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Dear Dr. Stoll:
In your article "Modern Medical Interpretation of Stress", you write "there are too many things causing a 'Fight or Flight' stress response for us to discharge that much "Readiness" in the usual 8 hours sleep."
I find this statement suggestive, but, as a scientist, I also find it very confusing. What do you mean, in concrete physiological/mechanistic terms, by "discharge ... 'Readiness'"? Do you mean that some chemicals (e.g. neurotransmitters, metabolites, etc.) accumulate due to stress and need to be eliminated before one feels well again?
You describe this as the "modern medical interpretation of stress". Can you point me to any references in the medical literature that elaborates on these ideas from a physiological/mechanistic viewpoint?
Many thanks,
Kynn Jones
In Reply to: Discharging "readiness"? posted by Kynn Jones on September 12, 2003 at 14:31:27:
Hi,Kynn.
I thought I had already posted at least several references: Start with Hans Selye, MD who is still considered the world's expert in this area. Then go to Ken Pelletier, PhD. Within the past month both Newsweek and Time have had cover articles about this very thing but what they reported is still 20 years behind the times.
Let us know what you learn.
Brain hormones are but a tiny bit of this readiness, bracing is perhaps even more significant as a storage place for this readiness. Talk to any Certified Massage Therapist.
I guess the sad thing is that, as a scientist, this is still a mystery to you. I would appreciate your sharing what you learn as watching the opening of any individual is very gratifying to me.
Walt
In Reply to: Discharging "readiness"? posted by Kynn Jones on September 12, 2003 at 14:31:27:
I think that development of insensitivity of hypothalamus to stress hormones (similarly to insulin resistance) is a large part of this, if not the essence. Read about Neuroendocrine Theory of Aging at VRP's library. Please share with us what you learn
In Reply to: Re: Discharging "readiness"? (Archive in stress.) posted by Walt Stoll on September 13, 2003 at 07:24:08:
>Start with Hans Selye, MD who is still considered the world's
>expert in this area. Then go to Ken Pelletier, PhD. Within
>the past month both Newsweek and Time have had cover
>articles about this very thing but what they reported is
>still 20 years behind the times.
Well, the books by Selye and Pelletier are arguably 20 years behind the times as well (they were published in the 70s). I'm sure they are very worth reading, but I was looking for something not only more current, but more importantly, something (e.g. a review article) from the scientific literature (as opposed to the popular press). Can you give me any pointers in this direction?
Let me note that at the moment I just want to pin down this notion of "discharging readiness". It sounds to me, at best, like a pre-scientific intuition (reminiscent of Freud's, in fact), not a scientifically worked-out concept.
Thanks,
Kynn
In Reply to: Re: Discharging "readiness"? (Archive in stress.) posted by Walt Stoll on September 13, 2003 at 07:24:08:
>Start with Hans Selye, MD who is still considered the world's
>expert in this area. Then go to Ken Pelletier, PhD. Within
>the past month both Newsweek and Time have had cover
>articles about this very thing but what they reported is
>still 20 years behind the times.
Well, the books by Selye and Pelletier are arguably 20 years behind the times as well (they were published in the 70s). I'm sure they are very worth reading, but I was looking for something not only more current, but more importantly, something (e.g. a review article) from the scientific literature (as opposed to the popular press). Can you give me any pointers in this direction?
Let me note that at the moment I just want to pin down this notion of "discharging readiness". It sounds to me, at best, like a pre-scientific intuition (reminiscent of Freud's, in fact), not a scientifically worked-out concept.
Thanks,
Kynn
In Reply to: Re: Discharging "readiness"? (Archive in stress.) posted by Kynn on September 15, 2003 at 13:53:10:
Actually, Kynn.
They were at least 50 years ahead of their time. Only now are the allopaths beginning to pay attention. So they are still at least 20 years ahead of where the majority of lay and professional people are right now.
The standard litany of the profession is that any really advanced concept takes at least a generation to begin to be understood and applied. The more advanced the concept, from the acccepted paradigm, the longer it takes. So, I guess this information is right on.
Hope this helps.
Walt
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