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Scoliosis - alternative treatments

Posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

My 13 year old has just been diagnosed with scoliosis. A 46 degree curve in thoracic region and 20 degree in lumbar. I have been on the internet almost nonstop since the diagnosis primarily because the recommendation from the orthopedist is "SURGERY". They fuse the vertebrae in question (in this case only in the upper/mid back) and I have heard horror stories of the pain and suffering subsequent.

I am looking for proven alternatives to keep her back from curving and twisting. I have come across Egoscue and Rolfing and many others. Does anyone have any experience with anything that actually works. I cannot find case studies on anything "natural" thus far.

Needless to say, I am pretty scared to authorize the surgery route on my daughter.

HELP!
Shelly



Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments

Posted by belle on November 29, 2002 at 14:28:03:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

My 12 y/o son has scoliosis, 23*, his is lower in his spine. The brace is very uncomfortable, he wears it when sleeping, but it's so uncomfortable he takes it off in his sleep. We've tried wearing it during the day, but it's so hard. He had a brain tumor when he was 4, he has extremely poor balance, must use a walker to walk...when he falls when wearing the brace he can't stop himself and goes over just like a tree.

Like you, the orthopedist says even with the brace he will eventualy need surgery. I've also heard the horror stories. I'd be most interested in any alternatives you hear about.

Poor Kids!

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Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments

Posted by another mom on November 29, 2002 at 14:51:12:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

My daughter was diagnosed with scoliosis when she was 5. I don't have any degree measurements. I took her to a chiropractor 3 times a week for a year. Then once a month through her growing years. Her back is fine now.

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Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments

Posted by Ricky DC on November 29, 2002 at 17:53:18:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

as a chiropractor, I see many scoliosis cases.
proper adjustments will do wonders, but they MUST come along with serious supplementation, exercise and diet changes, or the results will be disappointing.
I have seen cases of surgical operations that almost gave me tears, thinking that a revered, respected "human being" can conceive doing something like that to another man, and walk away, not only unpunished, but with honors.....
I also see plenty of severe, adult or old scoliosis cases, that refused surgery. they still live a normal, decent life, with a crooked spine maybe, but all in one piece, and w/out major "traumas".
everyday, I mean EVERYDAY, somebody show up in my practice with some surgery booked, be it herniated disc, varicose veins, inguinal hernia, carpal tunnel, cysts, fibroids.....
none of them that accepted my opinion to refuse surgery ever regretted it...
none.
and, no, not that "I" healed'em...
no doctor's hands alone can heal those problems...
they only listened to what I had to say, felt it made sense, and decided to give it a try.



Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Helping You on November 29, 2002 at 22:02:47:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

There is an alternative medical treatment called Neurocranial Restructuring (NCR) that can reduce or completely eliminate scoliosis. The premise of the procedure is to re-balance the skull over the spine. The theory is that the spine contorts to balance the skull. If the skull can be re-balanced, the spinal distortions go away. The treatment produces remarkable results. I have undergone the treatment myself and is completely safe. I suggest that you go to www.google.com and type in Neurocranial Restructuring. Click on the first website that pops up. You can read about it and even see photo results. I highly recommend this treatment. Scoliosis can start to diminish in as little as 4 days of treatment

-HY



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Nutmeg on November 30, 2002 at 01:41:34:

In Reply to: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 29, 2002 at 22:02:47:

Hi Shelly,

I agree with Helping You about investigating neurocranial restructuring.

I don't have severe scoliosis, but I do have some that has intensified in my adult years, along with numerous other structural misalignments that have been accumulating for the last 20+ years. Rolfing helped me a lot with the muscle and connective tissue pain, but after two 4-treatment series of NCR from Dr. Dean Howell, I am feeling some additional improvement. Check out his website for more information www.drdeanhowell.com. I would think that NCR would be even more beneficial in a young person who didn't have years and years of accumulated body trauma and stress to overcome.

Depending on where you live, you may need to travel to find a practitioner, but I believe it is worth looking into as a first resort, rather than a last. Surgery can always be done if absolutely necessary, but it definitely can't be undone. I applaud you for looking into less drastic alternatives for your daughter.

Wishing you the best,

Nutmeg



Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments (Archive.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 30, 2002 at 08:04:35:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

Hi, Shelly.

At this age, Rolfing, Alexander Technique and properly done SR (Meditating With Children by Rozman) are the solutions to scoloisis! A whole foods diet will also give her body the micronutrients needed to repair what has already gone on.

Have you read the scoliosis, SR and bracing archives?

Let us know what you learn and, if you can get the child to do them, how she does. If you impress on her how terrible the scars will look you might get her vanity (so ubiquitous in the teenage girl) to help get her do the alternatives.

Walt

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 30, 2002 at 08:06:17:

In Reply to: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 29, 2002 at 22:02:47:

Thanks, HY.

Keep reminding me! I keep forgetting to include this in my recommendations since I did not know about it when I was still practicing.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments (Archive in Chiropractic.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on November 30, 2002 at 08:07:52:

In Reply to: Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Ricky DC on November 29, 2002 at 17:53:18:

Amen, Doc Ricky.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Scoliosis - alternative treatments

Posted by jeanine williamson on November 30, 2002 at 11:48:16:

In Reply to: Scoliosis - alternative treatments posted by Shelly on November 29, 2002 at 14:16:32:

I was diagnosed with scoliosis when I was in first grade and had to wear a back brace for 8 years. My spine is still messed up, but I don't have any pain with it. As a parent your concerns are justified, but I would NOT put your son through surgery! I inquired about surgery many times and no one will do it because of the complications and risk of infection. There are other alternitives. Please put surgery on the backburner for a bit until you have covered all the bases. I know people who have had this and it is not pleasant. I am not trying to scare you, any surgery is painful... make sure he does the recomended exercises everyday, and one of the important parts of a stright back is strong abdominal muscles as well.

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 14:53:24:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Walt Stoll on November 30, 2002 at 08:06:17:

That's ok Walt. This treatment has taken leaps and bounds in just the past year or two. The results are many times better than they used to be. I am still very amazed at the results people get in such as short amount of time. This truely is a "whole body" therapy because it's not meant to treat a certain spinal abnormality. Because it rebalances the entire body naturally, we don't have to worry about specific problems like many treatments are after. The body puts itself back in alignment naturally. It's amazing. As long as people are continuing to get results, I will continue to post about it and remind you :-)

-HY

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 14:55:18:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Nutmeg on November 30, 2002 at 01:41:34:

Let me know how you feel if you continue your NCR and work up to at least 8 treatment series. NCR is like a snowball, once it gets rolling, you pick up momentum that causes absolutely remarkable changes in the body structure, skull structure, and even facial symmetry. I commend you for taking the "plunge" into NCR :-)

-HY



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Jan S. on November 30, 2002 at 17:10:28:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 14:55:18:

Thanks HY. I too did a series based on your glowing comments on your own results and what I gleaned from the things I read and the doctors I talked to. It's interesting you say that it picks up momentum as to results, as you do more series. I did one series (4 treatments) and initially felt a striking effect - but no longer. (I have a mild scoliosis that is not noticeable to others but it is to me.) Either (1) I've gotten used to it and integrated it as far as it went, (2) it won't work for me, or (3) the best is still ahead. (That about covers it!) Since I have other priorities for my dollars right now, I probably won't resume treatments for a while. There is something about this treatment that intuitively "feels right" though - not the best way to judge something, but it's a factor in the things that I do. Anyway, just letting you know. I appreciate your comments.



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by belle on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:43:

In Reply to: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 29, 2002 at 22:02:47:

This sounds very promising, so much better than surgery...a big plus is he is located in WA state.

Does insurance cover any of this treatment? Are payments accepted?



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine

Posted by leon cavallo on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:55:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Nutmeg on November 30, 2002 at 01:41:34:

I embrace new and unsual things, espcially in the field of hands on medicine. However, the site drdeanhowell.com SCREAMS, "SCAM!" It isnt, I bet, but the marketing there is ridiculous...joining a club ? which affords you the priviledge of paying $900 for four treatments ? at a location that is constantly changing ? etc

This methods are ususally the cloaking of hokum.

Does anyone else offer NCR ? I cant see waiting a half a year or traveling half a continent to try this.

I love manual medicine and have read everything I can about it in various forms. I have tried as many types as I could-- up to seven now-- from various appraoches and traditions, even going back as far as 70 years. Each one-- along the lines of Jan's comments-- has provided a fantastic initial boost of results. A few more powerfully than others, but it has been remarkable of each of these manual medicines to be able to allow "natural correction" of ills appearing unlike and unrelated to local structural issues.

Anyone else had many different types ? Or had NCR from a doctor other than Howell ?



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 23:03:05:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by belle on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:43:

It depends on the doctor. NCR actually gets to the cause of your scoliosis. Surgery can't do that. So, it's worth it, even if you have to pay mostly out of pocket

-HY

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine

Posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 23:07:15:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine posted by leon cavallo on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:55:

NCR has stood the test of time. It has been around since the 1940's and has vastly changed (for the better) over the years. I have had 4 series done. I have seen Dr. Howell, Dr. Hauser in chicago, and Dr. Arrnadt in Florida. The therapy is for real. The results are real. I have researched hundreds of natural therapies. Out of every hundred I research, I may find 2 that are the real thing. NCR is one of them. The only way you will know, is to experience it for yourself.

-HY



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 23:21:19:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Jan S. on November 30, 2002 at 17:10:28:

Your result is typical. Many people experience a short-lived benefit after the first series. The skull plates have shifted and have caused profound bodily changes. However, like a subluxation that has been there for years, the skull plates often find their way back to their original shape causing a temporary reoccurance of symptoms. After 4-6 series have been completed, the effects stay permanent. It's like that subluxation. When a chiropractor puts it back into alignment, it often goes right back out because it is used to being "out". The same is true for the skull plates and sphenoid bone. They can be stubborn in the begining but they ALWAYS move and eventually stay permenantly. I always tell people to try to commit to getting at leasdt 4 series done. Most people will get permenant benefit by then. Some get permenant benefit after 1 series. It depends on the person. Just know that if you get some sort of benefit, even short-lived, during your 1st series, you can bet that you will DEFINITELY benefit from further treatments. If someone gets NO benefit by the 6th treatment, it's fair to say that that person will not get benefits. However, some stubborn cases have required up to 20 treatments. The worse the physical/emotional shape of the person is in, the more profound the changes will be and those people will often see results sooner. So, if you can afford to go back and complete at least 4 series without waiting TOO LONG between treatments, I feel strongly that you would benefit greatly. Remember, it took YEARS to get in the position you are in. It's a miracle that NCR produces ANY positive effects in such a short time (4 days to a couple months). Most chiropractors will tell you to give them at least 6 months to get things going. If you did 2 series per month, you'd have 4 series accomplished in only 2 months. I am sure that many people have "tried" NCR, had their treatment series, and went on with their lives wondering if that's all they can expect. For those people, they will never know. Most NCR doctors will tell you up front that it is going to take 4-8 treatments on average before you notice profound permenant changes. The good news though, is that those 8 series can be accomplished in just 4 months. Someday, I will post before and after pictures of myself to show you all the profound changes it makes. Until then, you must experience it for yourself. I also recommend a treatment called PROLOTHERAPY for tendonitis and ligament laxity. It too takes 4-6 treatments to get the effect but it's well worth it, especially for people that would be having surgery instead. Prolotherapy is peer-reviewed, and has been subjected to clinical studies with nothing but raving reviews. I post on nothing but the most reliable and profound therapies in existance. I am researching some new therapies now and will post when I am satisfied of their effectiveness. I hope this helps you or someone you love

-HY



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis

Posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 02:58:43:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by belle on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:43:

Hi belle,

It depends on your insurance, I'm sure. I doubt my current plan will pay anything, because they are very much against most alternative stuff. Have submitted my claims and am till waiting to see what happens. I will have a new plan starting in January that covers naturopaths, so I am hopeful my next treatments will be covered, at least in part. If not, I will have to continue anyway.

I don't know if Dr. Howell has a payment plan, but he does accept credit cards if you want to do it that way. He asks for a deposit after you make your appointment and the balance is due at the end of the treatment. If you make your appointment well in advance, you could spread the cost out somewhat that way.

Let us know what you decide!

Nutmeg

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...

Posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 03:14:01:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 14:55:18:

I doubt I would have taken that plunge (or even found out about NCR) if you hadn't already been there and done that and posted about it on this BB!! Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and educating so many about it.

At this point, I am planning to have two more series done in Jan. and Feb. The distance I have to travel, road conditions this time of year, the time factor of the four days away from home, and the expense of the treatments and lodging are definitely limiting factors for me getting it done more often. For someone who is not very well or strong, two treatments a month might be a bit overwhelming. I'm going 4-6 weeks between treatments, at least at first.

Also, at my last treatment, we determined that there are some emotional issues related to past traumas that are surfacing as pretty significant barriers to healing in key body locations. The treatments are not really powerful enough to overcome those barriers, so I'm taking some time out to address them and hoping for better results in the future.

Overall, my experience has been very positive, but not as dramatic as I had initially hoped. I'm a bit of a tough case, but I have seen a lot of people show very significant changes in just one treatment of the four-day series.

Nutmeg




Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine

Posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 03:30:12:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine posted by leon cavallo on November 30, 2002 at 19:52:55:

Hi Leon,

I know what you mean about websites like that. It does sound like a scam, but I can assure you it's not. Dr. Howell admitted that he's not very good at marketing. Hopefully someone will come along to lend a hand with that aspect of his practice. He just wants to treat people. At least his website and publications are not riddled with misspelled words and poor grammar like some of the more questionable ones out there!! I'm not sure why the club exists--no doubt some legal aspect of the business license. He does have a lot of locations because he is trying to reach a lot of people and he adds a new one when he can get about 30 people to come. That makes his travel and time worthwhile. When someone local can help set that up for him, he goes. He says people fly in to see him from all over the world at many of the locations, and he's trying to get closer to where they are. He tries to pick locations near airports where people can get lodging at a discounted rate. For once I'm within 200 miles of one of the locations where he goes frequently. Usually I'm the one who has to do all the traveling and wait long periods of time for an appointment, so I can sympathize. He is training new doctors every year, so you may just get lucky enough to get someone trained and experienced in your area soon, if you don't already. Somewhere online there is a directory of NCR practitioners.

Nutmeg

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Jan S..

Posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 13:23:12:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Jan S. on November 30, 2002 at 17:10:28:

Hi Jan,

I had a similar result after my first NCR series...immediate relief of pain and lessening of symptoms which lasted about a week. Then the old patterns started returning, but not as bad as before. At my next treatment I asked Dr. Howell about this. He said people often return to parallel alignments, where the patterns and body alignments slip back parallel to the initial positions, but not as far out as they were before. I hope this makes sense to you--it certainly did in my case. Unfortunately none of the before pictures for our treatment group got saved :( so all I have is two after pictures for comparison. I'm looking forward to my next couple of series to see if the snowball effect that Helping You mentioned really happens. I hope you can find a way to continue with the NCR soon.

Wishing you the best,
Nutmeg



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine

Posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 21:42:57:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 23:07:15:

hi

thanks nutmeg and HY

i found DC not far away who has the training. how much i hope to find out. i do want to try this.

perhaps the strange club thing the Dr Howell has set up offers some special protection from persecution from the anti-alternative gestapo.

Has NCR been around that long ? I am just learnign about it now, but Dr Howell seems to claim that he invented it on his site ? Anyone ?

Hope to be able to develop an infomred opinion soon.!

(in other news, beginning another rolfing ten tomorrow!)



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG !

Posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 21:49:38:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY... posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 03:14:01:

hi

you know, everyone that knew rolfing and knew me thought that i would have lots of emotional issues that could be better released from rolfing.

i did not.
i also did not have pain.

i believe this is because i had eaten a perfect whole foods macrobiotic diet adjusted for my specific needs and type... it is basically that i consume nothing that is not only entirely good for me-- meaning NOTHING!

that is also the source of my complete emotional control and "peace" that fade when i eat enough bad things.

more than a few ways to break down those barriers !

also, i have found large doses of powerful energy- moving herbs help...a day of frequent garlic and ginger consumption and then some exersice and the SR and then some type of body work has providede amazing boosts !



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Nutmeg/HY

Posted by Jan S. on December 02, 2002 at 03:26:41:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Jan S.. posted by Nutmeg on December 01, 2002 at 13:23:12:

Hi Nutmeg

What you and HY are saying tends to validate my initial experience, which had left me with certain doubts as it did you. For a few days, my postural lopsidedness simply vanished and I was "centered." When I go out walking is when I habitually notice this the most. It's undeniable that it did change, for it's simply impossible to correct something like this myself by any act of will or physical compensation in the other direction, try as I may. I had not yet gotten back to the doctor to follow up on the mixed outcome - so this was certainly a timely discussion! Thanks for the "nudge" & I wish you well with your upcoming series. best wishes Jan

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis - to HY

Posted by Jan S. on December 02, 2002 at 03:55:15:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis posted by Helping You on November 30, 2002 at 23:21:19:

How long do you realistically think is NOT TOO long to wait between series, do you have a sense of this? I had series #1 (4 treatments) in mid-September. I'd hope not to lose the gains by waiting too long. (My skeptical side keeps asking me ARE YOU SURE you're not kidding yourself about the benefits?? (placebo effect, etc.).. But I just do not think so, as I explained to Nutmeg.) The doctor was fairly open-ended about when it would be best to come back. Thanks, Helping You, for your good explanations!



Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG ! Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 02, 2002 at 07:49:36:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG ! posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 21:49:38:

Thanks, Leon.

From what I know of Neurocranial Restructuring (admittedly very little) it is based upon the same theories as Rolfing and Hellerwork. ALL of which are valid so far as I am concerned.

Walt



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine

Posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 01:20:35:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and HOW to GET it and other manual medicine posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 21:42:57:

NCR used be known as "endonasal bilateral therapy" as early as the 1940's. However, Dr. Howell "upgraded" the technique and improved upon it. NCR as we know it has been around since the early 1980's. Nobody has ever been made worse from the therapy. Not many therapies have that kind of track record, not even chiropractic.

Try to commit to doing 4, 4-day series to get the full effects

-HY

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG ! Archive.

Posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 01:22:58:

In Reply to: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG ! Archive. posted by Walt Stoll on December 02, 2002 at 07:49:36:

With the therapies you mentioned, the goal is one in the same. Each therapy just has a different way of getting there. Thanks

-HY

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Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis - to HY

Posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 01:24:41:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis - to HY posted by Jan S. on December 02, 2002 at 03:55:15:

Try to wait about one month between series. The body needs to adjust to the new cranial balance and doing another series too soon could negate some of the effects

-HY



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring - to HY (waiting longer time btwn. series)

Posted by Jan S. on December 03, 2002 at 01:41:13:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis - to HY posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 01:24:41:

I didn't explain my question too well! It's been 3 months since I did the series. Am I already losing gains? or is there no problem waiting an additional month or two.



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Leon Cavallo

Posted by Nutmeg on December 03, 2002 at 01:51:09:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for HY...ATTN NUTMEG ! posted by leon cavallo on December 01, 2002 at 21:49:38:

Hey Leon,

Lucky you, having no pain from Rolfing! I am thankful I had my rolfing series, because it was the first inkling I had that there were deeply buried emotional issues linked to my chronically painful areas. I couldn't believe the fear I felt at the time those areas were worked on, but I stifled my response. I thought those emotions were all gone, but it turns out they were imbedded in the joints and tissues all these years. I'm sure it's hard for some people to imagine that past traumas can be remembered in the physical body, but I know that it's true. Rolfing couldn't break through them and neither could neurocranial restructuring. Now that those emotions have been partially released through other means, the bodywork techniques, diet changes, and new supplements are humming along doing their thing. There is an amazing synergy going on in my life right now and I am getting major pain relief.

My best to you,
Nutmeg



Re: Neurocranial Restructuring - to HY (waiting longer time btwn. series)

Posted by Helping You on December 03, 2002 at 20:24:06:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring - to HY (waiting longer time btwn. series) posted by Jan S. on December 03, 2002 at 01:41:13:

ok. It's my opinion that it's best to wait no longer than 2 months between series until you have reached a total of 4-6 series. After that point, the momentum has reached a point that longer time can be taken between series. After people have made all the gains they are going to make, some get a series of NCR per year just as a preventative. I hope that helps

-HY

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Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Leon Cavallo (Archive in wellness

Posted by Walt Stoll on December 04, 2002 at 09:53:05:

In Reply to: Re: Neurocranial Restructuring and scoliosis...for Leon Cavallo posted by Nutmeg on December 03, 2002 at 01:51:09:

Thanks, Nutmeg.

The power of wellness. This is the functional definition of holism.

Namaste`

Walt

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