I have Mitral Valve Prolapse. I lift weights 5 days a week.
After my Spring college semester came to a close, I stopped
lifting weights and didn't get any exercise because I was
too bus with finals. For two weeks after college finished,
I remained sedentary and the MVP symptoms grew worse.
I realized that when I did lift weights (at about noon),
I really wouldn't have symptoms. I began lifting again
and I began taking the anabolic steroid Dianabol (anabol).
The funny thing is that I took 10mg (2 pills) of Anabol
on a monday night and woke up feeling great. My heart was
beating strong (where it would usually be weak until I
started lifting weights). I took 40mg every day and I felt great! The symptoms were gone! I'm now down to 10mg a day
and I still feel good. No symptoms.
I also notice that when I take Melatonin at night, the sypmtoms for the next day will be slightly greater.
For me, I just have to get my heart pumping strong in
the morining with aerbics and I will have less to no
symptoms at all (I discovered this before taking Anabol).
Is it possible that substances like Anabol could benefit
MVP paitients? I don't reccomend that anyone try this out.
Please don't; my case may be an isolated one and steroids usually have a negative effect on the heart if misused.
David
In Reply to: Anabolic Steroids and MVP posted by David on July 19, 1998 at 06:20:11:
Dear David,
THERE ARE NO SYMPTOMS FROM MVP!!!!!!!!!
I know that you do not want to believe that but the truth will come out in less than 10 years. The causes of MVP cause the symptoms. You can get rid of the MVP surgically and the symptoms persist. Get rid of the causes and, though the MVP is still there, all of the symptoms are gone.
Your weight lifting helps the symptoms because it helps discharge some of the causes temporarily.
MVP is a FAD diagnosis that will not be heard 20 years from now. When you are ready to actually move beyond this self-serving diagnosis (by the docs who make it to get your complaints off their backs) go to the FAQ link on this page & read about MVP. Then, if you are still interested in going beyond your present impasse, read a book that was written about you: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier---the most recent edition is best and is available in any library & bookstore.
THEN, if you still have questions, write again.
Anabolic steroids are NEVER a good idea. Those people who already have symptoms for any reason will likely see them worsen with these drugs.
Walt
Dear Dr. Stoll,
I have come to find out I have MVP due to palpitations and pain in chest. I have read what you have said about finding out the causes of the symptoms. I would love to find out the causes and correct them. I am a 53 year old woman that started having symptoms about 7 mos. ago. Do you know anyone who could help me? I live in Chicago on the North side near Lake Michigan. I would like someone in my area if possible. Please help! Thank You very much.
Sincerely,
Dale
In Reply to: Causes of symptoms in Mitral Valve Prolapse ? posted by Dale on July 20, 1998 at 18:23:11:
Dear Dale,
During this time of rapidly accumulating data about chronic conditions, there is a very wide difference between even physicians trying their best to learn how to think in more productive ways. Therefore, YOU need to become enough of an expert in this to be able to judge which physician you are willing to see.
That takes knowledge and study. SO, I would first suggest you read my book and one of the references in the back: "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier (the most recent edition). THEN, I would read anything by William Crook, MD, Sherry Rogers, MD or Doris Rapp, MD about candida-related syndrome since at least in MY experience it is what actually caused the prolapse. All the rest is for you to understand WHY you became susceptible to the C-RS. Both the causes and the C-RS are what are causing your symptoms-----NOT the MVP.
Once you are armed with this understanding, call (800) 286-6013 for the list of physicians in your part of the country who would at least be worth calling. Few will have the depth of understanding discussed on this website but they will at least have an open mind & work with what you know.
Let us know what you learn. If you have more questions about the above, write again. As you get well, please share your experiences with the BB participants. Your experience will help others realize that they do not have to suffer with this stuff.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Causes of symptoms in Mitral Valve Prolapse ? posted by Walt Stoll on July 21, 1998 at 13:12:50:
Dr. Stoll,
Thank you so much! I now have a place to start that makes sense. I was all over the place getting confused. I do have another question. Are pharmaceutical based vitamins better than food based vitamins? And why? I always thought the closer to food the better,other than calcium contaminated with lead,etc. I value your opinion!
Sincerely,
Dale
In Reply to: Re: Causes of symptoms in Mitral Valve Prolapse ? posted by Dale on July 21, 1998 at 13:48:02:
Dear Dale,
I think I responded to htis question yesterday. If it did not get through, let me know.
In the meantime, if you know anything aobut Kirlian Photography, you would be interested in knowing that all natural based nutrients have a big flaming aura while artificially created molecules (that the pharmaceutical companies insist are the same as the "natural") have NONE.
Since we have measurable auras, I tend to want the substances with auras inside me.
Walt
Dr. Stoll,
Why do you think mitral valve prolapse is more common in women than men? Given your theory of candida related syndrome somehow causing mitral valve prolapse, this piqued my curiosity. Is candida more common in women, or is there perhaps something about the heart valve of females that would make it more susceptible to candida somehow??
Thanks,
Sarah
In Reply to: mitral valve prolapse/candida posted by sarah on July 22, 1998 at 20:21:08:
Dear Sarah,
Candida IS more common in women than in men.
It has been my OBSERVATION that all cases of MVP who were competently evaluated HAD C-RS and when the C-RS was competently treated all of the symptoms that had been formerly ascribed to the MVP went away--while the MVP lesion was still there.
I am still looking for a better explanation for that observation. That is ALL it is. It is not a theory. Until a better explanation comes along, though, if I had MVP the first thing I would do would be go to a competent candida professional.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse/candida posted by Walt Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 14:56:19:
I have been toying with the possibility that MVP may also be hormone related. I, for the most part don't have any problems with candida but I recently experienced an extreme increase in my MVP (syndrome) symptoms. They just became worse for no apparant reason. My recent echo proved no further prolapse or leakage in my heart since 1993. I have had to begin taking a beta blocker just to get through the day free of PVCs and PACs. I have noticed since I began my meds a major relief, BUT now I am PMSing and the symptoms are returning (but much milder). This is a very scary and frustrating syndrome, it affects my energy, concentration, memory, muscles, joints, tendons, bowels, and anything else to do with my autonomic nervous system. I strongly agree with you, Dr. Stoll that we have to find out what CAUSES/CAUSED this. My biggest fear is Ventricular Arrythmia and sudden death. I know this is rare, but sometimes I feel like it's going to happen to me. Thanks for the great site and for your prompt responses.
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse/candida posted by Walt Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 14:56:19:
I forgot to tell you, when I started Progesterone cream for PMS symptoms I noticed a decline in my MVPS symptoms. I went off the progesterone because my period was REALLY BAD and I was afraid the cream may have caused it. Since I went off the cream is when all of these symptoms have started. This was about a month ago and I'm considering starting back on it to see what happens. What I mean by a really bad period is: there was no PMS :~) BUT, when my flow started it was thick and clotty and the cramps were unbearable, this is rare for me. Any relation in both cases? Thanks
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse/candida posted by Anissa on July 30, 1998 at 08:01:03:
Dear Anissa,
It is really hard to convince people but I say it here again:
MVP HAS NO SYMPTOMS!!!!! All of the symptoms ascribed to MVP are caused by the CAUSES of MVP.
One could surgicaly correct the MVP and the symptoms would still be there! Get rid of the causes & the symptoms disappear even though the MVP is still there!
Your dysrrhythmia is NOT caused by the MVP! The most likely cause is an intracellular magnesium deficiency. Go to the archives & read everything you can find about atrial fibrillation (since all dysrrhythmias are greatly influenced by this very common condition). What will your poor doc say when your dysrrhythmias disappear and the MVP is still there (sigh)?
Lots of people have NO symptoms from their candida till something breaks (like your mitral valve, for example). You may have no other symptoms. By the way, PMS is mostly caused by candida and ITS causes.
You need to learn a LOT more about dysautonomia and candida. Read "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer" by Dr Pelletier and anything about candida.
THEN, when you have the above information under your belt, please ask any more questions you may have. As you get well, I hope you will share your experiences with the BB participants. What you are experiencing is TOTALLY unnecessary.
One of the most common ways the candida effects the entire system is via hormones!
Walt
In Reply to: Re: mitral valve prolapse/candida Forgot one thing posted by Anissa on July 30, 1998 at 09:39:07:
Dear Anissa,
For someone with "no symptoms of candida-related syndrome", you certainly have a lot of them. The most common cause of THESE symptoms is C-RS.
Walt
I am interested in beginning a juice fast in hopes of jump-starting a healing process for my Mitral Valve Prolapse and Dysautonomia. However, I am concerned with effects this may have on my blood sugar levels. I plan to juice ONLY vegetables and lemon will be my only fruit with the gradual addition of grapefruit. I am a firm believer in juice fasting since it makes sense that for the body to heal the energy needs to be directed to the proper places and not concentrated in the digestive process. I also believe in the nutritional value of fresh vegetable juices. I am not a heavy eater currently so I feel comfortable starting one right away without the usually tapering down to salads etc. I have fasted for two days before without a problem, but I have a feeling this will be long one. I also believe 100% I can heal my valve and it's "strings" with the proper nutrition and supplementation. Many MDs laugh at me when I tell them this belief and I don't understand how they can be so arrogant. The tissues in the heart are similar to connective tissue, right? If so, can't silica, collagen, glucosamine sulfate help? I understand the syndrome is a result of other underlying causes and I am determined to get to the bottom of those. This is why the juice fast. Could you please help me find a good therapist for enzyme therapy also.