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Walt
You mentioned a while ago after some expereinces that I had recently, that I should seek out a kundalini yoga teacher. Well, I have called around several yoga schools, looked in the New Age Magazine, and havent been able to find one out my way.
I was wondering if you may have some other suggestions. I am starting a psychic development course in a couplke of weeks, but thats not specifically to do with kundalini awakening.
Any other ideas what I can do?
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 21:55:02:
Hello Miss Bliss,
Just curious, Have you been initiated for meditation by a guru ?.
Nateshan
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Nateshan on September 14, 2003 at 22:08:15:
yes. Although he wasnt a "guru", just an initiator into a form of meditation I previously learnt.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 22:18:00:
TM?
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by R. on September 14, 2003 at 22:34:05:
yep.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 22:18:00:
Not sure if this will help .. Check it out ....
http://www.ishafoundation.org
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Nateshan on September 14, 2003 at 22:50:31:
Thanks for the site, Nateshan.
I just got through listening to Saghdguru. He has the most peaceful, relaxing voice. Put me into a nice relaxation just listening to him.
Do you practise IshaYoga, Nateshan, and have you been to any of those talks?
I should mention I am in Australia.
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 23:12:02:
Hello Miss Bliss,
Yes, I practice ISHA yoga (Raja Yoga Pranayams and Shoonya Meditation). I have attended ISHA Yoga and Bhava Spandana programs here is the US.
Sorry, I dont think SadhGuru travels to australia. But if he does in the future, he usually gives a free introductory speach before the start of all ISHA programs. I have had some most wonderful experiences during the bhava spandana program which made me more receptive and helped me to meditate better. Yes, I have been to his talks (The ISHA programs).
If you are intrested, You can try a book "Encounter the Enlightned" which is basically a text form of his speach.
Many Thanks,
Nateshan
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 22:35:14:
Can you say that you have definitely benefitted from it?
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by R. on September 15, 2003 at 00:28:49:
yep.
But with meditation, you eventually get to a point of growth and change, where you need to find another method that continues that growth, otherwise you tend to get stagnant, and no longer experience the same benefits.
Definitely got benefit from TM. Would I spend the same amount of dollars again to learn it? Nope.
Its basically just a mantra meditation.
In Reply to: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 21:55:02:
Thanks, Miss.
Kundalini Yoga is one of the most esoteric, mystical and energetic form of yogas. Australia is the closest continent to the world centers of kundalini yoga (India and the Far East).
Have you tried your local college or university's bulletin board?
John White's classic: "Kundalini, Evolution or Enlightenment", Anchor Books, 1979 has a listing of Kundalini Resources in the back. One you might try right now is: Kundalini Research Foundation, Ltd., 475 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10016. Surely, they would know of a center in Australia!
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 14, 2003 at 22:18:00:
Hi, Miss.
I am surprised since Australia is the closest continent to the world centers of Kundalini Yoga in the world: India and the Far East.
Have you tried the bulletin boards at the local college or university?
John White's classic: "Kundalini, Evolution or Enlightenment", published by Anchor in 1979, has a number of references in the back. One you might start with right now is: Kundalini Research Foundation, Ltd., 475 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10016. Surely they would know the address and phone numbers of centers in Australia.
Let us know what you learn.
Namaste`
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 15, 2003 at 03:47:16:
That's what the founder of Centerpointe Institute says. Do you just repeat his words or is it what you've found personally? And if it's really so, I wonder how Tibetan (or whatever) monks continue evolving using meditation. Not that I can prove that they do, of course.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini (Archive in energy medicine.) posted by Walt Stoll on September 15, 2003 at 08:04:51:
I havent tried the local universities.Didnt even think abou it. But somehow I doubt they would have something as specialized as kundalini yoga. the only courses I have ever heard of at the colleges here are the more popular ones, such as hatha yoga, tai chi, qi gong. But possibly they offer it. I will need to make more phone calls.
I was surprised that I wasnt able to get a hold of anyone inthis field. The part of Australia I live in is themost isolated part of Australia, but I thought there would be SOMEONE teaching it here.
I am not giving up just yet though. I am determined. My "guru" is back in town so I will see if I can find out more.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by R. on September 15, 2003 at 16:15:40:
Actually this is what i have found, plus Walt mentioned that this can happen after a while of meditating. I found this so with TM. You will notice it yourself, R, if you sstart practising regularly. After a while, you just dont reach the same stage in meditation.Seems to be a lot of change/growth must take place when I meditate, as I quickly (after several months) find I need another method to gain the same benefits and get into alpha state.
I go very deep, very quickly in meditation, but seem to lack the discipline, unfortunately.
Any ideas how to instill discipline? I do really well with meditation for a couple ofmonths everyday, and then slack off.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss on September 15, 2003 at 18:59:32:
I have an idea, but I'd need to translate it into English for you first. But the essence is the following. The method can be used for concentrating on what you think you have to do but don't feel like doing. It can also be used to remember something.
It consists of 3 steps:
1. Make an effort to concentrate on the issue.
2. Relax and tell yourself that you don't need it.
3. Notice a desire to do what you didn't feel like doing just now and act on it.
The method is called echomagnet.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by R. on September 16, 2003 at 00:52:26:
Oh, ok, kindof like reverse psychology. My brain likes that.
Does it work on you?
Where did you get your source of info from?
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 16, 2003 at 02:01:19:
I read about it a long time in a book called The Art of Being Yourself by a Russian psychotherapist Levin. I didn't use the method then. But I happened to read about it again a couple of days ago and realized that that I automatically use it sometimes with success. For example, when I can't get up in the morning. I try and try but don't want to, so I say to myself something like "Oh, crap, screw this! I am gonna stay in bed" and relax. And in a few seconds I feel enough power and desire to get up. It feels like when you make a swing go farther and farther -- you try to make it move forward and then you relax and so on. Try it! It's very easy and fast. You will know right away if it works for you in a situation you choose.
I have to say that results haven't been as fast when trying to remember something. It's a known technique -- to let your subconscious bring forward what you want. But you have to make an effort first and then relax. It's just making yourself do what you don't want to is another application of the same principle.
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by R. on September 16, 2003 at 03:57:03:
By George!,I think you've got it, R~! I think this may actually work for me.
Ijust imagined the technique in my mind, and how it would feel and it felt very right for me.
Sometimes our mind is like a child, when we dont want to do something that we SHOULD do, and it doesnt seem like fun, whatever the task at hand is.
Us wanting to have some control back over the situation and do it OUR way, instead of the way it should be. this way we giving our feelings permission to just be. By accepting our feelings, instead of trying to change them, just letting them be, allows them to pass quicker.
Btw, I am not sure I understand how the technique you described works for memory. Ok, you relax, and then what? Tell yourself its ok to not remember?
"It's just making yourself do what you don't want to is another application of the same principle."
that only works temporarily for me.
But, there was a habit I was trying to break and apparently it takes 30days to break a habit, or was it 30 days to instill a new habit. This is a lifelong habit I have.
My boss actually told me this about how long it takes to instill a new habit. So I tried it out for 30 days straight, and lo and behold, I no longer have that particular bad habit. I'm so impressed with myself~! :)
*~ BLISS ~*
In Reply to: Re: Kundalini posted by Miss Bliss on September 16, 2003 at 04:20:21:
Btw, I am not sure I understand how the technique you described works for memory. Ok, you relax, and then what? Tell yourself its ok to not remember?
Yes, exactly. The instruction says specifically that you should say something like "Oh, well, I don't need to remember it. Who cares!...". Use your own words, but the meaning is what you said. And you need to really feel that you don't need "it" and relax.
that only works temporarily for me.
But if you do it like you said, for 30 days, or 21 times (as I've heard it), then you develop a new, beneficial habit.
What was the bad habit that you got rid of?
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