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I'm not going to type this one word for word I'm just going to give you an idea. But it's implications for the Pilonidal problem are there. Hopefully you read my earlier post regarding how we get the pilonidal this research gives us another insight into that idea. So go to this site to read the entire summary.
Site is Medlineplus, done by reuters health information.
www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_9783.html if you have trouble just do a search and type in the title of the article that's what I did.
Skin with Eczema Contains Fewer Disease Fighters
By Alison McCook weds October 9, 02
This is just my summary of the info.
People that suffer from the most common form of eczema, known as atopic dermatitis, have low levels of natural body substances that help fight off skin infections. This new research may show why eczema sufferers are more likely to develop skin infections from bacteria. This research was done from The New England Journal of Medicine.
Please read this summary it gives some great information. I'ld type it all out but it's a little longer than the other summary I typed. It just gives us another idea of what the Pilonidal may be all about.
I found it pretty interesting.
just another suffer
In Reply to: Pilonidal suffers must read...skin w exzema contain fewer disease fighters posted by just another suffer on October 29, 2002 at 12:30:46:
Hi, Just.
I wonder how many millions were wasted on THIS study?
This has been known for at least 75 years. ANY break in the skin will do the same thing.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Pilonidal suffers must read...skin w exzema contain fewer disease fighters posted by Walt Stoll on October 30, 2002 at 09:05:59:
I'm not sure why you think its a waste, maybe you can inlighten me. To me it shows that the current treatment could be doing more harm than what is available for eczema. And the fact that the study shows fewer pepids (not sure on spelling there) are in skin with eczema and thus making skin infections easier to get and harder to fight with your immune system, without breaking the skin. I'm pretty sure it's common knowledge that if you have a cut or opening infection rates go higher.
You've throw out my eariler post also by stating this has been done before and it has. And the cleft lift procedure has been shown to have a highter rate of wound healing and lower post op infections. I agree no long term recurrance rate has ever been done. But for people suffering from very bad flare-ups and failed surgery this may be a good idea for them to consider. Not to mention the info on no deep tissue removal is new to me. I don't recall them mentioning that in the previous cleft lift procedures.
I respect your opinion even if on some issues I may disagree and I would appreciate it if you would give me more insight as to why these two studies you feel is a waste of time. For me and what I've learned these are very interesting studies. The failed surgery study even stated that with this newer way of understanding the pilonidal nonsurgerial approaches should be considered. Which you do support. Of course time is the best study as you said. What happens in 10 or 20 years?
Thanks
just another suffer
In Reply to: Re: Pilonidal suffers must read...skin w exzema contain fewer disease fighters posted by just another suffer on October 30, 2002 at 18:52:26:
Its sufferer, not suffer! for the love of god... get it right! :)
In Reply to: Re: Pilonidal suffers must read...skin w exzema contain fewer disease fighters posted by T.T. on October 30, 2002 at 19:16:16:
It's I don't care I can pick any name I want can't you get that. I didn't pick it for it's grammer, don't you have a creative mind?
Go to the corner and learn to mind your own business :)
just another SUFFER
In Reply to: Re: Pilonidal suffers must read...skin w exzema contain fewer disease fighters posted by just another suffer on October 30, 2002 at 18:52:26:
Thanks, Just.
I really wish you understood the cellular and developmental causes of this condition. Perhaps it is I who do not understand. However: "The best indication of the validity of any theory is when it explains all of the observed phenomena." There is not one phenomenon of a pilonidal condition that is not explained by what I was taught in medical school (with micrograms and developmental facts). Not one "modern theory" explains these observed phenomena half as well.
Since post-surgical recurrances (pilonidal) can happen 40 years later, NO surgical technique can be properly evaluated in less than 40 years. Since is seems that surgeons forget after something has been proven for 20+ years, you can expect that these "studies" will be repeated in the literature about that often. This observed happening is a consequence of the "publish of perish" mentality that even pervades the medical professional hierarchy. They have to have SOMETHING to publish!
All you have to do about the eczema study is take a look at the forest rather than just the trees. You will see that the same basic causes behind eczema also underlie all immunity. "Post Hoc Ergo Hoc." is alive and well in the land!
Walt
In Reply to: Re: look beyond the grammer...... posted by just another suffer on October 31, 2002 at 11:25:27:
nmi
In Reply to: Re: look beyond the grammer...... posted by just another suffer on October 31, 2002 at 11:25:27:
OK OK, you are entitled to any name you like, I dont think I would go as far as saying its "creative". I dont like it! Makes me cringe every time I see it. Dont know why. Its kinda like when you hear fingernails scraping down a blackboard.
For gods sake, its SUFFERER!!!
Do I really have to go in the corner now. (pouting) I no like the corner! LOL
In Reply to: Re: look beyond the grammer...... posted by just another suffer on October 31, 2002 at 11:25:27:
you only show your illiteracy with that name.
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