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Posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 07:14:47:

Can anybody tell me what happens to milk when it is pasteurised. I buy organic milk, but it is still pasteurised. Here in the UK I cannot get raw milk unless I drive 250 miles to the nearest farm that produces it. Here it is illegal to sell raw milk in the shops and the only way to get it is direct from the farm. No chance.

What does pasteurisation do to milk and what does it destroy? Thanks.



Re: Pasteurised Milk

Posted by Trace on August 20, 2003 at 09:19:45:

In Reply to: Pasteurised Milk posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 07:14:47:

While pasteurization kills enzymes and some bacteria, pasteurization does not kill mycobacterium paratuberculosis (MAP) a possible cause of bowel disease, including Crohn's Disease.



Re: Pasteurised Milk

Posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 16:46:38:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurised Milk posted by Trace on August 20, 2003 at 09:19:45:

So it must be in raw milk too?



Re: Pasteurised Milk

Posted by LINDA FFE on August 21, 2003 at 04:33:45:

In Reply to: Pasteurised Milk posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 07:14:47:

I think u;ll find the answer on Dr Mercola's site http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm



The Link's about eggs, not milk!

Posted by ultimate on August 21, 2003 at 05:53:05:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurised Milk posted by LINDA FFE on August 21, 2003 at 04:33:45:

Don't see the connection.

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Re: Pasteurised Milk

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 21, 2003 at 06:34:20:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurised Milk posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 16:46:38:

Hi, Ultimate.

Only if the cow has TB and all milk producing herds are required to be tested regularly.

Walt

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Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 21, 2003 at 06:42:30:

In Reply to: Pasteurised Milk posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 07:14:47:

Ultimate,

Pasteurization alters many things in milk. I was born and raised on a large dairy farm in Ohio. I was the oldest of 7 children. We all drank milk from the tank before it was either pasteurized or homogenized. You have not tasted milk till you taste that. This was true of our entire family back at least 2 generations and none of us had any problem!

Now they routinely have "ultra pasteurization". This "milk" can sit on the shelf, unrefrigerated, for months and will not spoil. Apparently no self-respecting bacteria or fungus will go near it since it no longer can support life in the simpler species. It will take 40 years of people eating this ersatz "dairy" product before we know what kind of problems it will cause.

Hope this helps.

Walt



Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.)

Posted by Maz on August 21, 2003 at 07:55:00:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 21, 2003 at 06:42:30:

A great post Walt.

My mum, before she died last year, used to tell me stories of when she was a youngster. Her mother had to leave a large jug on the doorstep each day. The milk was delivered but you needed your own container for it to be poured into and it was delivered in a churn straight from the cow! My mum called it "cow juice". She said the best food in the world.

The problem is Walt, surely would it not be dangerous drinking raw milk from the type of cows that are reared now. Unless organic, they are fed on grain and stuff and God knows what else. They are pumped with antibiotics and growth hormones too. Would this not put you off raw milk today?

Regards,
Maz



Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 22, 2003 at 07:25:40:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.) posted by Maz on August 21, 2003 at 07:55:00:

Thanks, Maz.

There certainly are many reasons for avoiding dairy today.

There still are conscientious producers that avoid all that crap but the lawyers have made it very difficult to find them. I have, reluctantly, resolved this by avoiding dairy completely. My father would roll over in his grave!

Walt

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Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.)

Posted by R. on August 22, 2003 at 14:14:18:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.) posted by Maz on August 21, 2003 at 07:55:00:

Unless organic, they are fed on grain and stuff and God knows what else.

Organic merely means that the feed is organic and doesn't specify what kind it is. Organically produced milk is very often from cows fed grains.

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Re: Pasteurised Milk

Posted by R. on August 22, 2003 at 14:15:24:

In Reply to: Pasteurised Milk posted by ultimate on August 20, 2003 at 07:14:47:

Peruse



Re: Pasteurized Milk (Archive in milk.) Hopeful information.

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 23, 2003 at 10:22:24:

In Reply to: Re: Pasteurised Milk posted by R. on August 22, 2003 at 14:15:24:

Thanks, R.

Walt

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