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Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

Strontium is a mineral that is being used in Europe to treat osteoporosis. Why isn't is being used here? Because it can't be patented! No money to be made. It builds bone density!

I found a great website--National Osteoporosis Foundation. People wrote in their success stories in treating their osteo without drugs. Exciting stories. I'm going to add that to the Cal Apatite with Boron arsenal.

I have yet to be able to add a link successfully here--sorry. But I found it by googling "osteoporosis success stories".

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:35:11:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:


Let's see if this works.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Jayne [10093.9122] on September 24, 2010 at 19:36:30:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

good find, Ellen!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by PhillyLady [10299.8985] on September 24, 2010 at 22:44:06:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

Ellen:

Strontium is easily available in the U.S. I use the Grow Bone system from Garden of Life/Vitamin Code, which contains strontium.

You can also get strontium by itself. Swanson Vitamins is one place where you can get strontium. There are other supplement companies as well that sell it.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 24, 2010 at 23:33:57:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

Ellen, are you removing the http:// that is preprinted on the option url line before pasting your url?
Then just give it a link title.
That's it.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:05:14:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 24, 2010 at 23:33:57:

I did remove the "http:". Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Sorry.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:07:09:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by PhillyLady [10299.8985] on September 24, 2010 at 22:44:06:

I'm buying Doctor's Best Strontium. It really pisses me off that Drs don't suggest Strontium.

Bet Dr Walt will have 2 cents to add... :)

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PRUNES!

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:09:29:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by PhillyLady [10299.8985] on September 24, 2010 at 22:44:06:

Do you have osteopenia or osteoporosis?

Do you know about prunes?! There was a study done by a Dr and he found people had good success when they ate 10 prunes a day. I'm going to incorporate that into my routine.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 07:42:47:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:07:09:

Thanks, Ellen.

I wonder how long this takes to work?

Walt

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 11:37:17:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 07:42:47:

I dont know how long it takes to work. Due to my piss-poor bmd exam, I don't have to wait 2 years, I get to have it in 1 year. I'm frustrated by my inability to add the link. It's my fault, due to being a non-tech. I'm doing the rebounder, Cal Apatite, working out with weights and will add 10 prunes per day--thanks to Dr Arjmandi's research.

And gleaned from Dr William Davis protocol, I'm increasing my D3 and just ordered K2.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 13:06:05:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 11:37:17:

Thanks, Ellen.

Sounds like a pretty good program to me. Perhaps, 50 years from now, we will have at least an inkling as to whether or not strontium is helpful in this condition.

Walt

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 13:23:36:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 11:37:17:

Ellen I hate to burst your bubble but Dr. Duke doesn't show ANY biological activities for strontium, however he does show plums to be very active against osteo. Isn't that about the same amount of activity as soybeans and almonds have?

When I have time I will look through the chemicals and see which ones he says have the activity.

Antiosteoporotic 3 mg/man/day 500 mg/day 500-1,000 mg/day/wmn/orl 500-2,000 mg/day

STRONTIUM Fruit 0.33 - 51 ppm
No activity reported.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 13:25:12:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 13:06:05:

If you google strontium and check out the wikipedia posting, you'll see that the benefits of strontium on bone density was discovered in the 1950s.

I'm surprised that not more women are interested in this posting.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 13:28:55:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 13:25:12:

Thanks, Ellen.

What I remember from the 1950's papers on strontium was the danger associated with radioactivity in milk products due to "fall out". Why are they not talking about that mow?

Walt

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 13:36:54:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

ASCORBIC-ACID Fruit 86 - 699 ppm
Acidulant FEMA 6,000; Aldose-Reductase-Inhibitor; Analgesic 5-10 g/day; Angiotensin-Receptor-Blocker; AntiAGE 2,000 mg/day; Antiaggregant; Antiaging 400 mg/day; Antiallergic; Antialzheimeran 2,000-6,000 mg/day; Antiarthritic 0.2-1 g/day; Antiasthmatic 1,000 mg/day; Antiatherosclerotic; Antibacterial; Anticataract 1 g 3x/day 350 mg/day 400 mg/day; Anticervicaldysplasic 1,000-2,000 mg/day; AntiCFS 500-1,000 mg; Anticlimacteric 500-5,000 mg/day; Anticold 1-2 g/man/day; AntiCrohn's 50-100 mg/day/orl/man; AntiCTS 1,000 mg 3x/day; Antidecubitic 500 mg/man/2x/day; Antidementia; Antidepressant 2,000 mg/day; Antidiabetic; Antidote (Aluminum); Antidote (Cadmium); Antidote (Lead); Antidote (Paraquat); Antieczemic 3.5-5 g/day; Antiedemic 1 g/man/day; Antiencephalitic; Antiendometriotic 2,000 mg/day; Antifatigue 500-1,000 mg; Antifibrotic 1,000-2,000 mg; Antigallstone 1,000-3,000 mg/day; Antigastritic; Antigingivitic; Antiglaucomic 2 g/day; Antihangover 1,000 mg; Antihemorrhagic 1 g/man/day; Antihepatitic 2-6 g/man/day; Antihepatotoxic; Antiherpetic 1-5 g/day; Antihistaminic 2 g/day orl man; Antihypertensive; Antiinfertility 1 g/day; Antiinflammatory; Antilepric 1.5 g/man/day; Antilithic 1,000-3,000 mg/day; AntiLyme 500-2,000 mg; Antimaculitic; Antimeasles; Antimenopausal 500-5,000 mg/day; Antimigraine; Antimutagenic; Antineuramidase; Antinitrosic 1 g/man/day; Antiobesity 1 g 3x/day; Antiorchitic; Antiosteoarthritic 1 g 2x/day; Antiosteoporotic 500 mg/day; Antioxidant 100 ppm; Antiparkinsonian 1 g 2-3x/day; Antiparotitic; Antiperiodontitic 1 g 2x/day; Antipneumonic; Antipodriac; Antipoliomyelitic; Antipyretic; Antiradicular; AntiRaynaud's 500 mg 1-2x/day; Antiretinotic; Antirheumatic; Antirhinitic 1,000 mg 3x/day; Antiscorbutic 10 mg/man/day; Antiseptic 4-8 g/day MIC=3.3-217 mg/ml; Antishingles; Antispasmodic 500-5,000 mg/day; Antistress 500-1,000 mg; Antisyndrome-X 1-4 g/day; Antitumor (Gastric); Antitumor (Lung); Antiulcer; Antiviral 1-5 g/day; Apoptotic 1-10 mM; Asthma-preventive 1,000 mg/day/orl; Beta-Adrenergic Receptor Blocker; Beta-Glucuronidase-Inhibitor 1.5 g/day/man; Calcium-Antagonist; Cancer-Preventive; Cardioprotective; Cold-preventive 1-2 g/day; Collagenic; Detoxicant; Diuretic 700 mg/man/orl; Fistula-Preventive; Hypocholesterolemic 300-1,000 mg/day; Hypoglycemic; Hypotensive 1,000 mg/man/day; Immunomodulator; Immunostimulant; Interferonogenic; Lithogenic; Mucolytic 1 g/woman/day; Pesticide; Uricosuric 4 g/man/day; Urinary-Acidulant; Vasodilator; Vulnerary
BORON Fruit 1 - 255 ppm
Androgenic 3 mg/man/day; Antiosteoarthritic; Antiosteoporotic; Estrogenic
CALCIUM Fruit 38 - 2,040 ppm
Antiallergic 500 mg/day; Antianxiety; Antiarrhythmic 500-1,500 mg; Antiarthritic 1,000 mg/day; Antiatherosclerotic 500 mg/day; Anticlimacteric 1,000-1,500 mg/day; Antidepressant; Antidote (Aluminum); Antidote (Lead); Antihyperkinetic; Antihypertensive; Antiinsomniac; Antimenopausal; Antiobesity; Antiosteoporotic 500-2,000 mg/day; Antiperiodontitic 750 mg/day; AntiPMS 1 g/day; Antirheumatic 1,000 mg/day; Antistress 500-1,500 mg/day; Antitic; Anxiolytic; Calcium-Channel-Blocker; Diuretic; Hypocholesterolemic 500 mg/day; Hypotensive 1 g/day; Laxative 1,000-1,200 mg; Tranquilizer 500-1,500 mg/day; Vasodilator
COPPER Fruit 0.33 - 34 ppm
Antianemic; Antiarthritic; Antidiabetic 2-4 mg/day; Antifatigue; Antiinflammatory; Antinociceptive; Antiosteoporotic; Cardioprotective; Contraceptive; Hypocholesterolemic; Immunomodulator; Schizophrenigenic
MAGNESIUM Fruit 68 - 3,400 ppm
Antiaggregant 400 mg/day; Antialcoholic; Antianginal; Antianorectic; Antianxiety; Antiarrhythmic; Antiarthritic; Antiasthmatic; Antiatherosclerotic; Anticephalagic; AntiCFS; Anticlimacteric 500-750 mg/day; Anticonvulsant; Anticoronary 400 mg/day; Antidepressant; Antidiabetic 400-800 mg/man/day; Antidysmenorrheic 100 mg 4 x/day; Antiendometriotic 500 mg/day; Antienterotic; Antiepileptic 450 mg/day; Antifatigue; Antifibromyalgic 200-300 mg 3x/day; Antigastrotic; Antiglaucomic; Antihyperkinetic; Antihypertensive; Antihypoglycemic; Antiinflammatory 100 mg 4 x/day; Antiinsomniac; Antilithic; AntiLyme 400-1,000 mg; Antimastalgic; Antimenopausal 500-750 mg/day; Antimigraine 200 mg/day/man; Antimitral-valve-prolapse; AntiMS; Antinephrolytic; Antineurotic; Antiosteoporotic 500-1,000 mg/day/wmn/orl; Antiplaque 500-1,000 mg/day; AntiPMS 400-800 mg/day/wmn orl 400-800 mg/day/wmn/orl; AntiRaynaud's 280-350 mg/day; Antiretinopathic 400 mg/day; Antispasmodic; Antispasmophilic 500 mg/day; Antistress 500-750 mg/day; Antistroke 400 mg/day; Antisyndrome-X 400 mg/man/day; Anxiolytic 500-750 mg/day; Calcium-Antagonist; Cardioprotective; CNS-Depressant; Diuretic; Hypocholesterolemic 400 mg/day; Hypotensive 260-500 mg/day; Immunomodulator; Insulinogenic 400 mg/day; Laxative 300-500 mg/day; Litholytic; Myorelaxant 100 mg 4 x/day; Neurotransmitter; Tranquilizer 500-750 mg/day; Uterorelaxant 100 mg 4 x/day; Vasodilator
MANGANESE Fruit 0.22 - 25.5 ppm
Antialcoholic; Antianemic; Antiarthritic; Antidiabetic 10-30 mg/man/day 3-5 mg/day; Antidiscotic; Antidyskinetic; Antiepileptic 450 mg/day; Antiosteoporotic; Antiototic; Antioxidant; AntiPMS; Antisyndrome-X 10-30 mg/man/day; Hypoglycemic
PHOSPHORUS Fruit 70 - 4,080 ppm
Antiosteoporotic; Anxiolytic; Immunostimulant; Osteogenic
SELENIUM Fruit 0.013 ppm;
Analgesic 200 ug/day; Anorexic; Antiacne; Antiaggregant; Antiangiogenic 2 uM 230 ug/kg orl rat; Antiarthritic; Antiasthmatic; Antiatherosclerotic; Anticataract 400 ug/day; Anticirrhotic; Anticlimacteric 200 ug/day; Anticoronary; Antidandruff; Antidepressant; Antidote (Mercury); Antifibrotic 400 ug; Antigout 200 ug; AntiHIV; Antikeshan; Antileukemic 1.6 mg/kg ipr mus; Antileukotriene; Antimaculitic; Antimelanomic 480 ug/kg; Antimenopausal 200 ug/day; Antimetastatic 480 ug/kg; Antimyalgic 200 ug/day; AntiNF-kB; Antiosteoarthritic; Antioxidant 100-200 (-400) ug/man/day; Antiparkinsonian 200-400 ug/day; Antiproliferant 2 uM; Antiradicular 100-200 (-400) ug/man/day; Antirheumatic; Antisyndrome-X; Antitumor; Antitumor (brain) 38-150 ug/kg; Antitumor (Breast) 0.8 mg/kg scu mus 150 ug/kg diet rat 230 ug/kg orl rat 333.6 ug/day; Antitumor (Lung) 240 ug/kg diet; Antitumor (Prostate); Antiulcerogenic; Anxiolytic; AP-1-Inhibitor 2-50 uM; Apoptotic; Cancer-Preventive; Cardioprotective 200 ug/day; Depressant; Fungicide; Immunomodulator; Immunostimulant 100-200 (-400) ug/man/day; NF-kB-Inhibitor; Ornithine-Decarboxylase-Inhibitor; Pesticide; Polyamine-Synthesis-Inhibitor; Prostaglandin-Sparer; Protein-Kinase-C-Inhibitor IC50=2-50 uM; VEGF-Inhibitor
SILICON Fruit 2 - 62 ppm
Antiarteriosclerotic; Antionychyotic; Antiosteoporotic; Cardioprotective
Acarifuge; Antiacne; Antiarthritic; Antidandruff; Antigrey; Antiosteoarthritic; Antiseborrheic; Antiseptic; Comedogenic; Keratolytic; Laxative; Parasiticide; Pesticide; Scabicide
ZINC Fruit 0.66 - 131 ppm
ACE-Inhibitor; Analgesic; Antiacne 135 mg/day; Antiacrodermatitic 8-34 mg/day/orl/chd; Antialcoholic; Antialopecic; Antialzheimeran 50 mg/day; Antiangiogenic; Antianorexic; Antiarthritic 50 mg/3x/day/orl/man; AntiBPH 25-60 mg/day; Anticanker 100 mg/day; Anticataract 30 mg/day; Anticoeliac; Anticold 50 mg; Anticolitic; Anticoronary 30 mg/day; AntiCrohn's; Antidandruff; Antidementia; Antidiabetic; Antidote (Cadmium); Antidysgeuzic; Antieczemic 150 mg/day; Antiencephalopathic; Antiepileptic 100 mg/day; Antifibrotic 30 mg; Antifuruncular 45 mg/3x/day/man; Antihangover 15 mg; Antiherpetic? 25-60 mg/day; AntiHIV; Antiimpotence; Antiinfective 50 mg/day; Antiinfertility 60 mg/day; Antiinsomniac; Antilepric; Antileukonychic; Antilymphomic; Antimaculitic; Antimetastatic; Antineuropathic; Antinyctalopic; Antiobesity 30 mg/day; Antiosteoporotic; Antiperiodontitic; Antiplaque; Antiprolactin; Antiprostatitic 50 mg/man/day/orl; Antirheumatic; Antiseptic 50 mg/day; Antispare-Tire 30 mg/day; Antistomatitic 50 mg/man/3x/day; Antisyndrome-X 30 mg/day; Antitinnitic 60-120 mg/day; Antitriglyceride 30 mg/day; Antiulcer 50 mg/3x/day/man 88 mg/rat/day/15 days; Antiviral?; Astringent; Collagenic; Copper-Antagonist; Deodorant; Detoxicant (Alcohol); Ergogenic; Hypotensive 30 mg/day; Immunomodulator; Immunostimulant; Immunosuppressant 300 mg/day/6 wks/orl/man; Insulinogenic 30 mg/day; Leptingenic 30-60 mg/man/day; Mucogenic; NF-kB-Inhibitor; Pesticide; Spermigenic 60 mg/day; Testosteronigenic; Trichomonicide; Vulnerary

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by VF [12036.8753] on September 25, 2010 at 15:16:30:

In Reply to: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 24, 2010 at 19:30:36:

This strontium isn't the radio active one is it? Wouldn't need a light in the dark, or a night light or an Xray machine to take Xrays.))

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 16:33:34:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 13:28:55:

Mention strontium to most people, and they will almost always immediately think of strontium-90, a highly dangerous, radioactive component of nuclear fallout produced during atmospheric testing of nuclear weapons in the 1950s. As a result of above-ground nuclear testing, radioactive strontium spread throughout the environment and contaminated dairy products and other foods, and subsequently accumulated in the bones of both children and adults.

The media made us well aware that strontium-90 could cause our bones to become radioactive, causing cancer or some other horrible disease as a result. So, in the minds of many, strontium is a poison to be avoided, just like other toxic metals such as lead, mercury, cadmium and aluminum.

However, stable strontium&emdash;meaning nonradioactive&emdash;is nontoxic, even when administered in large doses for prolonged periods. It also appears to be one of the most effective substances yet found for the prevention and treatment of osteoporosis and other bone-related conditions.

Furthermore, repeatedly administering stable strontium can even gradually eliminate radioactive strontium from the body. The stable form slowly replaces the radioactive form in bone, and radioactive strontium is excreted in the urine...Strontium has been safely used as a medicinal substance for more than a hundred years. It was first listed in Squire's Companion to the British Pharma-copoiea in 1884. Subsequently, strontium was used therapeutically in the United States and Europe. As late as 1955, strontium compounds were still listed in the Dispensatory of the United States of America. For decades in the first half of the twentieth century, strontium salts were administered in dosages of 200 to 400 mg/day without toxic effects.



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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 18:43:17:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 16:33:34:

Thanks, k.

News to me. Now all we need to determine is whether, or not, non-radioactive strontium can help reverse or prevent osteoporosis. That will take a very large study, done over MANY years.

I am not likely to live that long so it will be up to you to let us know.

Walt

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 19:28:35:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 18:43:17:

Walt, that article was interesting. They completed a 3-year study with good results. Here is the last paragraph:
Also, although the studies cited above used only strontium, plus calcium and vitamin D, I believe that even better results would be achieved by including other potential anti-osteoporotic substances such as a broad-spectrum mineral replacement that includes magnesium, vitamin K and boron, plus Xylitol, ipriflavone, calcium hydroxyapatite, progesterone cream (and in some cases, estrogen), and DHEA. A comprehensive regimen of synergistic bone-enhancing substances should provide the optimum regimen for preventing and treating osteoporosis.


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Re: PRUNES!

Posted by PhillyLady [3423.8985] on September 25, 2010 at 19:31:27:

In Reply to: PRUNES! posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:09:29:

Osteopenia.

Don't know too much about prunes. I ate them as a child with other stewed fruits:-)

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:37:38:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by VF [12036.8753] on September 25, 2010 at 15:16:30:

No, VF, there's nothing radioactive about it. And there's no Cayenne in it--dang!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:39:16:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 13:23:36:

Who is Dr Duke?

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:46:31:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 16:33:34:

Thanks, k. Did you know about Strontium? I've found it on ebay and will be buying the brand called Doctor's Best.

No doubt my longstanding bout of diarrhea and weight loss had a profound effect on my bone density. The endocrinologist said the weight loss hurt me the most. Which was caused by the diarrhea. I'd say I have a good case for medical malpractice, but I don't know if I want the brain damage.

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Re: PRUNES!

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 20:06:32:

In Reply to: Re: PRUNES! posted by PhillyLady [3423.8985] on September 25, 2010 at 19:31:27:

Well, I am going to buy truckload of prunes! Going to that and Cal Apatite, more d, k2, rebounding and working out with weights, in addition to Jazzercise. I am on a mission.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 20:16:23:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:39:16:

Born in Birmingham, Alabama in 1929, James A. "Jim" Duke is a Phi Beta Kappa PhD (botany, 1961) graduate of the University of North Carolina. Jim, following military service, undertook postdoctoral activities at Washington University and Missouri Botanical Garden in St. Louis, Missouri. There he began studies of neotropical ethnobotany, his overriding interest to this day. From 1963 to 1965, Duke was ecologist with the USDA (Beltsville, Maryland), joining Battelle Columbus Laboratories (1965-71) for ecological and ethnobotanical studies in Panama and Colombia. During this formative period, Duke lived with various ethnic groups, closely observing their deep dependence on forest products. The first of some twenty books, his Isthmian Ethnobotanical Dictionary catalogs hundreds of Isthmian plants and their uses. Rejoining USDA in 1971, Duke had assignments relating to crop diversification, medicinal plants, and energy plant studies in developing countries. A popular lecturer on the subjects of ethnobotany, herbs, medicinal plants, and new crops and their ecology, he has taped dozens of TV and radio shows. There is a good biographic sketch in the Sep/Oct-1991 issue of EastWest magazine. The National Agriculture Library has a video history of Dr. Duke's career and development. Duke grows dozens of interesting plants on his six-acre farmette (Herbal Vineyard) with his wife and illustrator, Peggy. On Sept. 30, 1995, he retired after 30 years with the USDA.Before retiring, Dr. Duke brought his Father Nature's Farmacy database online at USDA. It is now, in Duke's retirement, one of the most frequently consulted database with the Plant Genome Project at USDA. The URL address is: http://www.ars-grin.gov/duke
Duke has already doubled the data content in the interactive database he maintains as Director, Duke's Herbal Vineyard, Inc. The database is especially useful for determining biological activities and healing potentials of food ands herbs.

Fluent in Spanish, Duke has studied and/or lectured widely, concentrating on tropical ecology, medical botany, and crop diversification. Widely travelled, Duke "cut his tropical eye teeth" in Panama where he was resident from 1966-68. While working on an encyclopedia of economic plants, he has collaborated with the National Cancer Institute on both their AIDS and cancer-screening programs and their Designer Food Program (to prevent cancer). His data bases on the ecology, nutritional content, folk medicinal uses and chemical constituents of economic plants are being widely utilized. Duke's major goal lately is to reverse the disdain for alternative medicines in the US, where, as in the Third World, a larger and larger percentage of the people can no longer afford first-world pharmaceuticals. Duke has a contagious interest in natural foods and nutritional approaches to preventive medicine. Between 1990-1992, Duke was advising the Designer Food Program of the NIH, then under the aegis of Dr. Herb Pierson. Lately Duke has been very active in ecotourism in Latin America and is teaching such themes as renewable rainforest products in the rainforests of Amazonian Peru. He has become an expert in the field of non-timber forest products.

With an aggregate of more then five years in Latin America, Duke has traversed parts of Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Guadelupe, Guatemala, Honduras, Jamaica, Mexico, Panama, Peru, Puerto Rico, and Venezuela. In Asia, he has had lengthy visits in China, India, Indonesia, Pakistan, and quick looks at Burma, Japan, Laos and Vietnam. In the Middle East, he has worked in Iran, Israel, Kuwait, and Syria, with quick looks at the Mediterranean countries of Egypt, Greece, Italy, Portugal and Spain. His only tours in tropical Africa include Madagascar, Sao Tome, The Ivory Coast and Zambia. Recently he has been teaching field ethnobotany regularly in Amazonian Peru, Belize and Costa Rica (mostly in the winter) and in the Maine northwoods (in summer only). In 1997, similar tours are planned for Kenya and Uganda.


Jim belongs to the American Botanical Council (Trustee), American Herb Association (Life), American Society of Pharmacognosy, Association for Tropical Biology (Life), Council of Agricultural Science and Technology (Cornerstone Life Member), Herb Research Foundation (Advisor), International Association of Plant Taxonomists (Life), International Society for Tropical Root Crops (Life), International Weed Science Society (Life), Organization for Tropical Studies (Life), Oriental Healing Arts Society (Honorary), Phi Beta Kappa, Sigma Xi, Smithsonian Institution (Collaborator), Society for Conservation Biology (Life), Society for Economic Botany (Life), Southern Appalachian Botanical Club (Life), and the Washington Academy of Sciences (Life).

Dr. Duke serves as a Senior Scientific Adviser to Nature's Herbs and is on the board of trustees of the American Botanical Council, Director, Botanical Products International (Hakalau Hawaii) and Microbotanica, the Scientific Advisory Team of Shaman Pharmaceuticals (San Francisco), Medical Advisory Board of Herbalife (Los Angeles), and serves as Medicinal Plant Adviser to Reader's Digest and Time-Life. He also serves as an advisor or unpaid consultant to ACEER (Amazon Center for Environmental Education and Research), Alternative Medicine Digest, American Health, the Center for Alternative Medicine in Women's Health (NY), Center for Mind-Body Medicine, Center for Plant Conservation, Herb Research Foundation, International Expeditions, National College of Phytotherapy, Rodale Press, Rheumatology Unit (NIH); Supplements/ Dietary Advisory Board (NIH, Bethesda MD), Rosenthal Center for Alternative/Complementary Medicine, TRAMIL, and the World Health Organization (Traditional Medicine Program ). He is CEO of a newly formed consulting firm, Duke's Herbal Vineyard Inc, where he is writing the newsletter, News from the Herbal Village, and raising several specimen herbs for analysis and study. Routinely queried by editors and writers for several different popular and scientific health-oriented journals, and by producers of radio and television networks, both conservative and liberal, Duke recently has given accredited continuing education lectures on herbal medicine, pros and cons, to chiropractors, nurses, nurse practitioners, pharmacists, and physicians.

In addition to scores of popular and scientific articles, Duke has published several pertinent books: (1) Handbook of Legumes of World Economic Importance, Plenum Press, New York, 345 pp., 1981; (2) Medicinal Plants of the Bible, Trado-Medic Books, Buffalo, New York, 233 pp., 1981; (3) CRC Handbook of Medicinal Herbs, CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 704 pp., 1985; (4) Culinary Herbs: A Potpourri, Trado-Medic Books, Buffalo, New York, 195 pp., 1985; (5) Medicinal Plants of China (with E. Ayensu), Reference Publications, Algonac, Michigan, 2 vols., 705 pp., 1985; (6) CRC Handbook of Proximate Analysis Tables of Higher Plants (with A. Atchley), CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 389 pp., 1986; (7) Isthmian Ethnobotanical Dictionary, 3rd edition, Scientific Publishers, Jodhpur, India, 205 pp., 1986; (8) Handbook of Northeastern Indian Medicinal Plants, Quarterman Press, Lincoln, Massachusetts, 212 pp., 1986; (9) Living Liqueurs, Quarterman Press, Lincoln, Massachusetts, 110 pp., 1987; (10) CRC Handbook of Agricultural Energy Potential for Developing Countries (with A. Atchley, K. Ackerson, and P. Duke), CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 4 vols., 1063 pp., 1987; (11) CRC Handbook of Nuts, CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 343 pp., 1989; (12) with Steven Foster, a Peterson Field Guide to Medicinal Plants, Houghton-Miflin, Boston MA, 366 pp, 1990 (13) Ginseng, a Concise Handbook, Reference Publications, Algonac, Michigan, 273 pp., 1990, (14) CRC Handbook of Edible Weeds, CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 1992 and (15) CRC Handbook (and database) of Phytochemical Constituents of GRAS Herbs and Other Economic Plants, 654 pp., 1992 and the CRC Handbook (and Database) of Biological Activities of Phytochemicals (1992), (16) CRC Handbook of Alternative Cash Crops, (J. A. Duke and J. L. duCellier), CRC Press, Inc., Boca Raton, Florida, 1993, 536 pp., (18) Duke and Vasquez's Amazonian Ethnobotanical Dictionary in 1994 and (19) Beckstrom-Sternberg and Duke (1996, CRC Handbook of Aromathematics) Number 20, his opus magnum, Green Pharmacy, Rodale Press, is due to be out July, 1997. Currently Dr. Duke, retired from the USDA Sept. 30, is working on three books, Green Pharmacy for Rodale Press, Synergy in Phytomedicines, under consideration by Synergetic Press, and finally, a second edition to the CRC Handbook of Medicinal Herbs. After he finishes these, Duke threatens to do more talking and less writing. In 1995 he presented more than 200 lectures and/or guided field trips or workshops. 1996 looks busier. Duke is a regular or occasional contributor or editorial adviser to such periodicals as Alternative Medicine Digest, American Health, Business of Herbs, Complementary Medicine for the Physician, Diversity, Economic Botany, The Environmentarian, HerbalGram, Herbs for Health, The International Permaculture Species Yearbook, The Journal of Alternative & Complementary Medicine, Journal of Optimal Nutrition, Journal or Aromatherapy, Mind-Body Connection, Natural Health, Organic Gardening, News from the Herbal Village, and Wild Foods Forum.


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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 21:15:41:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 00:05:14:

But you do have the http with your new url, right?


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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 21:24:16:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 21:15:41:

I removed the http part of the url. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do?

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 22:07:35:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 21:24:16:

No, you have to leave one of them on. You remove only the duplicate!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 22:23:10:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 22:07:35:

Trying again, AT!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 22:23:53:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 22:23:10:

I'm going to forget it!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 22:50:25:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:46:31:

You're welcome Ellen. No, actually I didn't know about Stontium until you brought it up. So I did a quick search the other night and found this article. I don't blame you for your interest in it, I am very interested as well. I will be having another scan soon, so I will assess then.

That's interesting about the weight loss being a cause for osteo. Didn't know that.

As for a lawsuit, that guy sounds pretty unstable. Not sure I would want to tangle with him, but I guess it could depend on just how much damage he caused you and how well you can prove it.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 22:54:26:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 25, 2010 at 18:43:17:

You're welcome Dr. Stoll.

Since I have osteoporosis, and it runs in my family, I have a vested interest. I must admit that there's that fear I could accidentally get the radioactive stuff, and that would be that. But on a serious note, it does sound promising, so if I hear of anything else I'll be sure to let y'all know.

k.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by VF [12036.8753] on September 25, 2010 at 23:33:33:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 19:37:38:

can always add the cayenne yourself. Just a little sprinkle will do ya. Put hair on your chest also. )))

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 00:11:26:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 25, 2010 at 22:23:53:

LOL
This is exactly what I do:
The URL is at top of window, I click the menu and "copy" so the url is ready to paste
Now I go to URL line and backspace over the http:// to erase it.
I right click the menu and "paste" (http:// reappears)
Does the whole address line show up? It should.
Lastly I fill in a Link Title.
Hit the Submit Follow Up (you have already filled in the top part, right? (your name, subject and something in comments)
Ellen, if that doesn't work, there must be something that isn't allowing you to post links.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:21:02:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 13:36:54:

What is this, please, Charles?

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:28:54:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 22:50:25:

If you look at osteo exercises--weight bearing, then it makes sense. The body itself if it is substantial, then it is weight bearing.

Plus, he had me on a high protein diet. Now I've come to find out that a high protein diet is bad for bone density. He should know that. He had a Phd in nutrition.

And the diarrhea caused me to lose weight and lose nutrients. I found a 4/2009 test for vitamin d, it was 58. Now I was just tested and I was 49. I've had a lot of bruising lately and I think that is associated with low vitamin k levels. My potassium levels were very low when my Dr tested me in May. That's very important to bone density.

So, he screwed me up every which way.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:30:46:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 25, 2010 at 22:50:25:

Did you read the post on prunes in this thread?

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 26, 2010 at 01:34:33:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:28:54:

Well it sounds like he did screw you up alright. I don't know what the burden of proof would be, but I guess tests with before and after d,k, and potassium levels would help, as well as him being off base about the high protein. You will have to weigh the risks and benefits of suing him, and only you will know the answer. You will make a point, and you might get some money, but you will still be in the position you are in, bonewise.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"?

Posted by k. [2065.8928] on September 26, 2010 at 01:44:21:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:30:46:

I believe I did, and I am so glad to hear it. Prunes and plums are healthy, enjoyable, and easy to obtain. I have always loved both.

Yes, this has been a very instructive and helpful thread, and I have been saving many of these posts!

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? - Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.8951] on September 26, 2010 at 07:23:19:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis--"fall out"? posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 25, 2010 at 19:28:35:

Thanks, AT.

Thereby lies the rub. Different things need different lengths of time to become significant. This 3 year study really needed to be at least 30 years long to be significant for osteoporosis. This is why so few studies that need long term observation to be significant are even considered.

Walt

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by PhillyLady [5066.8985] on September 26, 2010 at 09:56:28:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 00:11:26:

Don't forget to give your link a "title". If there is no title, the link won't take.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 10:44:15:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by PhillyLady [5066.8985] on September 26, 2010 at 09:56:28:

Read it again, Philly, I did.
But I'm wondering what she is doing wrong and wonder if when filling in the new URL, it may be that she is not lining it up to the left margin where the duplicate http was.
Ha. It's a mystery and I always need to solve those.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 26, 2010 at 12:04:51:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 00:21:02:

Those are the chemicals in plums/prunes that have anti-osteoporotic activity.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by PhillyLady [5066.8985] on September 26, 2010 at 12:30:12:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 10:44:15:

Aw shucks, I don't ever read every comment. I miss a lot of the conversation this way.

Sometimes when posting a link, a person might inadvertently add a space or dot, or something. A space is invisible so it wouldn't be easily noticeable. Maybe that's what is happening. I don't know...just guessing.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by craig [4445.8872] on September 26, 2010 at 13:00:19:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 25, 2010 at 20:16:23:

"International Weed Society"? Apparently smoking a little based on his views.

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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 26, 2010 at 14:09:45:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by Charles [448.7763] on September 26, 2010 at 12:04:51:

Thanks, Charles!

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Test

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 22:17:51:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by PhillyLady [5066.8985] on September 26, 2010 at 12:30:12:

Test


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Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 22:19:39:

In Reply to: Re: Strontium for Osteoporosis posted by PhillyLady [5066.8985] on September 26, 2010 at 12:30:12:

I left an extra space on the URL line and it still WORKED!

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A Funeral Home?

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

In Reply to: Test posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 26, 2010 at 22:17:51:

A funeral home website?!

I tried it again and it didn't work! So, why don't you try it AT?

Google "osteoporosis success stories national osteoporosis foundation" and see if you can attach it. You're a better woman than I am if you can! (or man?)

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Re: A Funeral Home?

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:10:51:

In Reply to: A Funeral Home? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

LOL, I didn't think it was going to work so I used something on my screen at the time.
This is a good idea for me to try it. Maybe it's not your fault at all, just the website's problem.


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Re: A Funeral Home?

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:20:40:

In Reply to: A Funeral Home? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

First I had to Google your title and lots of them came up so I'm not sure this is the correct one, Ellen. You know, you can't just use words (like the ones you posted) as an url. You need the whole web address so I had to go to the page and then copy the entire line at the top of their website.
Yes, I'm female and interested in this topic as well.

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Re: A Funeral Home?

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:21:46:

In Reply to: A Funeral Home? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

First I had to Google your title and lots of them came up so I'm not sure this is the correct one, Ellen. You know, you can't just use words (like the ones you posted) as an url. You need the whole web address so I had to go to the page and then copy the entire line at the top of their website.
Yes, I'm female and interested in this topic as well.

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Re: A Funeral Home?

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:23:12:

In Reply to: A Funeral Home? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

First I had to Google your title and lots of them came up so I'm not sure this is the correct one, Ellen. You know, you can't just use words (like the ones you posted) as an url. You need the whole web address so I had to go to the page and then copy the entire line at the top of their website.
Yes, I'm female and interested in this topic as well.


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Osteoporosis

Posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:27:33:

In Reply to: A Funeral Home? posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 00:04:00:

I see where you told me to Google the website, sorry for the redundancy. Anyway, I tried it once and it didn't work but on the second try it went through. So I don't think it's YOU:) Keep your self-esteem in tact.

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THIS IS THE WEBSITE!

Posted by Ellen [11114.8910] on September 27, 2010 at 12:14:45:

In Reply to: Re: A Funeral Home? posted by AT [11797.8855] on September 27, 2010 at 09:10:51:

Thanks, AT! Since it's buried now in this thread and we may not have many people see it, why don't you start a new thread? I think it is so good. I read all 105 postings.

Thanks for doing that for me and everyone.

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