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I have tried everything...it's been 4months and it won't go away. it
just keeps on getting worse and I am getting more and more
depressed. I feel like my face is ruined. I don't use fluoride
toothpaste, no SLS products, I use tea tree oil every night and
calendula cream sometimes when my face gets dried out. I have to
sleep more and relax but this dermatitis causes so much anxiety in
me. Please help with any suggestions you may have. I have even
gone on antibiotics etc....no good.
Please help. I'm 24 and feel like the best years of my life are being
ruined by this...
Thank you in advance
sara
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
Sara, your post cries out to me.
Tell us what your diet is like. What do you do for a living or if in school, what subjects are you taking? What is the weather like where you live? What is your height and weight? What sports do you participate in? This started four months ago? What happened four months ago? Something or several things changed in your life four months ago, what was it?
By the way, at 24, you don't even have a clue at how good your life will get. 24 years old sucks for just about everyone, trust me on this one.
Please respond, maybe some folks here can help you figure this thing out.
And one last thing... don't forget to pray for yourself. Okay, dear? If you want, I will too.
Regards, Alex
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
You have tried everything?
Does "everything" include SR, Whole foods diet, and Exercise?
My skin has cleared so much since doing these things.
I thank god for Dr. Stoll, and so does my skin!
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Alexandria Dumas on September 24, 2003 at 21:36:09:
Thank you so much for your e-mail Alex. I really appreciate it.
my diet is pretty regular. I eat 2 whole wheat pieces of toast in the morning with a little butter and maybe some jam and a cup of tea. then I usually have a sandwich(turkey or cheese with veggies) for lunch with a fruit or sometimes i have pasta or Thai noodles with veggies and tofu. Then in the evening i have rice with some sort of stew(like chicken with onions and tomatoes...something like a curry but not spicy) and of course I have salad as well. When I crave something sweet i usually have a date, dried apricot or a piece of dark chocolate.
I am currently getting my Master's in Art history and am enjoying my classes but have a lot of work to do. I live in Chicago so right now the weather is nice but will be getting cold for the winter months. All summer it was pretty hot. I'm about 5'4" and 140 lbs. I feel like I lose a little weight but it's the least of my worries right now. I haven't been participating in sports for a whil but I used to go to the gym a few times a week. It's been about 4 months since i stopped casue we moved to a new place and things have been hectic. 4months ago was just b4 i went on a trip with my husband to see my in-laws. they are vvery nice and I love them but my husband doesn't' get a long well with his mother and they're constant bickering gets on my nerves. i've been married for just over a year and it's been a big change for me. I had to move cities and didn't know what i was doing with my life and applied for grad school. Then I was looking for a new place for a while and finally found one. We moved in mid-July. I started school in Aug and have been having non-stop houseguests--my in-laws. My parents were also going througha really rough time a month ago and were on the verge of divorce....i didn't sleep well for weeks cause i was devastated. i guess all this stuff and even more that I haven't mentioned it too much pressure on me. I don't what to do. I'm so depressed these days i don't even feel like speaking to anyone including my husband. I only talk with my mum once in a whil and end up crying because of my problems. within the last 3 weeks my mother in law came to visit, my dermatitis has been getting worse, i had to go the hospital because of severe stomach pain which turned out to be acid reflux or a possible ulcer, and i have a yeast infection to top it all off.
UUgh! I hate to dump all of this out but i don't felel like I have any other choice. I'm supposed to be a bridesmaid for a friend's wedding this week-end and I feel so bad that my face looks like this and it's painful as well.
thanks again for everything. I guess the only other thing is is that my relationship with my husband can be stressful at times. He's 10 years older than me and i love him but i feel he always puts a lot of pressure on me and doesn't realize what I'm going through. I guess I'm an ultra-sensitive person and it's hard for people to deal with my emotions...
thanks again,
take care,
Sara
I will try to begin praying again
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Miss Bliss on September 24, 2003 at 23:41:39:
i have to work on my SR. I bought the book..it's just a matter of time and getting around to doing it. i started my first Yoga class yesterday which i enjoyed. I'll try to keep it up. My diet is pretty good, it hink but may need a little help.
Thanks for the advice.
Sara
P.S> I guess getting a membership to a gym wouldn't be a bad idea...what kind of exercise is best?
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by sara on September 24, 2003 at 23:51:58:
Sara
I read your post, and I can see how much stress you are under.
Please start serious SR, twice a day. ITs so important to get your stress levels under control when you suffer with skin problems of any kind.
Also dont discount exercise. When you find you're feeling particularly bad inside, exercise, go for a walk, anything to get that "stuck" emotion out of your body. Vigorous exercise is great for moving negative energy out of your body.
I too have suffered with seborrheic dermatitis, acne, scalp problems, and once I sseriously started working at wellness, they cleared up to where I dont need ANY creams, no longer need antibiotics etc.
Please give it a serious try. You will have to relinquish some of your fav foods, but the payoff will be well worth it in the end, and the improvement in your quality oflife.
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by sara on September 24, 2003 at 23:46:25:
Wow! You've got a whole lot on your plate right now. And I note this:
It's been about 4 months since i stopped casue we moved to a new place and things have been hectic. 4months ago was just b4 i went on a trip with my husband to see my in-laws. they are vvery nice and I love them but my husband doesn't' get a long well with his mother and they're constant bickering gets on my nerves.
Sounds like all you need is SR and you need it badly. I'm not even remotely capable of directing you on this, it's something I need to figure out, too. I sometimes find myself going to sleep at night with my fists clenched and I have to consciously make myself relax, which I guess is a baby step in the right direction. Reading this site has done wonders for me in that area. It's the constant repetition from Dr. Stoll and all the wonderful people here about skilled relaxation (SR) and its huge importance that has helped me make the tiny, infinitesimal, amoeba-like changes I've done. I keep reminding myself that with tiny changes big things can happen over time.
I'm pretty sure you're not in the market for a pill or a potion. And if you're not, this is a great learning time, personally experiencing the relation between the mind and the body. It still sucks though. I mean, if the mind and body have such a connection, and there's no doubt they do, then it should theoretically be possible for you to wake up tomorrow with this skin problem completely gone, or even disappear in the blink of an eye.
And I know what you mean about your husband putting pressure on you. Mine is somewhat obsessive-compulsive, but in a good way, very high voltage, high energy and it's easy to be sucked in. But really, if your husband is anything like mine, he doesn't really expect you to keep up with him, it's a pressure you put on yourself. So just stop it!
((((((hugs))))))
Alex
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
Hi Sara,
It sounds like you really haven't done that much to institute change. I found honestly, that the SLS toothpaste thing was moot. It's not an external rash really, but coming from INSIDE...so I'd alkalize your body, "get around" to SR, change your diet and so on. You are answering your own questions - you say with anxiety it get's worse...so, find ways to decrease other anxiety in your life and then you have to sort of "accept" the rash for the time being. Once you say, "OK, I'm going to have this a while, but I'm making changes that will eventually clear it up" and LIVE your life...you'll evenually SEE changes.
I had it, and I kicked it 100% and it took major life changes to do so...which were great in the long run, as it is always life changes that are good not just for the skin, but the mind and spirit.
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
If you have a yeast infection, stress and so on...you need to kill the yeast in your body - alkalize it and follow an anti-candida diet.
distance yourself (mentally) from the bickering...see it as "their" issue... learn to handle stress, not "put up with it"...
this will get better IF you work HARD at it. For me, it ended up not being at all about toothpaste or a certain food. There are hypothesis on POD, but I've never heard anyone clear it up, in all of my research, just from stopping a toothpaste! Plus, it wouldn't get worse from anxiety if it was a toothpaste, unless you squirt colgate on your face when you are upset!
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
I just wanted to thank all of you for your suggestions and kindness. I appreciate it so much. i will try my best to start doing SR because I realize how important it is. sometimes I feel like I don't have enough time but i guess I'll just have to make time! One question....what do I need to take out of my diet?
Thanks again everyone, (michele, miss bliss, alex)
take care,
Sara
In Reply to: thank you everyone posted by Sara on September 25, 2003 at 21:43:26:
First, you will need to get Beth Loiselle's book on Whole foods diet plan, and follow it strictly.
Also, check the archives. There is so much great information in there that you can use.
As far as time for SR, you will need to prioritise your time. For example, instead of watching television (if you do), you could do your meditation. And I dont mean yoga (as in hatha yoga), I mean MEDITATION. Not sure if you meant hatha yoga or not?
Pay attention to where you spend needless amounts of time on particular aspects in your life, that could be cut back.
You could try waking up 30mins beforehand in the morning. And then, doing your second meditation session later in the afternoon, if that suits you. But it has to be done 2 hours before going to sleep, otherwise it nullifies some of the benefits.
Also you cant do your meditaiton in one session, i.e. DONT combine the two into one 4o min session. And you should have at least 2 hours between sessions.
All you need is 40-50mins out of your day for meditation. Not even an hour! But you do need to be well organized with your time in order to get both sessions in.
Check the archives also on SR/Meditation. Walt recommends Martha Davis' book, the Relaxation Workbook. Order it from your library, if you can. In there you can find the right meditation technique for you, rather than spending valuable time on your own, trying to figure out the most suitable form of meditation for you.
There is a questionnaire in Davis' book. After answering it, you will be able to ascertain which is the best meditation technique for you.
If you are serious enough about getting well, you WILL FIND the time to do your meditation. First educate yourself (achives), read others testimonials, if that will give you some inspiration and motivation, and then do what needs to be done to get well.
You can do it!
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
Sara,
I am sorry that I did not see your post earlier. I had POD so bad that I could "feel" your feelings when reading your post. I had it around my nose, mouth and also my eyes! It has now been well over a year since it went away. Here is what I did. Since some sites said this was a bacterial infection, I took the antibiotic in order to clear it up while I changed my life. I know you said you already did that, but which one? Various antibiotics can fight against different strains. I took tetracycline and it cleared it right up. Now, this is very important - you need to take a PROBIOTIC along with it. The reason you have a yeast infection is because all of your good bacteria is missing due to you taking the antibiotics thus far. Antibiotics are ok to take if you have to, but you absolutely have to take a probiotic along with it and for several weeks after in order to replenish the good bacteria. You need to order one right away. Next, find a natural doc in the Chicago area (it shouldn't be hard) to do a foods test on you. I found out that I had a wheat/grain sensitivity. I eliminated all grains for about six weeks and then could slowly add it back in on a very limited basis. I now only have maybe one serving a day, if that.
Ok - now for the most important factor. Everyone here is talking about SR and let me tell you, it works! However, it will only work if you eliminate the stress from your life and also get enough sleep at night. SR will only have limited effects if you are still living a stressful life and not getting enough sleep I was living in such a state of stress and sleep deprivation that I was actually unaware that I had either. It wasn't until I "quit" some of what I was doing and started to get a good eight hours of sleep per night that I realized how I was living for several years. From what you explained, you do have quite a bit of stress. I wouldn't want people coming and staying with me all the time - especially if I was newly married. That can be very hard on your marriage. You and your husband need time alone. Also, I just received my master's degree and I know how much work/stress is involved. I would advise that you sit down and make a list of the most important factors in your life (your health, your relationship with you husband, etc.) and then make changes based on that list. I had to go from a full load at school down to 1/2 time. It took a bit longer to finish, but at least I wasn't stressed anymore over school. I also quite some volunteer things I was doing and had my daughter go down from 4 after school activites to only 2 (this was partly because I didn't want her to be stressed also). You are only 24 and have your whole life ahead so if it takes an extra year to finish your master's degree - so what! I was 37 when I got my master's degree. Also, maybe you could talk with or write those people who are staying with you and explain that it is causing you (and your marriage) stress and therefore, you cannot have visitors for awhile. There are plenty of hotels in the Chicago area.
Again, I know EXACTLY how you feel since I had the same problem. However, there is hope. In the last year, I have only gotton a bump here and there and nothing at all in the last two months. Please post again and let us all know how you are doing.
In Reply to: Re: thank you everyone posted by Miss BLiss on September 25, 2003 at 22:11:18:
thanks again...your advice is great and I'm beginning to feel better alredy just getting this stuff out of my system! It just makes me feel so nice that all of you take time to help me deal with this and get better. I wish only good things for all of you.
take care,
sara
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Mary K. on September 26, 2003 at 07:49:52:
Thank you so much for all your advice. I will do my best to start up on all of this. I feel better already. As I wrote to someone else, I truly appreciate the time and effort you have given me. I wish all th best for you.
Thanks again
best wishes,
sara
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Mary K. on September 26, 2003 at 07:49:52:
Thanks, Mary K.
Your description of the problem, and one of it's solutions, is more eloquent than anything I could have said. Anyone with POD needs to read this post.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Mary K. on September 26, 2003 at 07:49:52:
What an empowered person you are! Was it the POD alone that motivated you or would you say there were other factors? I'm sure your message will touch and inspire many.
In Reply to: Re: thank you everyone posted by Sara on September 27, 2003 at 00:56:59:
If you put in the effort, I am sure you will see results.
Certainly its great when your skin clears up, but when you look at the big picture when it comes to wellness, that the effort we put in now for our health and well being, not only is going to affect us right now in the immediate future, but also help to ward off illness and disease later on in our life, if we sustain our efforts. We all want to stay as healthy as possible, and I am sure it will pay off dividends for us later on in life.
**~ BLISS ~**
In Reply to: Perioral Dermatitis getting worse posted by Sara on September 24, 2003 at 21:10:58:
Hi everyone,
things are looking up. My skin has calmed down a little in the last few days. Hopefully this will continue. I'm doing Yoga once a week and am fitting SR in to my daily schedule.
i'm getting there slowly,
Thanks for everything...you guys are great!
Sara
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