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Mixing Probiotics

Posted by Davey on July 15, 2001 at 00:05:10:

There are lots of different probiotics, I've seen Primal Defense and Flora Source discussed frequently. I'm currently taking Primal Defense.

Question: What about taking both Primal Defense And Flora Source at the same time--cover all bases. Or possibly another combination?



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 13:19:27:

In Reply to: Mixing Probiotics posted by Davey on July 15, 2001 at 00:05:10:

I do this myself. I take Flora Source, Primal Defense, and an isolated strain of yeast called Saccarohmyces Boulardi. It helps heal LGS, it soothes mucus membranes, it raises segretory IgA, it fights candida and helps establish a nice acidic pH.

Keep in mind that PD is a soil-based organism product and Flora Source contains mostly "probiotics". There a few transients in there like L. Salivarius but to the extent of Primal Defense. So,....taking both of them might very well "cover all bases". I spread out my probiotic dosese throughout the day. I take Flora Source first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. Primal Defense and SB get taken 45 minutes before meals.

So in short, go ahead with it. You will know if you are taking too much. You will get loose stools.

Take Care :)



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by real health on July 15, 2001 at 15:55:47:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 13:19:27:


all these people who are using probioticsand herbs, just LIKE THEY ARE MEDECINE. this is not what holistic medecie is. all your doing is treating symptoms with herbs,instead of with meds.alot of people here,take this,or that, for life. well if we are healthy, we dont need supplements for life.even probiotics, shuldnt be needed forever. its funny, everyone is justusing herbs as meds. there is something wrong with this picture. i see mqany healthy people who tae none of these things. i agree they are needed at times, but to get to the root of the problem is to cure it. even hso organisms, many people dont use them,and are fine. many people get candida,and get rid f it in a few months,etc.



Hey Beegs - how have you been? (NMI)

Posted by An Observer..... on July 15, 2001 at 17:08:28:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by real health on July 15, 2001 at 15:55:47:

NMI



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by
Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 17:18:31:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by real health on July 15, 2001 at 15:55:47:

Yes, many people use herbs and probiotics like medicine because they are sick. However the probiotics and herbs, have very little, if any unwanted side effects. Multiple courses of antibiotics can cause a host of digestive problems. The symptoms of these problems can be treated by meds, but the herbs and probiotics, along with SR, mentioned on this board get to the root of the problem. If you are healthy, you won't need probiotics, but most of the people on this board ARE NOT HEALTHY. That's why they are here. Many people do get rid of candida an a few months. Many others do not. Intestinal dysbiosis can be much more complicated then just getting rid of candida. Parasites, pathogenic bacteria, etc. can also be present, and may not be easy to get rid of. What the hell is so funny about people using safer substances to treat their conditions? Is not wanting to toxify your liver or cause other problems, really that funny? I'm sorry that many of us weren't blessed with great health like you were.



Here's an interesting link re probiotics

Posted by Joe on July 15, 2001 at 18:42:51:

In Reply to: Mixing Probiotics posted by Davey on July 15, 2001 at 00:05:10:

http://www.mercola.com/2001/jul/11/probiotics.htm

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You're right. I Should have recognized the "5 year old" grammar. NMI

Posted by
Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 21:32:04:

In Reply to: Hey Beegs - how have you been? (NMI) posted by An Observer..... on July 15, 2001 at 17:08:28:

NMI



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 22:17:25:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by real health on July 15, 2001 at 15:55:47:

I firmly agree with you. However, maintaining a proper flora balance is not easy these days and it certainly does not hurt to take a good probiotic, even regularly. It's good insurance. This is the list of supplements I take every day:

1) Probiotics - prevention
2) L-glutamine - can't get enough from food. I workout so
I need the extra L-glutamine
3) Digestive enzymes with COOKED foods - if you don't take
enzymes with cooked foods, your body HAS to use its
enzymes to digest the food. All of us have an "enzyme
account". Once it's empty, it is hard to recover
4) Green food supplement - insurance policy
5) Glucosmine/MSM/chondroitin - I am a pianist and I abuse my upper body more than most people. I need the extra support.

So, you can see, I have tailored my prevention program to my specific needs. This is not treating a symptom. This is working on preventing a major problem. If I had clogged arteries, I would take modified citrus pectin. If I had cancer, I would take MGN-3. These compounds help to get to the root of these problems. Indeed, as you said, most people use herbs in place of drugs but to be honest, it's better than using the drugs in most places. Myself, Dr. Stoll, and many others discuss regularly the power of prevention, and getting to the root of the problem not merely treating a symptom. Anyone who simply takes a few supplements without thought, and eats a diet not suitable for their bodies, will eventually run into trouble. I always say that it is easier to prevent a disease than to treat it. I believe there are some essential supplements out there that can help prevent disease. I only use supplements that have been clinically proven in the clinical setting. Also remember that for people who are chronically ill or have been ill for some time, it takes longer to reverse the problems. I know because I have been there. Your words are true and should be taken seriously. However, I do believe we are working towards the root of things here.



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by beegs on July 16, 2001 at 00:02:23:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 17:18:31:


lighten up sickboy, im not in good health,and have been ill on this board for a year. your illness may make you bitter, but relax. i was simply stating, that after a time of usin herbs, we should get well. we shoudnt need to take them for years. try homeopathy,and see what i mean



Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by beegs on July 16, 2001 at 00:03:30:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 17:18:31:


lighten up sickboy, im not in good health,and have been ill on this board for a year. your illness may make you bitter, but relax. i was simply stating, that after a time of usin herbs, we should get well. we shoudnt need to take them for years. try homeopathy,and see what i mean

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Re: You're right. I Should have recognized the "5 year old" grammar. NMI

Posted by beegs on July 16, 2001 at 00:04:50:

In Reply to: You're right. I Should have recognized the "5 year old" grammar. NMI posted by Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 21:32:04:


i was never hiding my name, yes it is i,beegs the barbarian.

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Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by Vince F on July 16, 2001 at 00:38:33:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by Helping you on July 15, 2001 at 22:17:25:

why isn't it easy to keep a proper flora balance unless you
are taking antibiotics ??

VF

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Re: Mixing Probiotics

Posted by Vince F on July 16, 2001 at 03:54:14:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by beegs on July 16, 2001 at 00:02:23:

I take suppliments because they Help. When I find the right
one I find that I don't have to take them after a short time
so I know I have found the Right one. Trying different
things can tell me what the problem actually is but what the
items are said to do. I am surprized that many things Said
to help, actually Do so it isn't all hype.

VF

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Re: Primal Defense timing

Posted by Reader and PD user on July 16, 2001 at 09:42:39:

In Reply to: Re: Mixing Probiotics posted by Think before you write on July 15, 2001 at 17:18:31:

I know this is slightly off the subject, but how necessary is it to take Primal Defense on an empty stomach? That is, is it okay to take it first thing in the morning when the stomach is totally empty and then eat breakfast? If not, what is the minimum time one should one wait before eating breakfast? How many hours after eating can one take it?
And is 3 months of taking 2 per day long enough to irradicate parasites and bad flora?



Re: Primal Defense timing (What do probiotics do?) Archive

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 16, 2001 at 10:10:26:

In Reply to: Re: Primal Defense timing posted by Reader and PD user on July 16, 2001 at 09:42:39:

Hi, Reader.

Probiotics do not eradicate parasites. They reestablish normal colonic flora so the environment is unfriendly to them coming back (and sometimes even discourage them from staying).

Hope this helps.

Walt

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