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MY MOM JUST RECENTLY TOLD ME IN CONFIDENCE THAT HER FACE AS BEEN NUMB FOR OHH ABOUT 5 YEARS, HER LEFT AND RIGHT CHEEK AND HER CHIN. I WAS FLIPPED OUT BY THIS, SHE HAS NOT TOLD ANYONE, NOT EVEN MY SISTERS JUST ME AND PROMISED ME NOT TO SAY ANYTHING. I WANT TO TELL MY SISTERS ANYWAY CAUSE IM NOT GOING TO SIT BACK AND GOD-FOR-BID IF THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM,JUST LET IT GO.
SHE ALSO HAS BEEN UNDER ALOT OF STRESSED, THEIR HAS BEEN 3 DEATHS IN MY FAMILY IN THE PAST YEAR.
SHE CONSENTLY WORRIES, HAS VERY LITTLE SOCIAL LIFE, SHE JUST SITS AND WATCHES T.V. ALL DAY LONG. I KNOW SHE MUST BE FEELING SOME KIND OF DEPRESSION IN HER LIFE. I EVEN OFFERED TO HAVE HER GO TALK TO SOMEONE, I EVEN OFFERED TO PAY TO FOR A REGULAR MEDICAL DOCTOR SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER FACE. SHE REFUSES. MY MOM IS A TOUGH WOMAN,
I KNOW HER, SHE WILL NOT GO TO THE DOCTOR. SHE'LL FIGHT WITH YOU AND FIGHT YOU. PLEASE IT'S RIDICULOUS. I KNOW SHE TOLD ME SHE ALSO IS AFRAID OF WHAT SHE MIGHT HEAR. SHE FACE LOOKS NORMAL TO ME.
SHE IS STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. WORRIES ALL THE TIME !
ALWAYS WORRYING ABOUT MONEY. COULD THIS BE PYSCOLOGICAL ??
AS WELL ?
MY MOM ISNT BIG ON DOCTOR'S AND I COULDNT TELL YOU WHEN THE LAST TIME SHE HAS HAD A CHECK UP. SHE IS 56 YEARS OLD AND I JUST LOST MY DAD. I ONLY HAVE ONE PARENT LEFT AND I REFUSE TO JUST SIT BACK. I AM LOOKING FOR INFORMATION OR SOME TYPE OF GUIDANCE WHY SHE CANT FEEL HER FACE, ALL I CAME UP WITH IS TMJ AND OR BELL'S PALSY? IS THIS CORRECT ? OR CAN THESE BE POSSIBLE MINI STROKES SHES HAVING.
PLEASE HELP !!!!! PLEASE !!!!!
THANK YOU DOCTOR. YOUR SOONEST REPLY WOULD BE APPRECIATED
ROBIN M.
In Reply to: RE: TMJ OR BELL'S PALSY posted by ROBIN on March 02, 2002 at 21:25:24:
but how are you going to get your mom to the doctor?
In Reply to: RE: TMJ OR BELL'S PALSY posted by ROBIN on March 02, 2002 at 21:25:24:
She may have untreated NICO.
Surgical view of 2 NICO lesions in left posterior mandible.
Does this look normal to anyone? This 44 year old lady had left lower jaw pain for a couple of years, after the last two molars were treated with large fillings, then root canals, and then removed. She also had a slow drainage into her mouth which produced a sore throat. During her surgery, when I removed the dead bone in this area, she surprisingly said: "My calf pain is gone! My leg feels normal." Among her many symptoms, one was left leg and calf pain.
Imagine, a lesion in a jaw bone causing pain in a leg. These bony lesions can and do cause remote and systemic pains.
Unfortunately, this lady saw at least 7 doctors (a dentist, 2 oral surgeons, a periodontist, an endondontist, 2 ENT physicians, and a family physician) and all could find nothing and even suggested she consult a psychologist!
Recommended Treatment of Cavitational Lesions of the Jaws
The only treatment available at this time to removed cavitational lesions is surgical removal. Some have attempted to inject homeopathic remedies into these areas of dead bone, but unfortunately, there's no blood circulation within cavitational lesions, so any medications, drugs, or remedies can't get into and permeate these lesions, let alone allow toxins and metabolic products to be removed. Homeopathic remedies certainly have their place in NICO treatment, especially in healing after surgical removal of the lesions themselves.
The surgery basically consists of making an incision, exposing the bony defects, and scraping them clean (termed debridement) to remove all unhealthy bone and other pathological problems like abscesses and cysts. It's not sufficient to simply punch a hole in the bone and rinse the area out, like some doctors recommend. In fact, treating these expanding bony lesions in such a conservative fashion often makes the lesion and subsequent pain much worse.
After removing the dead bone and other pathological products, the goal in healing is bone regeneration. But first, if possible, we remove all predisposing and risk factors.
The term NICO -- Neuralgia Inducing Cavitational Osteonecrosis-- has been used when pains such as severe facial pain, neuralgia, headache, or phantom tooth pain accompany NICO lesions. Although bone cavitations are fairly common, only a small percentage (we think) suffer with pain. However, even those who have cavitational lesions with no apparent pain complaints may very well suffer from unknown systemic problems. Researchers early in the 20th century and now recently have been concerned with systemic diseases caused by a primary problem (a focus of infection). The focal theory of infection fell out of favor with medical and dental doctors after the advent of antibiotics, but may researchers today believe that in spite of antibiotics, the focal theory of infection is alive and well. Ask and veterinarian doctor, and he or she will immediately agree that the focal theory of infection is a great concern of theirs.
In other words, many researchers today believe that NICO lesions are the focus of various infections which may spread throughout the body. In the last year or so, some of the most surprising medical news has been the discovery that bacteria from the mouth appear to be very influential in causing various heart problems. Could NICO lesions be associated?
Occurence of NICO Lesions
With the use of an experimental device (the CAVITAT), cavitational lesions of various sizes have been discovered in 94% of wisdom tooth sites! Worse yet, the Cavitat found cavitations under 100% of teeth treated with root canal therapy in both males and females of various ages from several geographic areas of the United States. Do root canals also cause NICO lesions?
Initiating, Predisposing, and Risk Factors for NICO
There are many initiating, predisposing, and risk factors associated with cavitational lesions.
In Reply to: RE: TMJ OR BELL'S PALSY posted by ROBIN on March 02, 2002 at 21:25:24:
Hi, Robin.
My first question is: "Why has she told YOU? MY suggestion is that this is her way of saving face and asking for help at the same time.
My first observation is that this pattern has no physiological or anatomical cause. This has to be stress!
The technical name for it is "Hysterical Conversion Reaction". The symbolic unconscious mechanism could be something she cannot "face".
Successful self-hypnosis might be the quickest way to get rid of the symptom but would do nothing about why this symptom is preferable to feeling the actual stress and so would likely be harmful in the long run. I would let her keep it.
Your mother would have less stress if she knew that this was stress but any conventional doc would want to put her on tranquilizers and see a psychiatrist--which would likely cause more harm than good. She likely has been smart to insist on not seeing a "doc".
Hope this helps.
Walt
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