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I guess I might be over-worrying (is that a word?) about overdoing it on the magnesium for the PVC's. Am I off my rocker?
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What is magnesium?
Magnesium is a mineral found in bone
What do we know about magnesium?
Promotes bone metabolism
Transmits nerve impulses to muscles
Transports calcium and potassium
Promotes energy production from the carbohydrates you eat
Regulates body protein and DNA production
Regulates blood pressure (in conjunction with calcium and potassium)
Where can you get magnesium?
Dark green leafy vegetables
Meat
Milk
Nuts
Legumes (dried beans)
Bananas
Wheat bran
Whole grains
Top 10 dietary sources of magnesium include:
Food Amount Magnesium (Milligrams)
All-bran cereal
8 oz. (1 cup)
318
Soybean nuts, roasted
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
196
Pumpkin seeds, roasted
1 oz.
152
Tofu
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
127
Navy beans, canned
8 oz. (1 cup)
122
Lima beans, canned
8 oz. (1 cup)
94
Almonds
1 oz.
86
Cooked spinach
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
78
Kidney beans, canned
8 oz. (1 cup)
74
Lentils, cooked
8 oz.(1 cup)
71
Bran flakes
8 oz.(1 cup)
70
Potato with skin
1 medium potato
55
Peanut butter
2 tbsp.
51
Okra, boiled
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
46
Peas, cooked or frozen
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
23
Green beans, cooked or frozen
4 oz. (1/2 cup)
15
How much magnesium do you need?
RDA for magnesium is different for men and women, and different amounts are suggested for different ages.
Three servings of vegetables a day
Legumes two or three times a week
Six to 10 servings of whole grains a day
Gender
Age
Amount Required (milligrams)
Men
19-30
400
Men
31-70
420
Pregnant women
18 and under
400
Pregnant women
19-30
350
Pregnant women
31-50
360
Women
19-30
310
Women
31-70
320
Magnesium deficiency signs and symptoms
Nausea
Muscle weakness
Irritability
Abnormalities in heart rhythm
How much is too much magnesium?
Daily limit is 350 milligrams a day
Milk of magnesia (1,000 milligrams of magnesium in two tablespoons) exceeds daily limit
People with kidney disorders can accumulate dangerous levels of magnesium
Magnesium intoxication signs and symptoms include:
Drowsiness
Lethargy
Sweating
Slurred speech
Decreased availability of calcium and phosphorus
In Reply to: Magnesium article posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 18:45:49:
Hi Steven,
I learned from Walt that some people need 1,000 times what other people need of a certain nutritional substance in order to be healthy. It's called "inborn error of metabolism." If you are one of those people who need extra magnesium, then you're probably not going to get enough from food. How many cups of "all bran" cereal do you really want to eat each day?
I read a book called "America Exhausted." The author made the same point as Walt. He said he was incredibly surprised how many people had functional deficiencies in certain vitamins and minerals. If you don't have what your body needs, you start showing symptoms -- fatigue is one of them, palpitations is another.
I have palpitations. I'm taking both high doses of magnesium and B vitamins. I am not worried about it. These are nutritional substances, not drugs.
RDA? That's established by whom? Our government. What do they know?
Just my opinion.
Best wishes,
Happygal
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Happygal on September 14, 2003 at 19:03:30:
Funny that you should say that because I do eat a huge bowl of bran cereal each day. I've been reading about some people taking magnesium and it causing more palps. I have just had terrible experiences in the past few years. Let me give you an example of how bad it has been: I took allergy injections years ago. They make you sign a waiver before which says the chances of an allergic reaction is extremely rare, about the same as getting into a car accident on the way to the shot. I thought it was very funny because I did have the reaction (which the nurse said she has only seen one other time in the 10 years she had been there), they had to call 911 and give me a bunch of stuff. It was even funnier because someone actually smacked the side of a my car on the way to the office that same day. What are the chances of having BOTH happen on the same day?
So I guess you can see why I am very wary of everythin I hear, read and see.
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 19:49:28:
Those overdoses you fear are assuming you will absorb all that magnesium. Walt has said the big problem with magnesium is that it is very difficult to absorb. And since you seem to be showing symptoms, you probably are proving the point that you're not absorbing it well either.
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 19:49:28:
Hi Steven,
Yeah, my body doesn't follow the rules either. I tried magnesium at least 15 times unsuccessfully before it finally helped. I've had (adjective) experiences for the past two decades as well, however it sounds like your double-whammy takes the cake.
They could do 100 studies proving how something works and it would work differently for some people, no doubt. Thus I'm totally wary of EVERYTHING I read and hear.
Since the doctors (except Walt) have no answers for me (except they would be happy to spend what little money I have), I mostly just try things and use my gut instincts about whether to do something or not. Do you know of any better way?
Basically, Walt's done better for me than anyone else, so I deifnitely trust and try his recommendations. However, my body's response and gut instincts have to go above even his recommendations. It has to be that way. Our bodies are the final judge of whether something works or not.
So when you take magnesium, how does it make you feel? What's your gut response?
Best wishes,
Happygal
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Sally on September 14, 2003 at 22:18:25:
I haven't yet begun taking the magnesium at all. I'm just very afraid because of my past with reacting. Having IBS, the side effect of loose stools from the magnesium is tricky because I will have them either way. I'm not going to do the magnesium, I think, until I get my levels checked at a holistic doc. But, I have to see how much they'll charge for that.
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Happygal on September 14, 2003 at 22:22:18:
Happygal,
I haven't started the magnesium yet. My stomach is SO sensitive that I am extremely hesitant to change anything in my die. I have gotten it to the point where my IBS and GERD are only mild probs because of what I eat, or rather don't eat anymore. :(
My main thing is the PVC's and palps which are killin me now. I also want to stop all these compounding prob that keep happening to me. Every day it's something else. I am reading the Relaxation and Stress Response Book and so fa, it seems a bit vague but I'm only a few chapters in. It seems like doing 15 to 20 minutes 2 times a day wouldn't be feasible going by their chart since it recommends doing many different things (the bold X's) for my general anxiety and stomach probs. Any pointers if you know of them? Thanks.
In Reply to: Re: Magnesium article posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 22:40:55:
Hi Steven,
If your stomach is really sensitive, yes, hold off on the magnesium. I've had a lot of digestive distress from taking it, even glycinate which is easily absorbed. I started taking 5 (100 mgs) a day, it caused a terrible stomach upset/flatulence problem. Switching brands didn't help. Finally I used lots of probiotics and that resolved it. Unfortunately, I decided that 5 a day wasn't enough magnesium and I just increased to 10 a day. The whole flatulence/digestive problem is back with that and I'm still working on it. :o(
About SR, I suggest that you do 20 or 30 minutes twice a day. Or do three times a day if you can. Just get a regular practice going and be faithful to it, that's the most important thing. You might start with a grand experiment and do a different method each day for a week and see which one you like best. Then continue with that one for a while and see how you do.
SR is really great. It didn't make my palpitations go away (so far the magnesium is doing the best job at that, although still not 100% perfect), but SR has helped my feel much better most of the time. Just keep going forward on this road and it will help. Your body will teach you a lot.
Best wishes,
Happygal
In Reply to: Magnesium article posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 18:45:49:
Thanks, Steven.
I think you will find that whoever compiled this information is NOT an expert in magnesium metabolism. I would suggest your reading one of the references in the archives for much more up-to-date information.
There is valuable info in the article, though, so I am asking for it to be archived.
Walt
In Reply to: On the contrary posted by Steven on September 14, 2003 at 22:22:52:
I'm no authority on this although I think it would be harmless to try. Have you looked into probiotics for your diarrhea and also L-Glutamine which is a healer for the gut? I think both are pretty important for digestive healing and many discussions are in the archives I'm sure.
Quite a while ago, I also had the GH diagnosis and later lost my thyroid gland to autoimmune disease. Now that I have found Dr. Stoll, I understand what happened. I'm sure you will gain more confidence in what Walt says at some point.
In Reply to: Re: On the contrary posted by Sally on September 15, 2003 at 13:35:38:
I take acidophilus 3 times a day and have for over 2 years now (I think).
I don't take Glutamine but I dirnk protein shakes and eat the bars as well and they do have l-glutamine in them. It's an essential when you weight train as I do.
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