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AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Dr Stoll and others, please help me, I have suffered from social anxiety for years now, along with this, I have had problems with OOS/RSI, Irritable Bowel, and lately chronic TMJ, I am a dedicated to meditation, but have these horrific spasms in my face from the TMJ, and now my meditations have turned into a battlezone with the spasms, I also do yoga, alexander technique, go to osteopaths, and see a counsellor, I feel like I am doing everything in my power to help and heal myself, but im losing the battle.
I have the SR book, i have done also progressive relaxation for a long time, i have had biofeedback done, which says i am relaxing, but it is like my nervous system, straight away, just goes straight back into a heightened state, no matter what i do, these muscular spasms are totally soul destroying.
PLEASE help me
thanks



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by S.H.A.P.E. [138.20] on December 03, 2003 at 07:26:12:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Go down the list of congested liver symptoms below. If you are experiencing over 15 of these symptoms, you have a congested liver problem! To reverse a congested liver, you must perform a Liver Flush. EFA (essential fatty acids) will help with your depression/anxiety disorder as will take a supplement called "VitaCel-8". To help reverse your TMJ/Stress problems you desperately need to start taking Liquid Magnesium - 3X a day with meals! You are extremely deficient in minerals so taking a liquid colloidal mineral supplement would also improve your health! * S.H.A.P.E. *

HEALTH QUESTIONNAIRE

SYMPTOMS CAUSED BY A CONGESTED & TOXIC LIVER

1. HAS YOUR GALLBLADDER BEEN SURGICALLY REMOVED Yes______ No ________

2. UPPER and/or LOWER BACK PAIN (especially after riding in a car or sitting for prolonged periods of time).

3. AN UNEXPLAINED HOT FEELING (night sweats - especially between 1:00 and 3:00 AM)

4. HIGH CHOLESTEROL (over 250)

5. CHRONIC FATIGUE

6. UNEXPLAINED STRESS (bracing/tension)

7. TMJ

8. A BLOATED FEELING

9. HEARTBURN

10. ACID REFLUX

11. BELCHING

12. DROWSINESS AFTER EATING

13. INTOLERANCE TO FATTY FOODS (they cause heartburn)

14. SLEEP DISORDERS

15. EARLY SIGNS OF DIABETES (hypoglycemia)

16. MUSCLE ACHES

17. MORNING STIFFNESS

18. DEGENERATIVE DISEASES (Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, MS. Etc.)

19. MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) allergic reactions to odors like perfume, smoke and household cleansers, etc.

20. COATED TONGUE (white or yellowish looking)

21. FEVER BLISTERS and/or COLD SORES

22. BLURRED VISION

23. BRIGHT SUNLIGHT HURTS YOUR EYES

24. POOR MEMORY

25. TROUBLES CONCENTRATING

26. SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION (lack of desire or extremely fatigued afterwards)

27. HORMONEAL INBALANCE

28. UNEXPLAINED WEIGHT GAIN

29. POTUBERANT ABDOMEN (pot belly)

30. FATTY LUMPS and/or TUMOURS UNDER YOUR SKIN

31. THYROID PROBLEMS

32. FREQUENT INFECTIONS

33. FREQUENT BLADDER INFECTIONS

34. FAINTING

35. DIZZINESS

36. DARK URINE

37. PALE (WHITE) STOOL

38. EDEMA (swelling of the hands, legs, feet and/or back)

39. ASCITES (a buildup of fluid in your abdomen)

40. YOU BRUISE EASILY

41. YOU BLEED EASILY

42. EMACIATED APPEARANCE (unusually thin, regardless of how much you eat)

43. BROWNISH SPOTS and/or BLEMISHES ON SKIN (Liver Spots)

44. RED LOOKING COLOR TO HANDS AND/OR FEET

45. RED PIN-SIZE DOTS ON YOUR STOMACH AREA

46. HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE

47. WHITES OF EYES ARE YELLOW LOOKING

48. GREEN, YELLOW OR ORANGE TINT TO YOUR SKIN

49. IS YOUR SKIN COLOR DARKER ON YOUR ARMS AND LEGS, THAN IT IS ON THE REST OF YOUR BODY (I’m not talking about a sun tan)

50. HYPERSENSITIVE TO NOISE

51. GALLSTONES

52. NAUSEA and/or VOMITING ATTACKS

53. COLD EXTREMITIES (hands and feet)

54. UNEXPLAINED COLD CHILLS (that causes your whole body to shake)

55. NUMBNESS OR TINLING OF THE EXTREMITIES (hands and feet)

56. ARM and/or CHEST PAIN THAT RESEMBLES A HEART ATTACK

57. HEART PALPITATIONS

58. WEAK TENDONS, LIGAMENTS & MUSCLES

59. MUSCLE SPASMS OR CRAMPS

60. OVERBURDENED IMMUNE SYSTEM

61. SORE, PAINFUL OR TICKLISH (toxic) LYMPH’s (Push hard under your arms and under your collarbone area to check for Toxic Lymph problems).

62. HEADACHES AND/OR MIGRAINES

63. CYSTS IN VARIOUS AREAS OF YOUR BODY

64. A CRUSTY BUILD-UP IN THE CORNER OF YOUR EYES FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.

65. CLENCHING AND GRINDING YOUR TEETH.

WOMEN ONLY

66. UTERINE FIBROIDS

67. OVARIAN CYSTS

68. ENDOMETRIOSIS

69. PAINFUL MENSTUATION

MEN ONLY

70. PROSTATE PROBLEMS

EMOTIONAL SYMPTOMS

71. DEPRESSION
72. UNPREDICTABLE FEELINGS OF RAGE, ANGAR & FRUSTRATED
73. YOU HAVE A DEFENSIVE ATTITUDE

74. HAPPY PEOPLE IRRITATE YOU

75. YOU’RE CONSTANTLY PLANNING

76. YOUR MOODS ARE CONSTENTLY CHANGING

77. YOU SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE YELLING OR SCREAMING

78. YOU’RE NEVER HAPPY OR SATIFIED

79. YOU’RE NEVER IN THE PRESENT MOMENT (a distant feeling)

80. YOU EXHIBIT THE PERSONALITY OF A PERFECTIONIST

81. YOU FEEL UNCOMFOTABLE IN THE PRESENCES OF STRANGERS

82. NEGLECT OF APPEARANCE

ADVANCED SYMPTOMS

83. ASTHMA

84. KIDNEY & BLADDER PROBLEMS

85. DIABETES TYPE-2

86. HEART DISEASE

87. ALZHEIMER’S

88. PARKINSON’S

89. CANCER
90. AIDS

91. PREMATURE AGING

The most accurate test for detecting a diseased (not congested) Gallbladder is a “Hide-A Scan”. Gallstones will not be detected on an x-ray or ultra-sound scan, until they are the size of a golf ball.

Old Sage doctors believed that when a patient was seriously sick, regardless if they were experiencing signs of cancer, heart disease, an autoimmune disease, etc., that the “Root Cause” was a congested or blocked Liver and Gallbladder, which occurred three to five years before the onset of their illness. By performing a simple Liver/Gallbladder flush, until all the stones are eliminated, this health problem can be reversed! * S.H.A.P.E. *

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by S.H.A.P.E. [138.20] on December 03, 2003 at 07:30:41:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Go down the list of congested liver symptoms below. If you are exper

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by Vince F [51.37] on December 03, 2003 at 08:10:44:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Does the TMJ happen when you sleep and hard to stop ?
I used to get bizzare dreams when sleeping because of an
injury that caused some brain damage and the only way my
sleep was peaceful was with the TV on which probably
distracted my mind so it didn't go where it wanted to or
couldn't stop itself.

I used to get anxiet attacks after another injury and I
found that taking salt calmed me down. I had to take it
just to function in the heat so my system must have been
out of wack and dumping all in my system. I have found
simple cures for a lot of things and had to since Dr's
didn't have answers. I got lucky in finding what I did and
by accident and just trying things. I always used a lot of
salt so I just tried it to see what it would do. You have
to be your own detective.

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by peterb [17.14] on December 03, 2003 at 08:23:41:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

I believe from reading your post that your best bet would be to contact Dr. Stoll for his health coaching services. It's impossible for anyone, including him, to provide much help in an open forum without the specifics of a person's medical history. Or find a naturopath near you.

What's your understanding of wellness? What's your nutrient status? Stress level? Magnesium? You need a professional to guide you!

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 03, 2003 at 08:51:16:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Hi, Minnie.

How long have you consistantly done the SR certified by biofeedback?

Walt

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by JD [300.14] on December 03, 2003 at 11:03:20:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Since you said you do SR, and your nervous system seems to immediately go back into the heightened state, perhaps you should look into Openfocus, one of the SR methods mentioned by Dr Stoll.

I've done a ton of research about it, and am going to look into starting it.....the benefit of the Openfocus method is it teaches you to incorporate alpha brainwaves into your *daily life*, not only just when you're doing SR

its www.openfocus.com

definitely take a look at the site and read about it in detail



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 19:28:01:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Thanks for your replies,
I have a biofeedback done at a pain clinic where i live, sometimes i meditate for hours, and then as soon as i get up to standing and moving about again, it feels like nothing has changed, i seem to snap straight back into this sense of anxiety,
I have looked up info about centrepointe and the openfocus, thanks for the links, its just that, the kiwi dollar doesnt match up to the US, AND pound, and we end up paying over double, for any international products,



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by June.one [1261.14] on December 03, 2003 at 20:14:03:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Have you used deep tissue massage or ever looked into Rolfing to help the TMJ? I had the series done when I suffered from several chronic miseries and it was very good. I noticed this approach is mentioned in Dr. Stoll's vast TMJ archives. A Rolfing link down under...



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by Alexandria Dumas [568.676] on December 03, 2003 at 20:18:32:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 19:28:01:

Here's a link to an auction at Ebay for the Centerpointe, starting bid 9.95
US and there are no bids.

Hope you're feeling better soon.



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 20:59:11:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by June.one [1261.14] on December 03, 2003 at 20:14:03:

thanks i will look into this, i know of somebody here who does that.
again thanks

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 20:59:46:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by Alexandria Dumas [568.676] on December 03, 2003 at 20:18:32:

thanks xxxx



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by Alexandria Dumas [568.676] on December 03, 2003 at 21:50:42:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 20:59:46:

You are very welcome. Don't pay too much, I think he has more. I just
bought the exact item from him (haven't received it yet) and bid for
several days until I actually "won" it at $30. If you don't get it, sign up to
have ebay notify you for any entries under the name "Centerpointe."
That's how I was notified about this one and the one I bought. It's the
first thing I've ever bought on ebay. I can see how it can get addicting.


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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by Happygal [11.8] on December 03, 2003 at 23:03:15:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Hi Minnie,

I had a similar situation to yours. Keep doing SR! It was and still is a big help to me.

The other thing that helped stop the muscle spasms and constant muscular tension for me was (and still is) stretching. I had to stop doing all exercise because it made my NS worse, and instead I focused totally on stretching all the muscles in my body to help relax the NS. It worked. I did 30 minutes of stretching a day, beginning with the places that hurt the worst. It was not long until those muscles started easing up, and took less time to stretch, and then I started stretching new muscles until I was doing full-body stretching.

It took about 1-1/2 years until my whole body got pretty loose from doing the stretching, and the SR really enhanced the relaxation of my body. I no longer have a tight body, and now I only have to stretch every other day. I still do SR every day.

Since it worked so well for me, my recommendation for you is to go get a book or two about stretching and just start stretching. Do a little each day. Take it slow. Stretching should never hurt so be easy with it. If you do it consistently (surely twice a day would be all right, but at least once a day), you will start to ease the burden on your nervous system. Each part of the NS affects the whole NS, and as some parts start to get quite relaxed, your whole body will relax.

You can get a good book about stretching from www.stretchingusa.com. "Specific Stretching for Everybody" is good, the book "Active Isolated Stretching" gives more detail.

Yoga doesn't hit all the muscles. I found Yoga was too limiting. You need to start learning to listen to your body -- it will tell you where to stretch next if you pay attention to it. You may need to consult professionals for ideas about how to stretch certain areas.

Also I have not heard you talk about diet. If you have hypersensitivities to certain foods, they can keep your NS aroused. Try working with diet if you haven't done so already.

Also read the book, "The Highly Sensitive Person" by Elaine Aron. In it she talks about ways to keep one's stimulation down to help the NS stay calm.

Best wishes,
Happygal (Certified Massage Therapist/Holistic Practitioner)



Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by another nameless number [1077.516] on December 04, 2003 at 07:58:21:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

looksd like you have a lot of good advice for the spasms and such.
Social anxiety is often the result of indiagnosed learning disabilities-we don't all process information the same, and we become anxious from repeated feedback that we are missing something. Coping strategies can be taught by people who diagnos learning disabilities.

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore (Open Focus.) Archive in SR.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on December 04, 2003 at 08:39:44:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by JD [300.14] on December 03, 2003 at 11:03:20:

Thanks, JD.

Walt

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 11, 2003 at 15:22:01:

In Reply to: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 03, 2003 at 07:03:13:

Hi everyone,just want to say thanks for all your advice
its muchly appreciated
Thanks Kindly,
Im currently trying to bid it out on ebay for centerpointe items lol
Again thanks kindly

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Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore

Posted by minnie [1126.4] on December 11, 2003 at 15:23:51:

In Reply to: Re: AT THE END OF THE LINE, cant cope anymore posted by Happygal [11.8] on December 03, 2003 at 23:03:15:

THANKS HAPPY,
I totally agree, just have to keep at it,
thanks for your help

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