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Hi,I am really hoping u can help me. I have very severe gas and burping problem. This problem has been around for the last 6 years since I was 20. I have gone for a gastroscopy and colonscopy as well as liver scan when I sought a specialist's help when I was 22. Also, a test to detect to detect bacteria and a barium test were done (where they put extra air into you). My findings were all normal. If the condition was not such a problem,I would not have persisted to find out how I can help myself further. It affects my life tremendously. I have not since taken a meal quite normally. I have found that its not really dicatated by the foods I eat. Please help. I have tried many ways, including peppermint pills and Traditional Chinese medicine. Should I go back to the specialist again? I am seriously depressed about this and do not know how to go about helping myself further. Work and life is badly affected, in the sense that the gas pains prevents me from moving stuff, doing checks by flipping heavy files fast etc and after a meal, I have to sit for a long while (no physical movement at all) so that I do not induce pains that will bring on vomitting or diahorrea. Even then, I can't relax after a meal because I can feel and see the gas moving around the abdomen. It used to be chronic bloating in the 1st 2-3 years then now, its surrounding the abdomen. The gas is around my tummy, below the breast area 24/7. You can imagine how this will actually press on the tummy after a proper meal. My toilet habits are normal. Please help.
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Hi Ericia - Your symptoms are those of a Congested/Toxic Liver and Gallbladder so I'd suggest that you go to the archives and learn how to perform a Liver Flush. You should also be able to find a list of congested liver symptoms, that I've put on the BB and you can count how many of them you are experiencing and if it's over 10-symptoms, then you definately need to start performing the Liver Flush. * S.H.A.P.E. *
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Another possibility, since it is presents in the upper GI tract, could be a deficiency of HydroChloric Acid production.
The best way to determine this is through a "Heidleberg Gastric Analysis" which measures your resting and digestive PH in a doctor's office.
There is also an easy home test which you could do first (from: http://www.drdebe.com/maldiges.htm):
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Stomach acid adequacy can be measured with invasive tests. A simple, non-invasive way to gauge stomach acid sufficiency is to challenge it with a base-sodium bicarbonate or baking soda. What you do is, first thing in the morning, before eating, mix 1/4 teaspoon of fresh baking soda into eight ounces of water and drink it. Time how long it takes you to belch. As the baking soda reacts with the stomach acid, carbon dioxide gas is formed and belched. It is normal to belch within two to three minutes. Not belching within five minutes is a crude indication of hypochlorhydria - insufficient stomach acid. This condition necessitates hydrochloric acid supplementation.
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Whether a Liver or HCL problem or something else, you need to start practicing wellness and this site is a great place to start. The usual good advice is to read the home page articles and archives, then post with any more questions.
Lastly, I would seek out a holistic/integrative/complimentary physician to work with since you probably have several things going on at once and regular docs won't pick it up. To find one, try:
http://www.acam.org/
Good luck and welcome to the board.
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Hi pple,
Are u guys doctors? Sorry if I have offended ur professionalism but I need to assure myself where these sources of info is coiming from. Also, I do not understand how both the GP and specialist could miss out the diagnosies u have given? and lastly, they sound serious!I am quite stunned and worried if performing the tests u have recommended will actually have any other repercussions like eg, thinning of the stoamch wall.
Thanks a bunch.
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
I believe I have gone for tests to detect for gallstones before when I was 22 and findings were normal as well.
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Hi, Ericia.
You have too much faith in the allopathic monopoly. There are other ways to think! You have had the best they can offer and still here you are.
If SHAPE's remedy does not resolve this (I do not think it will but it is safe and cheap and would produce results quickly if I am wrong.), I would suggest that this is a classic case of stress induced "air swallowing". The technical name is aerophagia. Look it up. The next most likely cause, that all your allopathic tests would have totaly missed, is LGS (leaky gut syndrome). See the home page glossary and archives till you understand it.
Let us know what you learn and we can lead you through resolving this. The ony pay I ask is that you share your experiences, while you are getting well, with the bulletin board participants to try to help others.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tightening (Archive in stress.) posted by Walt Stoll on April 19, 2003 at 05:37:24:
Hi, kindly enlighten me as to what is allopathic monopoly?
I realize that th questions come in fast and furious...I am hoping that you will actually come back and check the earlier questions like mine so that they are not forgotten.
Will proceed to come back with questions while reading thru the archival materials.
Thks a lot.
In Reply to: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 18, 2003 at 06:58:10:
Hi Erica,
I have recently started to have a similar problem, and I am still trying to figure out what causes it. I have a hunch that the cause lies in something I ingest, food or water.
I am 40 and have had this problem since I came back home from Australia. The favourite answer here on the BB is liver congestion or stress, but somehow I don't buy it this time. Last two weeks I spent on a stressful trip home taking care of my elderly mother, but I had NO bloating. I did not experience this in Australia either. I will therefore try an elimination diet to determine what it is.
I think you should - if you can - to approach food issue very systematically. It could be carbohydrates. Or a food allergy. If you already haven't done it, you should educate yourself on foods. You don't mention if you eat only whole foods? This does make a difference! If you eat processed foods, but have sensitive tummy, you're calling for trouble. Pesticides on some vegetables or fruits can cause bloating. Organic foods are preferable. If you drink coffee, you should stop it completely, since it often causes bloating, especially when taken with processed foods. I find that I can only drink coffee before a meal, not after a meal. Actually, I do best without it.
Also, is it your stomach or the small intestines? In the first case, lack of hydrochloric acid is a fair possibility. This lack of stomach acid is a recurrent problem with me, and up until now I have not figured out what causes it, but I don't think there is a simple answer. The cause could be genetic. There is a history of digestive problems in my family.
If bloating is in the small intestines as well, there could be a possibility of parasite infection. I get some relief from black walnut capsules (can be bought at health food store).
Hm, I just rambled on, hope you get something out of it...
Sonja
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tightening (Archive in stress.) posted by Ericia on April 19, 2003 at 21:05:16:
Hi, Ericia.
There used to be an archive about that very subject.
Current conventional medicine, as it is practiced in this country, was given a monopoly over all medical thinking and care by congress in 1911 following the Flexner Report. This has resulted in the AMA "Trying to force the health-care camel through the eye of the allopathic needle." This is the basis for the present health care crisis in this country.
Read Dr Grossinger's classic "Planet Medicine". Your library can find you a copy.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by Sonja on April 20, 2003 at 00:34:56:
Hi Sonja,
I do not think its a food problem. There was once when I was on a strict diet that eliminates foods that cause wind including bread and cold stuff but not much improvement to the situation. When I went thru the archives, there was a lady who mentioned that she had excessive burping too and they sound thunderous and its something else not suggested by anyone yet as a possibility of what i could have...can't recalll at this point what it is....starts with H? and she said she burps the moment she wakes up till the time she goes to bed. I burp thunderously too...in fact, every slight movement I do. I burp loudly and deeply...and I do not suffer from bloating but its severe tightening....so it should not be a deficiency of hydrochloric acid production. Similar to the lady, she and I both burp even more after food or drink. I have exaclty the same symptoms except she did not said that it affects her life as much as in she does not feel like throwwing up or have gas pains that will will offset diahorrea. What's drivimg me mad is that I do not get a break from the gas cause its like stuck bet the tummy and breast so, even when I sit still, i can't concentrate and feel very fustrated cause its weighing my front,pressing against the abdomen and moving (the air) forward, backward repeatedly. Its like ever turn and movement I do pulls the gas. For example, when I need to check files and flip them, each flip cause pain...I can feel its because the gas is being pulled.
Other than having this perculiar distressing gas plb, I do not think I have any major health problem. I eat normal and do not drink or smoke.
i also do not believe that stress is the main problem. but do you think it could seriously be a congested liver problem. What I really want to avoid is to subject myself to more unnecessary pain.
I do not understand how it can be a food problem. i was perfectly fine before 20.
I hope I am not making you confused...am trying my best to describe what I have.
Its kind of you to share ur thoughts with me.
As I explore the website, I am becoming overwhelmed by the information and getting very lost.
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 20, 2003 at 06:48:33:
Dr Stoll,
I come from a developed Asian nation and am thinking of going back to the specialist again...but with the sars outbreak, going to hosptials might be difficult for the moment. I have gone thru the archives and it seems that ur inclination is that conventional specialists might not have heard of LGS etc...u mentioned going to chirpractor etc...The problem is going to a specialist would be a natural step to take for anyone who needs medical advice so does it mean this action would not be the right thing to do and be helpful for me (etc will they be able to test me for LGS)? If not, how do I search for the relevant pple to turn to?
I started seeing another Chinese physician about 8 mths back and will continue to see him. After taking for some time, the medicine provided some relief but there is no predictable success. There has since been no substantial improvement. I am unable to control the condition...like no specific foods makes it better or worse..What would you recommend I can do for myself for immediate relief?
Its a struggle everyday.
Gratefully yours
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 20, 2003 at 09:07:46:
Thanks, Ericia.
Your most likely cause is aerophagia which is a habit related to stored stress-effect. Without addressing that I do not think any approach will work. GSDL has a comprehensive stool analysis that diagnoses LGS. Any alternative health practioner: Chiro, Naturopath, etc., can order that for you and help you interpret it.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by Walt Stoll on April 21, 2003 at 05:46:14:
Dr Stoll,
If the likely cause is indeed air swallowing? Where/WHo do I go to to seek professional help to learn to swallow air the right way? and I am also interested in getting that x-ray which proves that one is swallowing air? I have been living with this problem for a very long time now and I am desparate/eager to resolve it as soon as i can. Its affecting my concentration at work and I do not get a break from the feeling of having trapped gas..its been hell and that is not a understatement. Pl pardon the language.
Thanks so much for your advice. If I could solve my problem, I will be most thankful to you.
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by Ericia on April 23, 2003 at 00:27:23:
Hi, Ericia.
Broach the subject with your doc. In my opinion, he KNOWS that this is what you have but has just not mentioned it to you because of the universal resistance we all would have to this suggestion. Explanations take time and time is money.
There are xray procedures to prove this but normally it is a diagnosis of exclusion: "We have ruled everything else out and so this is the most likely explanation." There is no correct way to swallow air. Some, inevitably, is swallowed along with everything we swallow.
This is a difficult thing to change but, since you are the only one who can, the first thing is for you to know what is going on.
Have you yet read up on it in the library?
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Severe Gas tighening posted by HCL on April 18, 2003 at 08:28:39:
I have a big problem. I have gas constantly. When I listen to my stomach, it sounds like a tumultuous ocean. And when I pass gas it smells so bad you would think I have a dead animal inside of my stomach. I am scared to go to the doctor because someone told me when you have a lot of gas you have colon cancer. I have to say that yesterday, it was so bad I put a little bit of baking soda in water and drank it. The smelly part subsided. Can you help? Thanks a million.
In Reply to: gas posted by louisec on May 18, 2003 at 07:36:12:
Hi, Louisec.
Typical LGS. If you have not had a GI workup (depending on your age) for 10 years you should do that.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
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