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Posted by ana [1683.457] on February 13, 2004 at 08:04:31:

I have read in several posts that the most recommended form of magnesium supplementation is a magnesium salt such as magnesium orotate or glycinate.
I recently found in the drug store a new brand of magnesium supplement, it is MAG2 or magnesium pidolate in liquid form.
Do you have any experience of this form of magnesium, and how it compares with the other salt forms?
Thank you.



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 14, 2004 at 08:20:39:

In Reply to: magnesium pidolate posted by ana [1683.457] on February 13, 2004 at 08:04:31:

Hi, Ana.

Are you sure you do not mean picolate?

Walt



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by ana [1683.457] on February 15, 2004 at 06:22:47:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 14, 2004 at 08:20:39:

It is magnesium pidolate. In French it is called pidolate de magnesium. The chemical structure is C10H12O6N2Mg.
Each tude contains 1,5 grams of pidolate de magnesium, or Pyrrolidone Carboxylate De Magnesium, which corresponds to 122 mgr of elemental magnesium. It is quite inexpensive compared to other magnesium salts, for this reason I would like to have your comments.
Thank you.



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 16, 2004 at 06:41:50:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by ana [1683.457] on February 15, 2004 at 06:22:47:

Thanks, Anna.

In this country that is called "picolinate" and IS one of the better absorbed forms for minerals. In my opinion, it is not worth the extra cost unless the les expensive ones--glycinate, orotate or aspartate--are not well enough absorbed to do the job.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by ana [333.18] on February 17, 2004 at 01:54:29:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 16, 2004 at 06:41:50:

In fact, Dr.Stoll, the magnesium pidolate in my country is far cheaper than other forms of magnesium.
For example, one box of 20 tubes, each containing 125 ml of elemental magnesium, costs about usd 5, and a bottle and of 30 magnesium orotate 500 mg pills, each containing about 40 mg of free magnesium, costs about usd 20.
Price is of secondary importance of course but it does matter. I am currently taking two ampoules daily which I am thinking to increase it to three and give it a try for a couple of months.

Thank you.



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 18, 2004 at 07:50:31:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by ana [333.18] on February 17, 2004 at 01:54:29:

Thanks, Ana.

Considering that you would need at least 2000 milligrams of elemental magnesium a day for a decent therapeutic trial...

I think you should keep looking.

Let us know what you learn.

Walt



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?)

Posted by ana [333.18] on February 18, 2004 at 08:19:52:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 18, 2004 at 07:50:31:

Dr Stoll
I have read several times the recommended dosage for magnesium. 2000 mg of elemental magnesium means:
1. 17 ampoules of pidolate daily, or (each containing 125 mg of magnesium)
2. 50 pills of magnesium orotate daily (each containing 40 mg of magnesium)

It is hard to conceive the above. S.H.A.P.E. on the other hand recommended 3 pills of magnesium orotate daily.
As you can see I am confused. I prefer to move slowly but definitively the above dosages are prohibitive.

If you have any suggestions, I would like to hear.






Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) Starting dosage??? Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 19, 2004 at 07:27:42:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) posted by ana [333.18] on February 18, 2004 at 08:19:52:

Ana,

I am recommending the dose that will give the best theraptic trial without risk. Smaller doses help less % of people and the risk for those people is that they will then decide that magnesium is not their problem and look elsewhere.

Much less MAY be effective but the best way to find out is to take the large dose for a while and see if there are results.

Walt



Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) Starting dosage??? Archive.

Posted by ana [333.18] on February 19, 2004 at 08:20:01:

In Reply to: Re: magnesium pidolate (Typo?) Starting dosage??? Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on February 19, 2004 at 07:27:42:

Thank Dr Stoll
I appreciate your comments and the clear way you express them.
I will advise you on my findings.
All the best.

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