on June 08, 2001 at 07:40:40:
My situation is very similar.
Now many will have a PROOF of what the "experts" can tell you from personal experience.!
In Reply to: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 10:43:21:
First of all if mercury is PROPERLY removed as it should be so you do not swollow it, and vacum is used to draw the vapors you shall not presume that it will make you sick.
Having mercury in your mouth is more dangerous than removal, no doubt here.
Old mercury fillings which corode are extremelly dangerous.
All you need is either acidity, either any exposure with sulfides which will activate mercury in chemical reaction.
In Reply to: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 10:43:21:
Your question is "I wonder what % of people end up having problems from their mercury fillings, seems most get away with keeping them their whole lives."
The answer is very simple 85% of all population with mercury, the problem is they just do not know that their problems are related to dental mercury!
Starting from carpal tunel, computer vision, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, Fibromyalgia, Chronic fatigue Syndrome, autoimmune disorders, allergy, IBD, Lupus, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Lou Gherig disease, erectible dysfunction disorder, miscariages, MS, alleged menopause, alleged oral heprees (mercury sulfide), acne, high blood pressure, headaches, migranes, asthma, bronchitis, hemorroids, peripheral neuropathy, .......
Gulf War illness (chemical reaction in high temperature - desert - with leaking hydrogen sulfide from oil wells, and overload of mercury after injected vaccines from preservative known as Thimerosal!).
The morons who are investigating Gulf War illness are not interested to disclose the truth, they are after their own trip to get research grants for their own programs abusing the Gulf War investigative congressional funding!
Are you getting a picture NOW!....
Knowledge s power!
We are now in front of the biggest medical scam in entire history of medicine, and they know it very well!
In Reply to: Re: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by Silvermolars on June 08, 2001 at 11:18:40:
Any silver fillings in your mouth with discoloration on the tooth (grayish) enamel are mercury ...
There is NO other silver metal used in dentistry except palladium (highly toxic ! for crowns instead of gold).
One shall have no metal in mouth except titanium posts for crowns, and gold (24 carat only) leef fillings if metal is only solution (very expensive!).
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by Lawyer on June 08, 2001 at 13:00:36:
Class action is now in court:
NEWS RELEASE
Brockovitch Attorney Announces Massive Class Action Lawsuit Against
Dentists
Maine Decides Today Whether To Ban the Use of "Silver Fillings"
April 25, 2001
For Immediate Release
One day after a News Conference in Washington D.C., where a massive
class action lawsuit against dentists in the U.S. was announced,
hearings are taking place in Maine to decide as to whether or not to ban
the use of mercury dental fillings in that state.
States Alan Sigel, the attorney who gained national notoriety for his
role in the 'Erin Brockovitch case, " Our lawsuit could change the face
of dentistry in America. There is absolutely no reason that this poison
should be used in peoples mouths. I applaud the efforts in Maine to ban
the use of mercury. Mercury is poisoning our environment and our
citizens."
A news article in the April 20 edition of the Globe and Mail, Canada's
national newspaper, stated that, "dentists could be responsible for as
much as 80% of the mercury in sewage."
Two individual recent scientific studies conducted by the University of
Kentucky and the University of Calgary tied mercury poisoning to
Alzheimer's Disease.
The Class Action lawsuit announced by Mr. Sigel, will have far reaching
impact. Many more suits are expected to follow.
-30-
Media Inquiries:
Wayne Obie
Media & Public Relations
Talk International
for American against Mercury
1 (800) 540-0192
The lawsuit is a follow up of:
Legal brief filed in 1995 by attorneys for the ADA in W.H. Tolhurst vs. Johnson and Johnson Consumer Products, Inc.; Engelhard Corporation; ABE Dental, Inc.; the American Dental Association, et al., in the Superior Court of the State of California, in and for the County of Santa Clara, CA, Case No. 718228.
http://www.davidmillerdds.com/holistic.htm
"The ADA owes no legal duty of care to protect the public from allegedly dangerous products used by dentists. The ADA did not manufacture, design, supply or install the mercury-containing amalgams. The ADA does not control those who do. The ADA's only alleged involvement in the product was to provide information regarding its use. Dissemination of information relating to the practice of dentistry does not create a duty of care to protect the public from potential injury".
In Reply to: And what about all those supplements one should take??? It adds up to hundreds of dollors per month!!! nm. posted by I'm not rich! on June 07, 2001 at 17:27:42:
I am very fortunate since I make well over $ 100,000 a year and can afford it. I know not every one is so fortunate.
In your case
Steal if you can to save your own life with never being sorry or ashamed!
You were defrauded and do not feel sory for the fraud and injustiuce done to you!
It is totally ok to steal from insurance companies, and dentists and doctors who defrauded you and now benefit from your misery!
Get it back get even!
This is the only time I will ever justify stealling to protect your life and your family.
No mercy here, no sorry, no excuses!
Get it back, get even just to survive and save your live and your love ones!
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by JR on June 08, 2001 at 07:40:40:
JR,
You stiill can sue the bastard!
You have not passses the statue of limitation if such will ever apply.
Do not feel sorry for the dentist, punch SOB between the balls! He should feel it!
In Reply to: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by silver-tooth on June 07, 2001 at 17:25:00:
One year ago, I was a mess. Multiple chemical sensitivities, constant bladder and vulvar pain, burning tongue, tinnitus, joint pain, sciatic pain, etc., etc. The pain was unending and unbearable.
I started reading about mercury, and so many of the symptoms applied to me. I also learned that saunas chelate mercury. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired.
I bought a sauna, and now one year later, the only problem that I have is tinnitus. I use it every day. I got my sauna from www.promolife.com and it was approx. $1800.
It generally is going to cost you money to get better, and you have to decide how much your health is worth to you. I would far rather have to pay on my Discover card for the rest of my life (how I paid for my sauna) and be healthy, than to be in the physical shape that I was one year ago.
Also, in doing my research (four years worth), I learned that if I had had my filling replaced/removed, my body could not have withstood all that mercury being released during the process. You have to be healthy enough (liver-wise) to go through the removal/replacement. Saunas are a slow and gentle way of chelating mercury. I do not plan to have my fillings removed either, but I do plan to continue using my sauna.
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by MAI - Class action on June 08, 2001 at 14:20:06:
Thank you, MAI, so there IS a class action suit. It's going to be quite a fight but it's encouraging to know that at least this is getting some attention.
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by MAI - Class action on June 08, 2001 at 14:20:06:
nmi
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Sue bastard! you will win big! on June 08, 2001 at 15:23:27:
i looked into that early on , i was turned down by 4 attorneys ( i stumbled inot their offices with severe hives from the mercury poisoning all over my body and face and they all said i didnt have a strong enough case!.this was 3 and one half years ago.i think the statute is 1 year. its hard to win against these bastards at this point in time. class action suits may be the only way , but you dont get anything, the blood sucking lawyers on both sides get the doe. it does prove a point though.
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by JR on June 08, 2001 at 07:40:40:
nmi
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by jr on June 08, 2001 at 18:15:06:
Not any more!
The Brocovitch lawsuit make it easier.
The $ 3 billion dollars against Phillip Morris and Blue Shield $ 17.2 millons opened the avenue.
Go ant look aggresively for personal injury attorney.
There are exceptions in Statue of limitation...... depending on type of injury...
See post on Class action
In Reply to: Sounds like an allergic reaction, not poisoning nmi posted by Jax on June 08, 2001 at 18:22:56:
You CAN not have allergic reaction !
Allergic reaction in lay terms is adverse reaction to.
In medical terms it is IgE .... histamine ... mast cells ...
Mercury causes severe neurological and autoimmune problems.
Listen to those who know better ...
In Reply to: And what was the decision in Maine on 4/25/01?? (nmi) posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 17:51:29:
Call Toll free:
Wayne Obie 1 (800) 540-0192 (Canada)
You get all info you need and website contact!
Than post your answer!
In Reply to: Re: Saunas CAN chelate mercury posted by Susan on June 08, 2001 at 15:28:13:
NO WAY!
Sauna will NOT chelate mercury!
While sauna can help detox it is not chelator!
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by JR on June 08, 2001 at 07:40:40:
Have you tried detoxing with DMSA, DMPS, Lipoic Acid?
In Reply to: Getting them out doesn't always help and may harm, right? posted by kmd on June 08, 2001 at 10:43:21:
Let me see.
You have a mouth full of mercury. You're using this BB because you have health problems. You probably never found the real cause of your health problems.
MERCURY may be the core cause! Get a Toxic Element test !
I don't intend to be nasty but...You could wake up dead!
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Davey on June 08, 2001 at 23:36:41:
Mercury causes irreversible brain injury by cutting oxygen to brain cells causing death of brain cells, known as toxic encephalopaty, lobar perfusion or dimentia.
At severe injury there is little help.
DMPS works ONLY before CNS and brain injury.
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by MAI on June 09, 2001 at 01:14:31:
How does mercury stop O2 from geting to the brain ??
VF
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Vince F on June 09, 2001 at 05:28:21:
Heavy metals cause constriction of brain vessels.
Constriction means there is either lower blood floow through brain capilary, either substantial raise in blood pressure.
Lower rate of blood flow causes reduced oxygen supply/exchage and fatigue.
Oxygen is procesed by cytochrome enzymes (i.e. p 450), and some toxic exposures act on cytochrome oxidise.
This is the mechanism associated with Chronic Fatigue (lowered oxygen supply/exchange to brain).
Your brain consumes more or less 20% of all oxygen!
In Reply to: You could wake up dead! posted by Davey on June 08, 2001 at 23:50:42:
Hi Davey,
You didn't exactly pinpoint why I participate in this BB, but that's OK.
There are so many things that are "dangerous" in this world, that to get irate about each one of them would create a lifestyle contrary to what I am trying to create here. Once one problem is solved there are a hundred more out there that some people will say is THE thing we should fix above all else. Candida, LGS, hidden allergies, SR, fluoride, now mercury... Just some examples so you can see why I am not an alarmist.
When fear overtakes us I believe we become more susceptible to the very thing we fear. Therefore by me getting all upset about my fillings - I am asking for trouble. Best to calmly consider if I want to do anything, and maintain my belief that all will be well (because prayer and positive affirmations work).
Now, what is a toxic element test, where do you get one, and how much does it cost...
In Reply to: Re:please read this!!!!!!!!!!! posted by MAI on June 09, 2001 at 12:00:19:
Isn't there a way to dilate the blood vessles and limit or
reverse the damage ?? I think I am solving a similar
problem with circulation to my muscles that made them ache
severly after any physical activity.
VF
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by kmd on June 09, 2001 at 12:28:53:
Hey kmd,
I don't disagree in general with your philosophy. The point I wish to make is that mercury (and other chemical or metal toxicity) may be the Cause of some symptom you or I are treating diligently. All the time, money and effort we spend on the symptom only masks the Real cause. So I am agreeing with Dr. Stoll's analogy of putting tape over your car dashboard warning lights.
If a person has health problems of unknown origin And has amalgams, this is a red flag for mercury toxicity! It happened to me, so I try to warn others, but everyone is so indoctrinated with the dogma that "they won't use anyting in my mouth that will hurt me". Pleaseeeeee! most health care is about money! Oh, the dentist or doc may care, but The System does not. MAI may sound alarmist but I believe we Will someday see amalgams as one of the worst frauds of our time. Hey they told us for years tobacco was OK.
Anyway. A simple, easy Urine Toxic Element Test will look at lead, arsenic, mercury etc etc levels in your body. Basically you take a DMPS or DMSA tablet which "stirs up" toxic elements in your body so they can be excreted. You then collect urine and send it to a lab, they measure the result. Simple, painless and about $130 from Doctors Data (probably others also). Most doctors do not have a clue, you will have to guide them. Hey..they treat symptoms!
The results can either give you piece of mind (you're clean) or can show you reality so you can deal with the Real problem. Heavy metals poison the body--you can have almost any symptom, which your doc treats. But this does not treat the Real cause!
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by Davey on June 09, 2001 at 14:33:54:
the reason you are not an alarmist is because you are not sick enough YET. wait awahile and let your symptoms develop( if mercury is the problem ) and then we will see who the alarmist is. i wasnt either till , after getting 4 silver fillings placed i was covered in hives and bedridden for a year.( i hadnt seen a doctor for 26 years before that!)we are just trying to warn and help thats all.
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by Davey on June 09, 2001 at 14:33:54:
Yes, I understand the way it goes with doctors - treating symptoms, not looking for the cause... know it all too well.
$130 seems high for a urine test. Makes you wonder - maybe conventional doctors aren't the only ones over-charging for things. Sure hope that fee includes the tablet you take...
And if they find mercury toxicity in someone who has no fillings - say from vaccinations - then what? There's no way to get rid of it. If they find other metals/chemicals, what do they propose we do about it? Buy THEIR conglomeration of special supplements and take them forever?
I have a friend with MS, she got all her amalgams removed way back when and it did NOT improve her MS at all. Everything depends on individual factors, wouldn't you say? What affected you horribly may not affect me at all.
I'm just not sure I want to jump into the black hole of endless pursuit of one toxic crisis after another. I may or may not ever get my fillings replaced. But I sure would like to know why the process costs MANY TIMES MORE than it costs to get a NEW filling, or a broken one replaced. So, why is that? If the holistic dentists believe in what they stand for, they need to make it affordable. It shouldn't cost any more than the regular fee for a filling!
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by ty on June 09, 2001 at 14:55:07:
I agree with everything kmd said. ty, if you are positive that mercury poisoned you, then, of course, you should do everything you can to try to correct the problem. But, for someone to send a sample of urine AWAY to be tested--not to mention paying $130 for it seems ridiculous to me.
I believe you said you had your fillings removed. Well, that has helped me know that I will not have mine removed lest I have the same problems as you have had.
What if I told you that I ate some chocolate and ended up in the hospital and have felt sick ever since, would you then think that chocolate is poisonous, and that chocolate is causing all your sick feelings? I imagine you would consider it a possibility, but that's all. That's probably not a good example, but you know what I mean, I think. Of course, this is just my opinion.
In Reply to: You could wake up dead! posted by Davey on June 08, 2001 at 23:50:42:
I've gone into the dentist before and they've told me my fillings had to be replaced and I said ok. They drilled them out and redid them. Could this have released mercury into my system? How? I understand this is a fairly common procedure: they wear out. What would be the wisest procedure? Let them continue to deteriorate. This is quite an issue here: What to do when they wear out.
Also: once when I was a kid I was eating a Jolly Rancher candy (I know , I know) and it pulled out my filling. Why can't they remove fillings the same way, so to speak? Man, I feel like buying a bag of Jolly Ranchers!!!!
Also: I have a crown over a tooth that is part metal. Is this toxic also?
You'd think they'd find a way to make money safely removing them (pardon the sarcasm).
In Reply to: Re: What hope is there for us who have a mouth full of fillings... posted by MAI - Class action on June 08, 2001 at 14:20:06:
Unless something has changed in the past couple of years, that is. I called Sacramento and that's what I was told.
In Reply to: Re: Sounds like an allergic reaction, not poisoning nmi posted by MAI on June 08, 2001 at 18:27:48:
I know metals are extremely hard to remove, but there has to be a way. Gee, and I've been using a deodorant stone for years to keep away from metals (I keep away from all aluminum-like aluminum cans).
Again, there has to be a way to cleanse the system.
In Reply to: Where do you get whole food vitamins??? Brands??? nm posted by broke on June 08, 2001 at 12:04:50:
They also have a website. Once a month they have a 30 per cent off sale. I use their Green Source vitamins. They're great and are derived from plants. Hope this helps.
In Reply to: Re: And what about all those supplements one should take??? It adds up to hundreds of dollors per month!!! nm. posted by Solution! on June 08, 2001 at 15:19:12:
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In Reply to: And what about all those supplements one should take??? It adds up to hundreds of dollors per month!!! nm. posted by I'm not rich! on June 07, 2001 at 17:27:42:
buying supplements, organic foods, etc. is really very expensive! The cost of grocerys is soaring! Buying fresh produce is expensive, plus have you checked out the price of chicken and fish lately!!! It is just very discouraging that the cost of trying to do whats best for our health is very expensive!
In Reply to: What about when my silver fillings wear out??? posted by tbc on June 09, 2001 at 18:18:26:
Jolly ranchers!
What a great idea!
Mercury fillings shall not be drilled!
Thei need to be cracked, split lifted!
Drilling emits vapors when heated and guess where it goes ...
In Reply to: stealing no matter what way you look at it is wrong....nm posted by Not rich, but moral on June 09, 2001 at 20:11:03:
Ask yourself first:
Are doctors and dentists moral?
If you have a choice to die in pain because of their acts, and can not afford I will consider it is not a moral issue but life or death issue . ... a matter of survival ...
Since when dentists and doctors are honest and moral ....
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by ty on June 09, 2001 at 14:55:07:
that some people are Sensitive to mercury and some aren't,
Like everything else, Bubonic plague, Influenza, AIDS,
and the like. Not everyone is affected.
VF
In Reply to: I understand the theory "pay now or pay" later but the reality is.... posted by Sigh! on June 09, 2001 at 20:16:55:
Hi, Sigh!
Only until you learn how to do it. THEN, it is a lot less expensive than what you have been doing. Learning is a painful process but it really doesn't take very long. It took me about 3 months (before I was saving money) and I am still learning 25 years later.
Walt
In Reply to: I understand the theory "pay now or pay" later but the reality is.... posted by Sigh! on June 09, 2001 at 20:16:55:
Well to make you feel better lets put it this way.
The vendors are taking the advantage of situation, no doubt about it.
But lokk like this:
Nothing is expensive, some of us just do not make enough to be able to afford it!
This will or should motivate you at least to pursue fiinancial targets.
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by kmd on June 09, 2001 at 15:37:47:
My daughter has morphea...and heavy metal toxicity: highly
elevated levels of mercury, lead, aluminum, arsenic,
antimony and uranium. She has no fillings. The poisoning
came from her vaccinations she received as a baby. Her 24
hour elemental urinalysis cost $363.00 through Great Smokies
Diagnostic Laboratory. She just completed her 10 week DMSO
treatment. Her doctor said he wants her to repeat the
urinalysis and treatment if the metals have not been
completely removed from her system. The morphea patches she
has on the trunk of her body she'll have for life, but I'm
praying that this (DMSO) treatment will take care of her
problem.
What about intraveneous chelation therapy for more advanced
stages of mercury poisoning. Does anyone have any info. re:
this??
I.
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by Raisa on June 09, 2001 at 17:48:45:
Many DOES not know that dark chocolade help to detox!
In Reply to: Re: You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by ty on June 09, 2001 at 14:55:07:
"You could wake up dead! - Toxic element test? posted by Davey"
Davey: If You wake YOU ARE NOT dead!
If You don't wake YOU ARE dead!
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