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We know so little about so much - it's dangerous even try to be healthy. We should just forget about it.
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
this is a great article and very helpful - thanks for putting it on this site.
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
fish oil is the answer. there are some who think ALL seed oils are unnatural, since for the majority of our evolution, we had no way to squeeze oil out of seeds.
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
Good article, it burst my bubble though. I am a newcomer to flax oil and have noticed much improvement in the time I've taken it. The article does tout it's effectiveness but at the same time, says it's action is much like drugs; toxic in the long run, etc.
It also states that flax is best taken in the form of freshly ground up seeds but states that they are not to be eaten raw because of high toxicity. I have been thinking about starting on Perfect Food from Garden of Life. However, it has flaxseed in it. I'm wondering if these seeds are cooked. If they are not, then this product would actually be bad for you taken long term. Do any of you know anything about it?
Geez!!!!!!!!!!! What to do!!!!!!! ????? Then, how are we supposed to be sure we have an adequate intake of omega 3's in the appropriate balance.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Carol on May 01, 2003 at 12:49:50:
Perfect food has a fairly small amount of flax seed in it. It is also, fermented or partially digested so it is assimilated better.
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
I've read quite a bit on the fact that many raw seeds and nuts have substances on them that inhibit the enzymes in your body, and in great quantity those substances can be harmful. BUT - all of the study on this that I've done has come up with several sources stating that either soaking and then rinsing the seeds/nuts, or cooking them, REMOVES those harmful substances. So, if this is what is referred to by those who say that flax seeds are harmful, there is a solution. I personally began soaking my seeds overnight and then rinsing them in a fine strainer. Doing it in bulk I can then store them in the fridge for several days. If I need to store them longer after this soaking process, I then freeze them. Ah, things might not be so bad after all!
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by peterb on May 01, 2003 at 12:24:41:
Do you have strong evidence that suggests that for most of our evolution humans squeezed oil out of fish?
In Reply to: Wait - I HAVE heard of a way to make the seeds harmless posted by M.L. on May 01, 2003 at 18:28:00:
Although you are right, and this works to a great extent, it never removes 100% of the anti-nutrients. This is why a diet high in grains, legumes, nuts, and seeds, even if prepared properly, is not healthy for most people. Fortunately, most people do not eat these foods exclusively. However, you are right that eating the flax this way will lower the dangers some (but not all)
-HY
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 01, 2003 at 18:47:41:
I see your point R but think about this - The amount of fish oil that we supplement, could EASILY be obtained from a few servings of fish per week. So, in that way, taking fish oil does coincide with the evolutionary diet. However, when we consume nut and seed oils, we are consuming them doses that are not physiologically possible from food. These doses are "drug-like" in a way do to their high concentrations. These oils are found naturally in the nuts and seeds but we could not possibly eat enough of them to obtain that much of the oil.
-HY
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
To me, this makes perfect sense. Flax oil is essentially polyunsaturated oil, meaning that it oxidizes very quickly. Also, taking it this way provides concentrations far higher than could be obtained from a modest serving of flax seeds. Always remember that just because something is unrefined, does not mean it is necessarily healthy in LARGE amounts. The foods meant to be eaten in large amounts, for most people, are vegetables and animal proteins. Legumes, nuts, seeds, grains, and even fruits are meant to be taken in smaller quantities.
It's not that we should give up searching for ways to optimal health. We just have to be careful in our research to uncover any possible corporate agendas, personal agendas, or other possible biases that could lead to false truthes. Does the fact that Concord Grape Juice funded a study showing that drinking grape juice prevented heart attacks raise an eyebrow on anybody's face? It should. Always check who funded the study or who wrote the article in question before making a sound judgement. If you do, you will discover that many of these so-called "contradictions" are not true contradictions. On one hand, you have legitimate research shining a light on a piece of human nutrition. On the other hand, you have agenda-based lies that have pre-determined outcomes to make a profit. You can spot the difference if you know how.
-HY
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
What about the use of flax oil for acne ? Unfortunately the article doesn't talk about this. For me, flax oil helps greatly for acne.
I also have low cholesteral (143) shortly after taking flax oil 2 years ago. I wonder if my taking flax has lowered it even more ? Maybe I should get tested again.
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
I'm a living testament to this article. At one point in my life I experimented with very high dosages of flaxseed oil up to 4 tablespoons a day. At first such a protocol gave me benefits, however it was not long before my health began to degrade. My metabolism switched intyo hyper mode and I lost a lot of weight ( I was a competitive athlete at the time and if anything needed to gain weight). My blood thinned and lethargy took hold of me.
Obtaining the benefits of flaxseed by eating it in its whole form (ground up seeds) seems to me a much smarter choice than supplementing with the oil.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Helping You on May 01, 2003 at 19:24:30:
I am not so sure. I don't have a label for nuts handy, but I remember seeing LOTS of fat in nuts (one serving). I wouldn't be surprised if you could get tablespoons of fat (oil) in amounts of nuts and seeds that some people eat normally.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Roy on May 01, 2003 at 21:47:02:
I also have low cholesteral (143) shortly after taking flax oil 2 years ago. I wonder if my taking flax has lowered it even more ?
Oh, you think it's a good thing? Read
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Helping You on May 01, 2003 at 19:32:15:
Thanks HY (and everyone else!)
I thought you would already know a lot about this. As it turns out things are not as bad as I thought. I am now thinking of not taking any supplements whatsoever if it is not a whole food (flax seed oil is not a whole food as the seed is not there). I think that will do the trick. Also, I am going to start growing my own vegetables organically.
I will be healthy if it kills me!
Thanks all.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Helping You on May 01, 2003 at 19:32:15:
Helping You, is there any point in taking fish oil? After all, it is not whole in the form of oil is it? And, no doubt God didn't intend that we get it like that, we are supposed to eat the fish.
What concerns me is that, in the light of the excellent article posted, what don't we know about taking fish oil that we should know. If there is anything like that you can bet it points to the fact that we should not be eating oils on their own without the animal/vegetable/seed that produces it.
Regards,
Maz
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
Dr. Stoll, what do you think? Didn't you say that you can't overdose on EFA's?
Haven't you been taking flax oil for year's without adverse effects?
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 01, 2003 at 18:47:41:
sure, with every bite.
:)
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 02, 2003 at 02:22:05:
Ok, lets say for argument sake that you are correct. Still, nuts and seeds were a real pain to unhull and eat. Most likely, we still didn't eat a lot of them. It would be like eating 30 oranges a day. Even though they are available, that's not something we want to do. I still believe that the only foods meant to be eaten in relatively large quantities are meats/fish and vegetables. All other foods are snacks.
-HY
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Maz on May 02, 2003 at 04:41:48:
Well, I can say that fish oils are among the most highly researched nutritional supplements available. The studies have all shown consistant reliable results in interfering with disease processes and promoting health.
As far as consuming the oil without the protein goes, proteins can be gotten from other sources like grass-fed meats, which is similar in composition to fish. Our need for fish oil is only a NEED due to the fact that most fish on our planet are now vastly contaminated. If it weren't for that fact, I would be recommending the fish and only the oils to those that cannot tolerate fish. I believe that taking fish oil is one of the few exceptions to the "isolated supplement" rule. But again, ANY isolated nutrient can help if that nutrient is not being made by the body, is deficient, or is not being absorbed by the person. The point is, regarding isolated supplements, is that they have to be used wisely. Taking whole food supplements requires no thinking. But with isolated supplements, care must be taken in order to keep the body in homeostasis. Only homeostasis can allow for optimal health. So, it's not that I am saying isolated supplements are bad. I am merely saying that isolated supplements are like drugs, and must be taken with care. Testing, whenever possible, is always recommended when taking isolated supplements, especially high doses. I hope that helps somewhat
-HY
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Helping You on May 02, 2003 at 10:25:26:
Perhaps, although, we're just speculating. Nevertheless, I my personal physiology seems to agree with what you said. Animal foods and vegies seem the best food for me. It appears that I don't handle nuts very well. I think I've been able to handle some breads better. Maybe it's just this particular bread or maybe it's due to my drinking brine that is used to ferment cucumbers. I keep experimenting.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by peterb on May 02, 2003 at 09:44:57:
This appies to nuts and seeds too. They are full of fat. Possibly more even then fish... at least some fish. And some nuts (walnuts, for example) are pretty easy to crack open to allow binging.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 02, 2003 at 02:27:11:
Sorry for the misunderstanding, R.
Maybe I should have said I have *too* low cholesteral level - I wish it was about 50 points higher. I also suffer from depression and have a very low DHEA level (I forget the level , but it's the same as an average 75 year old man's - I'm 41).
I have read Mercola's site on this, and I agree with the link between low cholesteral, low DHEA, and depression, not to mention the link to other health problems. Mercola himself suffers from low chol, - unfortunately he doesn't have too many suggestions on how to increase it.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 02, 2003 at 17:09:32:
R
why cant you handle nuts? what reaction do you get?
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Helping You on May 02, 2003 at 10:31:38:
Mercola offers Alaskan salmon that is supposedly mercury-free or as close to it as you're gonna find.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Nutty on May 02, 2003 at 20:23:18:
GI distress and skin breakouts. But... I have not soaked and roasted them yet. Those that I've eaten were purchased from a store and were either raw or roasted. Or nut butter. I doubt they have been soaked. I might try soaking them some time.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Roy on May 02, 2003 at 17:51:01:
If I remember correctly, he has improved it when he, based on his metabolic type, started to consume raw fat. Verify this.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Maz on May 02, 2003 at 04:41:48:
It's easy to delude yourself when you start imagining what God intended, provided that he/she/it exists and intended anything. For example, some people are confident that milk is for babies, and adults should not drink milk. Moreover, they say that cow's milk is for calves (similarly for other animals). At the same time, you can find people who thrive on milk and milk products.
Another example: some say that eating flesh is unnatural and humans should eat only plants. Yet, others say that only fruits should be eaten. Some say "all raw", while others find partly cooked is best. See my point? Practice rules, so to speak!
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 03, 2003 at 01:51:37:
Thanks R. His cholesterol level was worse (lower) than mine, and he did improve it somewhat, but I couldn't find any details on his site that describe how he did this. It's been several months since I did that research on his site, so maybe he's added something on it -although I subscribe to his newsletters and he hasn't mentioned it.
I know he's a big proponent of the Metabolic Typing book. I'm thinking of purchasing it.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Roy on May 03, 2003 at 03:26:27:
Yeah, he didn't say much.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Carol on May 02, 2003 at 09:40:06:
Hi, Carol.
It is possible to overdose on air, water, feathers, etc. Any REASONABLE dose of EFAs us safe. That means anything that is not in excess of 20 times the therapeutic dose mentioned on the home page.
My wife and I have been on 2000 milligerams of flax oil twice a day for years.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Roy on May 02, 2003 at 20:43:09:
Yes, that's true. That could vastly help for those that want to stay more "natural". However, it is only one type of fish so you would have to eat it 2-3x per week to get the benefits. I don't know about you, but I would get a little sick of salmon after a month :-) If more varieties of certified contaminant-free fish become available, THEN I would be making the switch to fish instead of fish oil. Thanks for the post
-HY
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 02, 2003 at 17:09:32:
I'm the same way. I still need a small amount of starch in the form of sourdough/sproute-grain breads or maybe some sweet potatoes but that's about it. I can eat a small amount of nuts. I never use the oils because I am too busy using coconut oil and olive oil :-) As you've said, it DOES come down to personal requirements but I think we will eventually find a general trend towards meat/fish/vegetables being the primary foods for most humans with grains/nuts/seeds/legumes rounding the diet out in various quantities based on individual biochemistries. We will have to wait it out and see :-)
-HY
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 02, 2003 at 17:11:15:
wouldn't it be a question of access to the food that determines how it has impacted our biology? If you think about it, nuts are much easier to eat in volume than seeds, and, for humans with access to lakes and coastal areas, fish no doubt became the main source of protein. I doubt too many humans of past epochs consumed more than small amounts of seed, if any, for several reasons: 1) collecting seeds in volume is difficult; 2) seeds don't afford much payoff for animals our size; and 3) some seeds are downright difficult to do anything with. As for nuts, raw cashews are my breakfast 4-5 days a week.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Walt Stoll on May 03, 2003 at 09:44:29:
My wife and I have been on 2000 milligerams of flax oil twice a day for years.
Well, your wife is not exactly a picture of perfect health, is she?
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
This article gives further evidence that processed products should be avoided, and whole foods are the way to go.
For instance, if one uses flax seed instead of its oil, it's difficult to have an "overdose," because when the seeds are ground into a meal, it doubles in volume, and therefore almost impossible to eat too much of it.
If one HAS to use flax seeds, the best way is to grind it right before eating. (In my humble opinion, ALL seeds/nuts/grains/beans should be eaten this way for optimal freshness.)
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 03, 2003 at 02:04:30:
Thanks, R.
Much of what you have said here depends a lot upon your definition of the word "thrive". Since it takes 30-40 years for many stressors to show up as chronic disease, it has taken until the computer age to even begin to evaluate these things.
I think that even national statistics are indicating that very few of us have been thriving on what we currently take as "normal".
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by R. on May 03, 2003 at 19:27:56:
No, R.
However the reason she started it was because her arthritis was hurting her. It got a lot less painful within a few weeks of starting the omega 3s and she has continued them since (If you knew her you would be impressed that they must have helped her or she would not be still taking them.)
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Walt Stoll on May 04, 2003 at 06:55:35:
A friend mentioned that regular flax oil can deplete vitamin E storage in the body.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Flax on May 04, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Most likely because it's chemically unstable, and more Vitamin E is used up to neutralize free radicals that are produce when the oil is oxidized.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Walt Stoll on May 04, 2003 at 06:55:35:
Ah, she finally tried something that is not a pill prescribed by an MD! Perhaps, MSM could be next?
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by R. on May 04, 2003 at 17:59:50:
Yeah, there are even supplements of flax seed oil which incorporate vit E in their product to compensate for this very fact. Not sure I want to take flax seed oil after hearing this, as I am a fast oxidiser type, and the flax would just add to the unstable free radicals. :)
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 03, 2003 at 01:49:04:
I eat a ton of nuts R
and my skin is also acne prone.
I bet it will make a diff. once
you soak and bake them.
Thats how I have been
doing it, and havent noticed
a predominant worsening of my
skin because of it.
Actually
I have had a few more breakouts than usual
maybe its related to the nuts, but everything
seeems to have settled down again, and I have
been eating this many for a few months, and my
skin has been clearing, except for the last week
or so.
I eat about 30 nuts a day, R.
Yeah, you read that right! 30!
I am obsessed! lol
But its definitely helping me hold my weight.
Probably not such a good idea to eat so many tho.
I will have to show some self control! YEAH, AS IF!!! :)
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by Miss Bliss on May 05, 2003 at 05:42:39:
What kind of nuts do you eat? There've been times when I ate them by 1 lb bags. I especially like filberts and cachews. It would be cool to eat half a pound now. And the rest a little later :) It would also be cool if self-control could be bought like nuts. I'd snack on it throughout the day. Damn it, no nuts, no self-control, no nothing... Life sucks. At least I've found a place where I can download all the music I want for free. So, I am sitting here and downloading Depeche Mode.
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sig posted by R. on May 05, 2003 at 06:37:30:
R
I love depeche Mode!They were so hot in the 80's. That was my "growing" up era. Remember the big hair, too much make up (well, maybe you dont remember that part.lol), shoulder pads. Looking back at the fashion, wow, what a hoot! But the music back then was the bomb! I have so many CD's from the 80s, and videos. Like Breakfast Club, pretty in Pink, St Elmos Fire, Ferris Buellers Day Off etc. Can you tell I am still stuck in the 80s! lol
The nuts I eat, are, well everything. I soak and bake cashews, pecans, almonds, walnuts, sometimes cashews. Actually YOU are the one who put me onto the soaking and baking technique, Remember?
The pecans are the best. They turn out real nice and buttery when you crunch into them. I gues you may be getting the GI from them not digesting well, due to the anti nutrients, maybe?
I find it very hard to beleive that the mighty R. would not have good self control. Maybe blissy, but not master R. :)
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Flax. on May 04, 2003 at 20:03:16:
Hi, Flax.
This reminds me of the advertizing ploy about 70 years ago. Pink salmon was the standard and a company came along with white salmon. No one would buy it until they began putting on the lable that "their salmon would not turn pink in the can". Even though that was only the unvarnished truth, it suddenly made white salmon competitive.
The vitamin E that is placed in nearly all EFA products is placed there as a preservative and has nothing to do with what happens once the EFAs are inside the body.
It IS important to keep your EFAs in the refrigerator because these delicate oils oxidize easily. Most good ones are sealed in nitrogen to prevent this from happening, Once opened, however, that protection is gone. Vitamin E is a powerful, fat soluble antioxident (perfect for the fats in the bottle--a totally non-toxic preservative).
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by R. on May 04, 2003 at 18:00:56:
Yes, R.
But I AM an MD. She needs an MD that she is not married to :o).
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Walt Stoll on May 04, 2003 at 06:55:35:
I read, aproximately a year ago, that coconut oil is basicly a "poison". I don't like if someone who wants to sell something attacks other product. Let people to decide what works for them, or search for the answers some place ealse.
Personally, I took the flax oil with very good result for a few years, but I have to admitt that not all brands were my favorites.
Matylda
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? posted by Matylda on May 05, 2003 at 21:11:37:
Thanks, Matylda.
You will notice that I have never recommended coconut oil.
Walt
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
My personnal experience with flax seed oil was bad. About 3 years ago, I tried 2 different brands of flax seed oil and they both increased a lot my joint pains.
My personnal belief is that, like so many other things, flax seed oil could probably be good for one kind of genetic individuality and metabolism but not for an other, opposite one.
Specific enzymes (D6D, D5D, D4D, etc) are needed to convert ALA in flax seed oil into usefull elongated omega 3 fatty acid, mainly EPA and DHA. We don't all have these enzymes in sufficient quantities.
I would even gess, logically, that Hunter-gatherers will not thrive on flax seed oil while Agriculturist types might do.
Serge
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2003 at 07:05:18:
It IS important to keep your EFAs in the refrigerator because these delicate oils oxidize easily. Most good ones are sealed in nitrogen to prevent this from happening, Once opened, however, that protection is gone.
So does that include flax seed capsules also have to be refrigerated, Walt?
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Flax on May 17, 2003 at 20:09:16:
Hi, Flax.
Yep. However, while it is still in the living seed it does not spoil.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on May 05, 2003 at 07:05:18:
Walt,
My flax oil in the bottle doesnt have any vit. e in it to protect against this oxidation. Should I take a vit e capsule along with the flax oil? I am not sure if its sealed in nitrogen to protect against oxidation.
Plus mine says chemical free, but not organic. Is that a big deal?
In Reply to: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by fatso on May 01, 2003 at 08:15:03:
Walt,
I read your response to this, but I was wondering if you care to comment further on this article please, specifically on the free radical damage that it claims caused by flaxseed oil?
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Flax on June 04, 2003 at 06:04:02:
thought i should tell u that my vit e is 1000mg
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Flax on June 04, 2003 at 06:04:02:
Hi, Flax.
See my previous note today about Flax.
The vitamin E acts, inside the bottle, to prevent oxydation of the oil. Taking it internally will also help but a little late. It is like lockiung the barn door after the horse has been stolen. Personally I prefer the manufacturer to add a little vitamin E to the product.
"Chemical free but not organic"? I do not know what that means. My idea about organic means free of chemicals.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - why don't we all just give up this health lark ....sigh. posted by Maria on June 04, 2003 at 06:31:12:
Maria,
It is the rancidity that causes free radical damage. No one should be taking anything rancid.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on June 05, 2003 at 07:35:19:
Thanks, Walt
I read the bottle, and it says no pesticides, weedicides and fungicide free. So I dont know what the woman at the health food store was talking about when she said it wasnt organic, but it was chemical free. Maybe she just wanted me to buy the more expensive one.
Oh, btw, the bottle also says :
"A study of recent literature recommends that we should also take vit e (anti-oxidant) on consuming oils rich in Omega 3 and 6 fatty acids".
In Reply to: Re: The Fact About Flax - Dr. Stoll ???? Your input? (Archive in EFAs.) posted by Flax on June 05, 2003 at 08:41:50:
Thanks, Flax.
In my opinion, everyone should be taking at least 400 units of mixed tocopherols vitamin E daily anyhow. The vitamin E/ oils connection is inside the bottle and not inside the person. See my note yesterday about this.
Walt
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