i have mvp i am a 23 year old female and i have been expeirencing pain in my chest. it is on and off but i am told mvp should have no pain involved. i have been taking inderol but it has no affect. i have had these pains for 3 weeks and i have been to a doctor who diagnosted me with mvp. please tell me what could be the problem and what i can do about it.
thanx :o)
kristin
In Reply to: mitral valve prolapse posted by justin on March 08, 1998 at 21:14:46:
Dear Kristin,
MVP doesn't cause any symptoms. However, the causes of MVP do.
The profession is guilty of intentional ignorance about this FAD diagnosis.
Go to my home page with this link & read about Mitral Valve Prolapse. Then, if that makes sense to you, you need to take the next step & read a copy of my book (link below). THEN, if you want to go further, read a copy of Dr Pelletier's book, referenced in the back of MY book, "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer".
BTW, your chest pains are almost certainly due to costochondritis--which is directly related to your entire mechanism of causation of the MVP.
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Walt
In Reply to: mitral valve prolapse posted by justin on March 08, 1998 at 21:14:46:
There are a lot of differing opinions out there on the causes of MVP. I personally have written to Dr. Stoll chronicalling my life health history and while I agree with what he says, it is very hard to find a doctor here that agrees. Meanwihle, here are a couple of sites with more info: swiftsite.com/mitralvalveprolapsesyndrome/index.htm &
advocatehealth.com/heartcare/common/mvpsynd.html.
I find avoiding caffeine, chocolate, many dairy products, especially cream(ed) cheeses, stress and most cold medications to be helpful. I hope you find something on the other web sites and be aware that MVP can be one of many other diseases that will show up in the years ahead. DEB :-)
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse posted by Deb Wolfley on March 14, 1998 at 18:21:46:
Oops, forgot the most important thing...AVOID MSG like your life depends on it. It's in virtually Everything That Tastes Good, read labels, find out about all of it's different label names. Avoid fast foods, canned foods, frozen foods, sauces, mixes like gravy and meatloaf, flavored chips and crackers - EVERYTHING. You won't believe the difference! GOOD LUCK - Deb :-)
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse posted by Deb Wolfley on March 14, 1998 at 18:21:46:
Dear Deb,
The test of any "theory" is whether it works. All those conventional docs who don't agree with me have no answers to MVP. Of course, MVP causes no symptoms. ANY symptoms are caused by the C-RS. When the C-RS is resolved, all the symptoms go away. The MVP is still there.
There are enough docs in this country who know how to diagnose & treat C-RS that there is no excuse not to deal with it.]
The problem is not that the candida approach does not work but that everyone would sooner find a simple "treatment" that does not involve a lot of work on the part of the person. We, who have had years of experience with this, call this common symdrome "wiggling on the hook".
You can bet that the skeptical docs would not be so skeptical if THEY were suffering the symptoms.
Walt
This is so interesting. I have had ectopic heartbeats (PVC's) for over 20 years. Also having trouble with candida in the past 3-4 years. Since I just checked into this site, I'd like to read more.....stay posted.
In Reply to: Re: irregular heartbeat- painful ribs posted by Carol on March 21, 1998 at 14:59:49:
Welcome, Carol.
I have seen this combination my entire practice history but never resolved it till I learned how they were conected by a common cause. Dealing with the cause eliminated ALL of the conditions at the same time--as well as creating many positive side effects as the entire physiology responded to a healthier burden.
Let us know what you learn. Be sure to use the archives & search feature to save time finding what you are interested in.
Walt
How is mitral valve prolapse diagnosed? What are the tests for diagnosing it? I have chest pains that sometimes occur out of the blue, sometimes when under stress, and frequently when I lose sleep.
In Reply to: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by John on March 24, 1998 at 22:59:33:
Dear John,
WHY worry about an MVP diagnosis? MVP never causes any symptoms. If you allow some ignorant doc to make this diagnosis, & then tell you that MVP is causing any of your symptoms, s/he will also tell you that nothing can be done about it and send you home. Of course, even though the doc says nothing can be done, nearly every case is given a prescription----------------WHY?
Why not get rid of WHY you have MVP, if you do, and watch the symptoms go away even though the MVP remains? Read what I have on the home page of this website (link on this page) about MVP. THEN, if you want to know what to do about the causes, read a copy of my book (link below) and follow the references in the back that relate to what you know about yourself ("MAH, MAS" and "The Yeast Connection").
When you have that basic information under your belt, if you still have questions, write again. My bet, without knowing any more than you have said, would be that you have costochondritis or GERD as the cause of your "chest pain".
The diagnosis of MVP includes a physician (competent in auscultation of the heart--of which there are very few) listening to the heart with a stethescope and doing an echocardiogram.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by Walt Stoll on March 26, 1998 at 10:05:38:
Is there a connection between costochondritis and lupus? My maternal grandmother had lupus. Also, 2 years ago I experienced chest and severe shoulder pain accompanied by a strange "clicking" noise around the heart when i moved or sat in certain postions. This problem began and went away in about a week. However, it came back about 8 months later and this time it did not go away so easily. I went to my family doctor and was scheduled for an echocardiagram (performed at the hospital and not at practice). The results came back good but the doctor said that it wasn't the best echocardiagram they had ever performed, I suppose meaning the image wasn't as clear as they had wished. After my doctor got back the results and the opinons from other doctors on it, they all agreed that my heart looked fine. I was diagnosed as having pleurisy and given lodine for the pain. That has almost been a year and a half ago now. Do you think that that was pleurisy? Does costochondritis cause noise like that? Thank you very much for your quick response.
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by John on March 26, 1998 at 14:16:19:
Der John,
Costochondritis typically DOES cause that clicking and pleurisy never does. I would be very skeptical about returning to any physicians involved with that spurious diagnosis.
Doing an echocardiogram for your symptoms is another example of how the medical profession "fleeces the public". It is quick & easy to just order an expensive test. The quicker the doc can get you out of the office the more money s/he makes. ALL classical diagnosticians have taught that a careful history & physical makes more than 95% of the diagnoses. All the expensive "tests" only diagnose less than 5%. However 95% of the money is made ordering the tests. Guess how this trend happened?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by Walt Stoll on March 28, 1998 at 08:15:23:
With that pain and "clicking" I suffered from, there was also difficulty breathing. The clicking was right around the heart area as well which was frightening. I heard that costochondritis was painful to the touch. My chest pain has never been painful to the touch.
In Reply to: Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia posted by Dorothy on March 20, 1998 at 20:00:33:
I am 24 yr male that had a 200bpm tach 1 time. I had smaller ones driving home from work on the same road spot and same time each night. I had instances where my heart seemed to flutter and jump around in different patterns. On one occassion I almost past out.I AM SO SCARE AND FRUSTRATED. I have been Diag with Panic dissorder yet I feel that I get anxiety only from my heart condition. I am taking beta blocker SECTRAL 200mg every other day by Dr. Porterfield in Memphis and no more tachs but I still have flutters and breathing probs occassionally and a weird sensation much like a low blood glucose sensation. I am tired easily in early afternoon and require "power"naps to get back energy. I eat very healthy and exercise and deep breath do yoga yet still irreg heart. My hear pounds so hard it shakes my bed and you can see my stomach jump while lying still. I heard Dr. Nancy Sniderman had a show on ABC about a 16 yr old that had an arrythmia that could be set off by an alarm clock and her heart pounded fast and SHE DIED. Her parents were MD's. It was a genetic dissorder but I didnt catch the name . My Dr's want to treat me reactively by offering antidepressants and antianxiety drugs but I want to get to THE HEART OF THE MATTER. I want to be sure it is only anxiety before popping mind altering pills. Excuse me, medical world, for being overly concerned about taking drugs.....please email me with any help or point me to a good MD in Memphis TN.......thanks
In Reply to: Re: 24 yrs old with irreg hrtbeat posted by JEFF on March 29, 1998 at 23:48:22:
I thougfht the fast rate could be a fear of driving since it occured at same time same place and I have been in 2 pretty bad wrecks with soft tissue injury and questionable hailike fracture back in 1992, never had any health probs until after wreck but not sure if related..ALl my ekg's and stress test was normal BUT they say I do have an irregular hrtbeat and all americans do the difference is I can feel mine and others cant>???? This is a very popular arrythmia specialist in TN. Is that a fair statement cause it sounds like crap 2 me/
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by John on March 29, 1998 at 21:20:32:
Dear John,
Since costochondtitis nearly always has audible "clicking", and one would have to be a veritible "princess and the pea" to hear the clicking of any valvular problem (of which MVP is the least), I would bet that this is costochondritis.
Here is a good thing for you to know: If you look in the medical textbook about measles, you can find at least 20 symptoms commonly associated with measles. In 30+ years of practice I NEVER saw a case that had more than 6 of them. This is true of nearly any chronic condition you might look up. Costochondritis is but one of them. Just because you don't have every symptoms associated with that condition does not mean that you do not have it.
If you get Rolfed, your chest symptoms will go away for about a year or so. How will you explain that?
Since costochondritis is commonly associated with "difficulty breathing", and MVP NEVER is, how do you figure that?
YOUR SYMPTOMS ARE NOT FROM THE MVP. Any doc who tells you that your symptoms are from the MVP is one I would be afraid to go to for advice. Eventually, you will have to come to grips with that fact. I hope then you will begin to "see the forest for the trees" & start moving toward your own wellness.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by Walt Stoll on March 30, 1998 at 10:24:19:
Thank you very much Dr. Stoll. I understand what you mean now about the symptoms. Have you written any books on this subject? If so, what are the titles?
In the message you said, "If you get Rolfed, your chest symptoms will go away for about a year or so. How will you explain
that?"
What does "Rolfed" mean?
In Reply to: Re: Mitral Valve Prolapse posted by John on March 30, 1998 at 16:47:56:
Is the clicking and pain with costochondritis usually around the heart area?
What do you know about POTS? I have suffered from tachycardia for 11 years only to be told I was crazy. Well
in Dec. my cardiologist did an ablation, and things have not improved, I hear the tachycardia is a response to an autonomic disorder. Is there any help that you know of for this disorder?
Thank you for your time
In Reply to: Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia posted by Dorothy on March 20, 1998 at 20:00:33:
Dear Dorothy,
The ONLY thing that causes this is the exhaustion phase of the intolerable storage of stress-effect (fight or flight) in the hypothalamus. The ONLY thing reliably shown to resolve this is to discharge all this "readiness" in the hypothalamus. The only thing that has, so far, been shown capable os doing this is the practice of effective skilled relaxation at least 20 minutes twice a day (not counting any done within 2 hours of retiring). It will take 6-12 months to resolve it completely.
There are several ways to learn about this:
1. Go to this link for an introduction: Skilled Relaxation.
2. Then, if you want to know more in depth, get a copy of my book (link below).
3. THEN, if you want to know everything known about this causation, read one of the books referenced in the back of my book: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Salyer" by Dr Pelletier.
THEN, if you still have questions, write again. As you get well, I hope you will take the time to share your experiences with the rest of this BBs participants. It is not that this does not work but that the conventional medical monopoly makes a LOT more money treating the effects of this mechanism than teaching patients what they need to know to resolve it.
Walt
Dear Jeff,
First things first.
Did you know there is a book that was written about you?
Get a copy of "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier.
Also, use the search feature for this BB & read everything you can find about magnesium since this is at least contributing to your problem.
Have you tested your yoga effect with biofeedback?
Once you have a good understanding of this, you will be ready to choose the doc in your area who would have enough training to assist you on the spot.
Walt
Dear Jeff,
Look out for "popular arrhythmia specialists". First of all, what you have is a dysrrhythmia. If the doc doesn't even know that, why are you paying HIM money????!!!
You are right that this is "crap". Healthy Americans do not have dysrrhythmias. However, Thomas Merton, at the turn of the century, looked for 10 years in the vain attempt to find just ONE healthy person. He failed.
Your poor doc may be right in that lots of adult men have dysrrhythmias. That is NOT "normal" but a sad commentary on the declining general health of our adult population.
Since we docs make more money the sicker you are, what is to stop us from just waiting til you are really sick before doing anything about the early warning signs of advancing crises?
Walt