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Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems

Posted by Helena on April 15, 2001 at 21:43:31:

Hi Dr Stoll, I'd appreciate your advice on this problem. Seven years ago I had a bad fall which jarred my spine and neck. A few months later I got low backache, just after that started, I stood up from table where I'd been bent over, shoulders hunched, reading and nearly fainted. It took a couple of hours to recover fully, but from then on I started feeling off-balance when I walked, and my right leg felt a different length. Gradually I got a feeling of vertigo from my right ear, which was always worse if I was under stress, but had never happened before the fall. This became a permanent sensation after about a year. Various docs from ENTs to neurologists examined me and only found something was upsetting my right inner ear, but the vestibular system itself was fine. What had for years been a clicking in my right jaw then started getting stiff and my jaw went off center and I got blinding headaches all day, every day. I found a chiropractor who I still go to and he helped a lot with my back and neck but told me he couldn't cure the vertigo or jaw as he didn't know why the muscles of my neck wouldn't stay relaxed. I read various internet boards to decide what to do and finally chose a dentist to help with the tmj who brought my jaw forward and out which relieved the headaches, and to sort out the vertigo he sent me to a cranial osteopath who told me various bones in my head were jammed together. I've now been going to this osteopath every couple of weeks for over a year, but sometimes after a treatment I come away feeling slightly better, sometimes no different, but often I feel much worse than I did when I arrived for it. This leaves me feeling 'slow' unable to think straight and very dizzy and sick, and I have to keep going back to him each day until he resolves this reaction, which he thinks is caused by the membrane around my head twisting. This is not only costing a fortune (I've had to pay for all the treatment privately as none of it's covered by my insurance) but is now making me feel very hopeless about the whole situation and quite honestly some of the things he says make me wonder if he's mad or I am! I was taught Autogenics some years ago and having read your archives I've started practising it again twice a day. However the osteopath has said my problems are too far advanced for me to do anything myself to help, and he doesn't even believe any exercises would help me. Whenever I ask for his long-term prognosis he asks for just another couple of months to sort everything out. Do you think it is normal to have such bad reactions to cranial treatment after a year of starting it? Has anyone else found this to happen? And do you think that I could cure this myself even if it's a combination of injury and stress? Finally do you think I have missed anything or anyone who could help cure this? All that my family docs will offer are drugs which I don't want except as a very last resort. Thank you for your help and for this very informative board. Helena.



Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this......

Posted by Sharon R. on April 15, 2001 at 22:22:38:

In Reply to: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Helena on April 15, 2001 at 21:43:31:

Helena,

I empathize with what you are experiencing with your vertigo, as I have had this condition (although NOT dizzy, more off balance for 4 years. "Seemed" to have come out of nowhere.<-- however, undoubtedly chronic stress build up.
Have you tried rolfing? That may help with the persistant stiffness in your neck immediately, but consistent effective SR (autogenics or other techinque) 2X/day (20 minutes/each) will help you in the long run to resolve this problem.
Vertigo, from any source can be VERY draining on the brain and the body, so one can also become very tired on a daily basis - vestibular excercises and daily walking may help you a lot (and give you motivation and symptom relief)in the meantime while you are working on a permanent resolution.
Just my 2 cents while you are waiting for a response from Dr. Stoll. Please check the archives on vertigo.

Take care,

Sharon



Re: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this......- What about crannial adjustments?

Posted by Barb on April 16, 2001 at 00:34:47:

In Reply to: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this...... posted by Sharon R. on April 15, 2001 at 22:22:38:

My mother-in-law had to have crannial adjustments. One ear was higher than the other. Before the adjustments her eyesight was getting really bad. She had to find a specialist, not all chiropractors can do them.
take care
Barb



Re: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this......- What about crannial adjustments?

Posted by Sharon R. on April 16, 2001 at 01:10:55:

In Reply to: Re: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this......- What about crannial adjustments? posted by Barb on April 16, 2001 at 00:34:47:

Hi Barb,

Sounds like Helena has been doing Cranio adjustments via her Osteopath for quite some time, will varying results. I have done this as well, and it can certainly be the answer for some, at least in the short term.
There are SO many things that play into vertigo symptoms and it can be immensely frustrating to locate the where the exact symptoms are coming from. I have a friend (who is a chiropractor) and he had vertigo for 4 years. Needless to say, he tried every modality in the book - chiro, cranio sacral therapy, on and on, and sometimes nothing at all. Oddly, after 4 years, his symptoms slowly began to diminish and to this day - he has no idea why.
Perhaps trying various practioners is also a possibility. This has only been my personal experience.

Take care and thanks for your input! :)

Sharon




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Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 17, 2001 at 08:04:01:

In Reply to: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Helena on April 15, 2001 at 21:43:31:

Hi, Helena.

The common denominator behind all of your problems is bracing. See the glossary and archives about this.

In the meantime, either Alexander Technique OR Feldenkrais would help. Hellerwork would also help you a lot.

Let us know how you do.

Walt



Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems

Posted by Helena on April 17, 2001 at 14:36:39:

In Reply to: Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Walt Stoll on April 17, 2001 at 08:04:01:

Hi Dr Stoll,

Thank you very much for this reply. I shall order a couple of the books mentioned in your Glossary, plus a biofeedback machine and start practising SR - Autogenics again for the moment as I already know it, but then possibly a different form when I've gone through the books. I've also found some websites on the Alexander technique, Feldenkrais and Hellerwork, and will see which practitioners are in my area and get started on one of those. I'll let you know how I get on, thanks again,

Helena



Re: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this......

Posted by Helena on April 17, 2001 at 14:51:30:

In Reply to: Dr Kim: You may want to also take a look at this...... posted by Sharon R. on April 15, 2001 at 22:22:38:

Hi Sharon and Barb,

Thanks for your advice. The vertigo used only to happen when I was stressed, and I tried every kind of alternative treatment I could find, then as it became constant I not only thought I was dying (even more stress!) but couldn't understand why no-one could cure me. Very depressing was the fact that the vestibular exercises nearly made me pass out. Gradually, as you say, fatigue and total loss of ability to deal with 'life' crept in too. Now I shall start looking at it all in another way and do something practical about it - and my lifestyle.

Helena

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Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 19, 2001 at 08:31:14:

In Reply to: Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Helena on April 17, 2001 at 14:36:39:

Hi, Helena.

I would appreciate your sharing the websites for Alexander Technique, Feldenkrais and Hellerwork.

Namaste`

Walt



Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems

Posted by Helena on April 19, 2001 at 19:41:23:

In Reply to: Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Walt Stoll on April 19, 2001 at 08:31:14:

Hi Dr Stoll,

I went back to your Glossary to read about these three techniques and found a link to the Hellerwork site there. It is http://www.hellerwork.com/ This site includes a handbook of exercises, lots of information and a list of teachers around the world. I like the sound of it, but unfortunately there are no teachers in my area of Southern England.

The Feldenkrais site I found is http://www.feldenkrais.com and this one includes lessons online as well as a great deal of information and there are two teachers within 3 and 8 miles of my home!

The Alexander site is http://www.alexandertechnique.com/ and again has a lot of information, an interactive tutorial with others on the way, a personal guidance board and a support and discussion board, but no list of teachers.

I hope this helps others as well and I shall post the addresses at the top of the board too.

Again many thanks for your help,

Helena



Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems (Archive in Rolfing.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on April 21, 2001 at 08:52:24:

In Reply to: Re: Cranial osteopathy for vertigo, tmj and neck problems posted by Helena on April 19, 2001 at 19:41:23:

Thanks, Helena.

I might be mistaken but I think that Roger Golten (author of the definitive text for Hellerwork) lives in southern England.

Walt

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