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Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Erin on August 21, 2002 at 07:37:00:

I have been taking Culturelle now for a month and a half and have absolutely NO improvement with the diarrhea. I am faithfully doing SR and changing my diet but to no avail. I do understand that SR and diet changes will take time. Of course they will... but, I am REALLY upset about the culturelle not helping me one bit. Why would it NOT work if it is known for treating all types of diarrhea AND if I have the problems such as bad bacteria in my gut/food allergies, etc... why wouldn't the culturelle help me at least a little but???????? Sorry that I sound negative, but I am feeling down about seeing absolutely NO improvements on this product and I just wonder why?????? It just makes me a little scared that NOTHING is going to help me and I am going to be stuck for the rest of my life living with extreme diarrhea and having my intestines dictate how and when I am able to go out and live life......



Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Terri-Lynn on August 21, 2002 at 10:20:54:

In Reply to: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Erin on August 21, 2002 at 07:37:00:

It sounds like you need more personal help. You might need to see a nutritionist or a kinesiologist [like myself] or a allergist of some sort or good holistic Dr. like Dr. Stoll;
You need some testing, your not getting to all the pieces of the puzzle, that is all; There is a lot of factors sometimes and more changes then just a few and giving up that is needed here; I suspect you have a lot of candida in the intestines and really need some help with it;



Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Susan on August 21, 2002 at 11:52:59:

In Reply to: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Erin on August 21, 2002 at 07:37:00:

Taking liquid olive leaf extract was a lifesaver for my husband. He had been diagnosed with IBS and had tons and tons of tests, and had taken different prescription meds (like Nexium) with no relief. Within a week of taking it, his stomach swelling went down to normal and his pain stopped. You may want to try it (I would not take the pills), and see if it helps. Plus, some alternative meds work for some and not for others. Another good part was that the liquid was only $12.00 and lasted about a month. So many things that people try are so expensive and this was one herb that wasn't, and it worked!

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Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by observing on August 21, 2002 at 22:45:04:

In Reply to: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Erin on August 21, 2002 at 07:37:00:

this is a good probiotic but it doesn't work for everyone. try primal defense or flora source. i hear great things of those probiotics here. besides, you will need to get to the root of your problem which i would think is lgs.

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Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money (Archive in probiotics.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 22, 2002 at 07:29:13:

In Reply to: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Erin on August 21, 2002 at 07:37:00:

Hi, Erin.

This is why I keep saying to use your personal laboratory (your bodymind--does it work or not). Nothing works for everyone! This is especially true of complex and chronic problems.

Whatever you try needs to be used for the appropriate time for results (You can find out how long from the company or the health food store you get it from.) and then try something else if it is not working.

It is NOT a waste of money: Now you know culturelle is not the right blend for you.

Hope this helps.

Walt

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Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by
Dahlimama on August 22, 2002 at 07:35:49:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Terri-Lynn on August 21, 2002 at 10:20:54:

I know what you're going through. I have lived that life for the past three years. I have done every thing you can imagine. Like you, my first thoughts were just give me some kind of pill to get rid of it. There is no pill. You really need to take the LGS, Candidia and parasite thing seriously. I had numerous test that came back negative. I live in Atlanta and even called the CDC, and went to one of their doctors. Even then I was told, if you haven't been out of the country you don't have a parasite. Their flismy lab test backed up their opinion. However, I believed it to be parasitic and pursued this course. I so glad I did, I can now say that I have my life back. Read Hulda Clark and take her seriously. The parasite cleanse and zapping helped me so much. Also, diet is everything. Of course, to stay out of this problem you need to follow Dr. Stolls expert advice with SR and whole foods. I'm convinced that's where it begins. I do take culturelle an it helps me a lot, but I don't feel it does much good until you get the other problems under control. I wish I had known these things earlier it could have saved me a lot of time and money.

Hope this helps.



Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 13:23:43:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Dahlimama on August 22, 2002 at 07:35:49:

I was just at Border's last night and picked up Hulda Clarks book. I put it down after I realized that she is touting this maching as something that will detect anything bad. I likened that to a pill that cures everything and she lost credibility with me. Maybe I put it down too quickly. Since you have experience with the zapper, could you elaborate a little on how it works and the principle behind it?



Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by
Gregory on August 22, 2002 at 13:34:30:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 13:23:43:

Mind if I join in?

I've got a zapper, and I'm familiar with the theory of operation. Basically the
principle is that harmful organisims operate at a distinct frequency and electrical
potential. By changing that potential and introducing certain harmful (to them)
frequencies you can drive those organisms out of your system.

It works too.

Problem is, the environment of you body has to be cleaned up so that those organisms
don't return. That means a rathe extensive cleanup of both external and internal environment.



Lightwalking,
Gregory




Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 13:43:09:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Gregory on August 22, 2002 at 13:34:30:

Thanks Gregory.

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ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Eugene on August 22, 2002 at 15:54:21:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 13:23:43:

To keep it simple:

You might think of the Zapper as an electrocution
device for parasites, bacteria, etc. But the current
is not large enough to harm humans.

Just remember, the Zapper is NOT a replacement for
bad diet, bad eating habits, stress, etc.
One must use it in conjunction with improving
our dietary, etc. lifestyle.

Eugene



Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Jan S. on August 22, 2002 at 16:30:20:

In Reply to: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Eugene on August 22, 2002 at 15:54:21:

Although I'm open to the theory of the Zapper (if it works) - the $64,000 question is how DO you know if it works?

Since wellness is multifactorial (as you rightly point out), how do you know what's working in this case?

The double-blind, placebo-controlled thing doesn't work very well in a world where synergstic wellness ("all of it together") is what works.

I am all for empirical evidence. "If it works, do it" but
how do you distinguish between wishful thinking and real effects? I'm NOT debunking - I really want to know. Yes I know I should read the book... but help me out a little?



Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by jon on August 22, 2002 at 18:59:11:

In Reply to: Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Jan S. on August 22, 2002 at 16:30:20:

I guess if her stuff works for you, more power to you. I just can't seem to take advice from Ms Clark. One look at her did it.

See link for more:

J



Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 19:25:28:

In Reply to: Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by jon on August 22, 2002 at 18:59:11:

I'm going to have to agree with you Jon. Flipping thru her book, I just couldn't accept what she was saying about the Zapper. There were some other reasonable things in her book, but like you said, by the look of her you wonder. She has terrible skin tone, big black circles under her eyes and she is overweight. Overall, she looks very unhealthy.

I wonder what Dr. Stoll thinks of her theories and ideas?



In other words she looks "hounded" as in critical peers & AMA?

Posted by
Gregory on August 22, 2002 at 20:20:03:

In Reply to: Re: ZAPPER -- Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 19:25:28:

Radical new ideas, closed-minded peers, lack of critical review due to funding, something
that really works. Not exactly a recepie for rosy cheeks and healthy countenance. This is not
about reasonable, but about what works. I am certain the zapper works from the severe toxin
dumps I would get. They were worse than having the parasites. I knew I'd never be
able to clean internally and externally as much as her protocol demanded, so I dropped
it as a health problem solving modality from a certian kind of laziness rather than it "not woking."
I believe Walt gave it a "thumbs up" but you should ask Walt directly rather than coy 3rd party
requests of same.



Lightwalking,
Gregory




Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by
Dahlimama on August 23, 2002 at 08:42:18:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Donna E. on August 22, 2002 at 13:23:43:

Since I am not exactly the scientific type, I guess I'll have to go with the electrocution explanation. My understanding is that every thing has it's own frequency and you tap into that.

I felt the same way when I flipped through her book. Actually, I was put off by the title "The Cure For All Diseases". I thought yeah, right, I would have never even picked it up, except my husband bought it for me out of desperation. Even then, it was months before I took it seriously. Then several more months before I bought the zapper. I kept thinking, I'll order it tommrow, but didn't have any real faith in using it. Until, I saw some medical docs on 20/20 bashing it. Having been through what I have with them--- I ordered mine the next day and begin to take her seriously. One thing that gave me faith in her, is that she is not selling anything. She gives instructions to make your own zapper if you are so inclined. I wasn't.

You can't possibly do ALL the things she recommends, it's overwhelming! It's really written for the critically ill cancer patient. I just try to extract what I need.

As far as the way she looks, I had the same thoughts. My rationale is that she is more about science and research than looking good. She is constantly trying to stay out of jail and has been arrested several times. She is a trail blazer, like Dr. Stoll and others who take a stand for what they know to be true.

However, I don't follow her advice on diet, I don't think that's her field. She's all about research.

All I really know is, I took one look around the gastroenteroglist office at the miserable skeletons in the waiting room, desperately clutching their insurance card in one hand and a prescription for predinsone in the other. I realized then they had no answers for me. What's worse it was clear they weren't going to look for any. I thank God for people that do.

I don't know what you are dealing with, but if it's intestinal it's worth a try.

You really can't judge a book by it's cover.


Hope this helps

Hope this helps.



Re: In other words she looks "hounded" as in critical peers & AMA?

Posted by Donna E. on August 23, 2002 at 12:18:35:

In Reply to: In other words she looks "hounded" as in critical peers & AMA? posted by Gregory on August 22, 2002 at 20:20:03:

When I have a question for Walt, I ask him straight out. You can see many of my other posts to individuals where I have asked Walt a question. That was in no way a coy third party request, and even if it was, so what? I was wondering if Jon knew how Walt felt about it because of that link he posted. I intend to search to see if anything comes up on it because I am curious what others have felt about it on this board and if it has come up numerous times.

I am really glad it worked for you. You seem to employ of lot of devices in your quest for optimum health. I happen to think that devices aren't needed and are a waste of time and money - for me. I think I can get the same benefits by using my mind and energy alone. So, probably the devices wouldn't work for me, while they work for you.

Whatever stress she is feeling would be countered by her cleansing methods. Sorry, but she looks like she is in terrible health. Maybe she's not, I don't know, but in my opinion, which I am entitled to, she is not credible at this point in time and I agree with Jon. If I decided to take the time and really research thoroughly, maybe I would have a different opinion in the end, but I really don't care to. I saw a picture of her when she was younger, and she looked bad then, but even worse now.

Just as an aside, I had a really bad experience with a doctor that said a bunch of really good stuff and I was convinced she knew what she was doing. I knew she was not in good physical shape (she was obese, skin was terrible and had black eyes as well) before I went to see her, but I discounted it. When I got there, she looked even worse than her picture. Well, $1,000 later for her expert care got me nowhere and she knew nothing about wellness.

I'm sorry, but if someone practices what they preach and doesn't show shining results of it, then I personally can't accept what is being preached as credible.



By Mind and Energy alone

Posted by
Gregory on August 23, 2002 at 13:15:15:

In Reply to: Re: In other words she looks "hounded" as in critical peers & AMA? posted by Donna E. on August 23, 2002 at 12:18:35:

Well done Donna.

I'd like to use my mind and energy alone for healing as I am sure many others would too.
If ti were that simple, I am sure that is what would happen and we would not be having this
cnversation, nor would doctors, allopathic and alternative exist. Neither would there be
the devices which I employ. Your parents would teach you how to heal yourself, and you
would think no more about it.

But that hasn't happened, and we are stuck with the imperfection of what is.

You take for granted that a lot of experimental techniques, modalities, and devices are
somehow defective because they have not been developed and refined to the same level as
life-killing allopathic techniques and devices. Nor is there a constant fight just to
get the information out to the public, let alone educate them with expensive media campaigns.
I think (respectfully) that you need an education on the financial realities of marketing a
medical device or technique that threatens the PTB.

So far you have not posted anything about your Mind and Energy approach, how you go about it,
effects and so on. I've posted numerous times about the devices I use, effects, ancedotal/observable
changes, and what I set out to accomplish. Not everything (for me) has to be a "shining example."
Noticable improvement is enough for me. As an aside, there may be less to see as previous
"experiments" have improved some condition to the point that there isn't enough wrong to make
a noticable difference.
As for Hulda Clark's protocols, I have to agree with Dalimama that they are overwhelming
and that Clark is more of a researcher than a nutritionist.

Last: she has provided a very useful tool, especially for someone in dire straits, but one should
not readily discount intent on the consciousness field of those using it.
The Zapper is cheap enough to buy or make to gauge how well it does on an individual basis, and many
other devices are likewise cheap enough for self-experimentation at least until we get to
that level you aspire to and indeed, we would all like to be at.


Lightwalking,
Gregory




Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money

Posted by Donna E. on August 23, 2002 at 13:25:19:

In Reply to: Re: Culturelle not working....waste of my money posted by Dahlimama on August 23, 2002 at 08:42:18:

Thank you Dahlimama. That was a great description. Maybe I'll get her book and research it a little closer. I think that's the only right thing to do before you feel that something won't work or will work anyway. And, if it doesn't hurt you in any way (even financial), then why not try it?

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Re: By Mind and Energy alone

Posted by Donna E. on August 23, 2002 at 13:51:03:

In Reply to: By Mind and Energy alone posted by Gregory on August 23, 2002 at 13:15:15:

I never said using mind and energy is simple. It isn’t, or like you said, we would all be employing it. It takes learning, work and a knowing of what is way beyond our physical manifestation to use it. (Like that quote “There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.) But, I have used it and it does work. I have experienced it in my past as a child, but growing up and going out into the world, I let go of it and lost it at some point, caving into my father’s strictly physical paradigm and others skepticism, even though I witnessed “miracles” first hand. Not until the Modern Meat thread, was I willing to open up and explore that again. It’s time for me to come back to “spirituality”, “meta-physics” or whatever you want to call it.

You assume that I think life-killing allopathic techniques and devices are developed and refined – I don’t, that’s why I am here considering all the information that is put on this board from you and from other posters. I wasn’t like that in the beginning, if you will remember. And, I don’t think that experimental techniques and modalities are defective. What I meant was, I don’t think I need them myself because I know that I can use my mind and energy alone for healing and cleansing. I personally think that’s what you are doing with your devices. You just happen to need to the devices as an avenue for your energy to manifest itself, and there is nothing wrong with that and it may work for other people too. I just have an alternative way that works for me and may work for other people too.

True, I have not posted about my modalities of using mind and energy. A lot of what I use, I learned as a child in the church of metaphysical fellowship. Their thoughts and ideas were not accepted then (nor, for the most part are they now) and I could not share this information with my peers because they would get defensive and mean or just have a really blank look on their face. I figured that I would just use what I knew worked and I really believe it is what kept me alive through about 2 life threatening illnesses and what has provided a basically strong physical constitution to this day. If I had kept up with these techniques I know I would be a whole and healthy, shining person at this point in my life helping other people to “see the light”. So, I am just coming back and around to this mode of energy manifestation and I am re-learning a lot. I am just not solid enough in it to share at this point. Another thing is, I am still too weak to share it and then be called a crackpot. I can’t hold up as well as you and it starts to make me think I am a crackpot and I need to bring myself back to “reality”. Silly I know, but I really need to work a lot harder and longer before I start sharing.

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