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Walt - please help!

Posted by vickir on July 30, 2001 at 16:42:07:

Namaste, Walt

My father, age 86, was sent by his primary care physician for an MRI and a carotid Doppler ultrasound a little over 10 days ago after my father reported the following to him:

He woke up some time after midnight with the scalp on one side of his head itching, stinging, feeling as if bugs were crawling on it. He had no pain, except for something like pain behind his eyeballs, as if they were about to pop out of his head (pressure?). When he got up the next morning, he was unable to walk straight, could only stagger, as if his brain wasn't communicating with his feet, and he couldn't control his movements. He was not dizzy, had no vertigo (he has Meniere's so he knows very well what dizziness and vertigo are like). It was two weeks before he was able to walk reasonably well again and still doesn't feel totally in control. He has been on ProCardia for hypertension for several years.

His doctor may have suspected he'd had a TIA (although he didn't tell my dad that) because he had him start taking an aspirin every day.

Last week, he went to his doctor's office and obtained copies of the test reports. Here's what they say:

MRI: There are scattered areas of abnormal T1 and FLAIR signal throughout the deep white matter consistent with chronic small vessel ischemic changes. There is no evidence of acute infarction with diffusion weighted images. The ventricles are normal in size, shape and position for the patient's age. There is mild diffuse cerebral and cerebellar atrophy consistent with the patient's age. The vascular flow voids are unremarkable. No other findings.
IMPRESSION: Scattered small vessel ischemic changes in the deep white matter, no evidence of acute infarction, mild cerebral and cerebellar volume loss consistent with the patient's age.

Carotid Doppler Ultrasound: High resolution real-time imaging of the extracranial carotid artery systems with duplex imaging and color flow mapping shows only minimal atherosclerotic plaque formation along the posterolateral wall of each bifurcation. No evidence of appreciable stenosis. No evidence of ulceration, abnormal velocity or turbulence. Both internal and external carotid arteries are widely patent. The vertebral arteries are patent with antegrade flow. IMPRESSION: Normal real-time Doppler evaluation, duplex imaging and color flow mapping of the extracranial carotid artery systems and vertebral arteries. No evidence of significant disease.

To my dad's immense frustration, his doctor has not contacted him to discuss

the test results. Even if he does, the man rarely says more than two words to my dad, doesn't ask or answer questions. My dad wants to understand what happened to him and what the tests revealed so he can take any needed remedial or preventive steps. As best I can interpret the tests, he does not appear to have had a TIA, nor do they show anything that would explain his symptoms. I don't know what T1 or FLAIR signal means. I would be grateful for your opinion of what may have caused my dad's symptoms and explanation of the significance of the test findings.

Also, I would like to know whether you consider it appropriate for him to continue taking aspirin every day, and, if so, whether it would be all right for him to take ginkgo biloba supplements concurrently with the aspirin. It's my understanding that the two have similar effects in some respects. He would like to try ginkgo biloba to see if it will benefit his Meniere's Disease, but we're concerned about possibly getting a "double effect" from both ginkgo and aspirin.

We would GREATLY appreciate your advice. (Why can't more doctors be like you???)

Thank you so much,
Vicki R.

Namaste, Walt

My father, age 86, was sent by his primary care physician for an MRI and a carotid Doppler ultrasound a little

over 10 days ago after my father reported the following to him:

He woke up some time after midnight with the scalp on one side of his head itching, stinging, feeling as if bugs were crawling on it. He had no pain, except for something like pain behind his eyeballs, as if they were about to pop out of his head (pressure?). When he got up the next morning, he was unable to walk straight, could only stagger, as if his brain wasn't communicating with his feet, and he couldn't control his movements. He was not dizzy, had no vertigo (he has Meniere's so he knows very well what dizziness and vertigo are like). It was two weeks before he was able to walk reasonably well again and still doesn't feel totally in control. He has been on ProCardia for hypertension for several years.

His doctor may have suspected he'd had a TIA (although he didn't tell

my dad that) because he had him start taking an aspirin every day.

Last week, he went to his doctor's office and obtained copies of the test reports. Here's what they say:

MRI: There are scattered areas of abnormal T1 and FLAIR signal throughout the deep white matter consistent with chronic small vessel ischemic changes. There is no evidence of acute infarction with diffusion weighted images. The ventricles are normal in size, shape and position for the patient's age. There is mild diffuse cerebral and cerebellar atrophy consistent with the patient's age. The vascular flow voids are unremarkable. No other findings.
IMPRESSION: Scattered small vessel ischemic changes in the deep white matter, no evidence of acute infarction, mild cerebral and cerebellar volume loss consistent with the patient's age.

Carotid Doppler Ultrasound: High resolution real-time imaging of the extracranial carotid artery systems with duplex imaging and color flow mapping shows only minimal atherosclerotic plaque formation along the posterolateral wall of each bifurcation. No evidence of appreciable stenosis. No evidence of ulceration, abnormal velocity or turbulence. Both internal and external carotid arteries are widely patent. The vertebral arteries are patent with antegrade flow. IMPRESSION: Normal real-time Doppler evaluation, duplex imaging and color flow mapping of the extracranial carotid artery systems and vertebral arteries. No evidence of significant disease.

To my dad's immense frustration, his doctor has not contacted him to discuss

the test results. Even if he does, the man rarely says more than two

words to my dad, doesn't ask or answer questions. My dad wants to understand what happened to him and

what the tests revealed so he can take any needed remedial or preventive steps. As best I can interpret the tests, he does not appear to have had a TIA, nor do they show anything that would explain his symptoms. I don't know what T1 or FLAIR signal means. I would be grateful for your opinion of what may have caused my dad's symptoms and explanation of the significance of the test findings.

Also, I would like to know whether you consider it appropriate for him to continue taking aspirin every day, and, if so, whether it would be all right for him to take ginkgo biloba supplements concurrently with the aspirin. It's my understanding that the two have similar effects in some respects. He would like to try ginkgo biloba to see if it will benefit his Meniere's Disease, but we're concerned about possibly getting a "double effect" from both ginkgo and aspirin.

We would GREATLY appreciate your advice.

Namaste, Walt

My father, age 86, was sent by his primary care physician for an MRI and a carotid Doppler ultrasound a little

over 10 days ago after my father reported the following to him:

He woke up some time after midnight with the scalp on one side of his head itching, stinging, feeling as if bugs were crawling on it. He had no pain, except for something like pain behind his eyeballs, as if they were about to pop out of his head (pressure?). When he got up the next morning, he was unable to walk straight, could only stagger, as if his brain wasn't communicating with his feet, and he couldn't control his movements. He was not dizzy, had no vertigo (he has Meniere's so he knows very well what dizziness and vertigo are like). It was two weeks before he was able to walk reasonably well again and still doesn't feel totally in control. He has been on ProCardia for hypertension for several years.

His doctor may have suspected he'd had a TIA (although he didn't tell

my dad that) because he had him start taking an aspirin every day.

Last week, he went to his doctor's office and obtained copies of the test reports. Here's what they say:

MRI: There are scattered areas of abnormal T1 and FLAIR signal throughout the deep white matter consistent with chronic small vessel ischemic changes. There is no evidence of acute infarction with diffusion weighted images. The ventricles are normal in size, shape and position for the patient's age. There is mild diffuse cerebral and cerebellar atrophy consistent with the patient's age. The vascular flow voids are unremarkable. No other findings.
IMPRESSION: Scattered small vessel ischemic changes in the deep white matter, no evidence of acute infarction, mild cerebral and cerebellar volume loss consistent with the patient's age.

Carotid Doppler Ultrasound: High resolution real-time imaging of the extracranial carotid artery systems with duplex imaging and color flow mapping shows only minimal atherosclerotic plaque formation along the posterolateral wall of each bifurcation. No evidence of appreciable stenosis. No evidence of ulceration, abnormal velocity or turbulence. Both internal and external carotid arteries are widely patent. The vertebral arteries are patent with antegrade flow. IMPRESSION: Normal real-time Doppler evaluation, duplex imaging and color flow mapping of the extracranial carotid artery systems and vertebral arteries. No evidence of significant disease.

To my dad's immense frustration, his doctor has not contacted him to discuss

the test results. Even if he does, the man rarely says more than two

words to my dad, doesn't ask or answer questions. My dad wants to understand what happened to him and

what the tests revealed so he can take any needed remedial or preventive steps. As best I can interpret the tests, he does not appear to have had a TIA, nor do they show anything that would explain his symptoms. I don't know what T1 or FLAIR signal means. I would be grateful for your opinion of what may have caused my dad's symptoms and explanation of the significance of the test findings.

Also, I would like to know whether you consider it appropriate for him to continue taking aspirin every day, and, if so, whether it would be all right for him to take ginkgo biloba supplements concurrently with the aspirin. It's my understanding that the two have similar effects in some respects. He would like to try ginkgo biloba to see if it will benefit his Meniere's Disease, but we're concerned about possibly getting a "double effect" from both ginkgo and aspirin.

We would GREATLY appreciate your advice.




Re: helping you/consult

Posted by
Jackie on July 30, 2001 at 18:45:39:

In Reply to: Walt - please help! posted by vickir on July 30, 2001 at 16:42:07:

I don't know who this very wise person is named "helping you", but I am wondering if he/she does phone consultations..for a fee ofcourse..please email me if that is an option.

Jackie



Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 01, 2001 at 07:52:51:

In Reply to: Walt - please help! posted by vickir on July 30, 2001 at 16:42:07:

Hi, vickir.

Is his blood pressure controlled?

One aspirin, twice a week, is as effective as one a day and has a lot less long term side effects. If he wants to take one every day have it be a baby aspirin.

ANY "technician pretending to be a physician"--which is how I would classify his uncommunicative doc--deserves to be paid as a technician and not as a physician. The reason docs get paid so much is so they will take the time to explain--to the PATIENT'S satisfaction-- what is going on. This guy just takes his money and runs. That is the mark of someone who cares not a whit for the patient and is primarily interested in the money!

Physicians are CONSULTANTS to the patient--NOT Gods.

His symptoms are classical for a TIA and so are his MRI findings. See the archives about Transient Ischemic Attacks.

The ideal treatment for this (also as shown by his MRI) is a 10% fat diet (See Pritikin Program at your library.) and immediate IV chelation. See the archives about chelation as to how he can find a real physician in his area trained in this procedure.

Let us know how he does.

Walt



Re: helping you/consult

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 01, 2001 at 08:19:58:

In Reply to: Re: helping you/consult posted by Jackie on July 30, 2001 at 18:45:39:

Hi, Jackie.

Helping You is doing what she does on this BB as an act of love, just as I am. I have never met her or even know her name. I just judge her on the basis of the quality of what she says. I am not even sure she is a she.

The Bible says "Be your brother's keeper." Seems like a good idea to me.

Walt

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Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by vickir on August 01, 2001 at 11:43:34:

In Reply to: Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 01, 2001 at 07:52:51:

Thank you so much, Walt. To answer your question, yes, I would say his blood pressure is controlled by the ProCardia. I believe he told me it runs around 140/80.

I don't know how easy it will be for him to limit his calories from fat to 10%. He takes flax oil and cottage cheese for prostate cancer (works great), but I will send him the details of the Pritikin diet.

Chelation therapy is problematic, since he would have to drive 60 miles one way to find a physician who provides it. It's very frustrating for me -- I live 350 miles away and can't be of much help to him.

I'll tell him about your recommendation for the aspirin dosage. I suppose, under the circumstances, it's not advisable for him to take ginkgo biloba. (There's no point in his asking his doctor about it. The guy's standard response to questions about supplements has always been "I don't know anything about that.") Maybe the aspirin will benefit his Meniere's as well.

I read in the archives about SR. I'm afraid that, at his age, my dad probably won't be terribly receptive, but I'll discuss it with him when I see him next month.

I do have one more question--his ultrasound showed his carotid and vertebral arteries to be clear. How likely is it that the situation is different elsewhere in his circulatory system?

By the way, I couldn't agree more with your comments about my dad's doofus physician. Aaargh!

Thanks again for providing this board. It has been invaluable to me and many of my family and friends.

Vicki R.



Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 02, 2001 at 11:19:50:

In Reply to: Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.) posted by vickir on August 01, 2001 at 11:43:34:

Thanks, vickir.

He has small vessel disease. This is the most responsive to chelation and not responsive to surgery at all.

What else does your dad do with his time? Two hours to the chelating doc 4 hours there and 2 hours back can easily be done in a day. Three times a week for 10 weeks would get him his 30 treatments and delay for years the strokes that are surely coming. If he also did the diet he would NEVER have any.

The problem is that he needs enough facts to decide whether he wants to resolve this or deal with the strokes and disability that are surely coming. Once he has the facts, he will find a way to do what he needs to do. Until then he is just waiting for it to happen. The aspirin is only going to delay this for a year or so.

Sorry to have to be so blunt but if he is going to do this he doesn't have much time to make up his mind and do it. The aspirin will serve to get him the time for it to work IF he gets started very soon.

Good luck.

Walt



Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by vickir on August 03, 2001 at 10:11:57:

In Reply to: Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 02, 2001 at 11:19:50:

I wish it were only a problem of time. The biggest obstacle is that he would have to drive into the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex--unless I can locate a chelating doctor somewhere else within driving distance. He is very open to trying unconventional methods if I show him the supporting data.

As for being blunt, there's no need to apologize. We want to know what we're dealing with.

Thanks again.

Vicki R.



Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 05, 2001 at 09:47:19:

In Reply to: Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.) posted by vickir on August 03, 2001 at 10:11:57:

Thanks, vickir.

What did ACAM give you?

MY ACAM directory lists 30 docs in Texas alone. That is in the 1994 directory. There are surely more now.

Besides a list of docs, they can give you articles and more than 3000 references supporting chelation world wide; more information than anyone can digest.

Walt



Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.)

Posted by vickir on August 07, 2001 at 13:19:51:

In Reply to: Re: Walt - please help! (Archive in TIAs.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 05, 2001 at 09:47:19:

I found a lengthy list on the ACAM site. Still, the closest ones to my dad are in the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex. There are a couple in Wichita Falls, where my aunt lives, one in Waco, where my brother lives, and a couple where I live--all even further away, requiring my folks to go to wherever and stay for the 10-week period. That's a big problem for my mother, who is basically house-bound. We're now looking into renting a unit in an assisted-living center in the metroplex for the 10 weeks.

I have loads of information on chelation. My dad is very open to receiving the treatment; it's just the logistics that are killing us.

Will let you know how all this works out.

Thanks again.

Vicki R.

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