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In Reply to: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 2003 at 07:44:07:
Dr Stoll:
Thanks for the article. I have been trying to eliminate sugar from my diet for almost a year now. I have been somewhat successful in cutting my sugar consumption way down, but have yet to be able to completely eliminate it. I don't know if there is a direct correlation or not, but last year I tested positive on an ANA test (titer=1:1,280). All subsequent testing for specific autoimmune diseases came back negative. During the following year I cut my sugar consumption way back and took colostrum everyday. When I retested 12 months later, the ANA was negative. Do you think this could have been connected to sugar supressing the immune system? My other question is, that the article says sugar elevates serotonin levels, but while I was taking a tricyclic anti-depressant, my sugar cravings were even worse. Wouldn't you think that since the anti-depressant was raising serotonin levels my sugar cravings would have been less? Just curious.
Mary
In Reply to: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll on July 28, 2003 at 07:44:07:
Thanks Walt.
Just thought I'd tell the board that about 3 months ago I decided to cut out most sugar (I know some sugar is in certain foods, but I decided to cut out added sugar to start with). I used to take one teaspoon of sugar in my organic decaff coffee and regular tea, thinking I don't need this stuff!
I have been doing this for some time now but I CANNOT somehow get this out of my head. I do not like any beverage - tea, coffee or whatever without sugar but I am determined to get by without it. I feel I may be addicted to it. One day I was feeling really shitty and I made myself a decaff coffee and thought oh what the hell I will have a tiny bit of sugar in it. My God, you would not believe how good I felt on drinking this - yes, I can believe it increases serotonin because it made me feel satisfied, happy and contended. For three months or so I have been drinking two cups of organic de-caff coffee without sugar and thinking what the hell am I drinking this for, I don't even like it. YET, when I have a bit of sugar in it, I feel really good.
What is going on here? I want out with sugar, but when I have a bit it makes me feel so good!
In Reply to: Re: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Mary on July 28, 2003 at 08:51:33:
Hi, Mary.
The answer to your first question is a resounding YES.
The other question is best understood by a question: If you were trying to break a heroin addiction, and someone kept slipping you a little every day--but not enough to supply your habit--how do you think you would feel?
This is why no one should try to break a sugar addiction without having Beth Loiselle, RD'd book at hand and being perfect for a couple of weeks.
Let us know what you learn and how you do.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Maz on July 28, 2003 at 17:00:56:
Hi, Maz.
This is traditionally called "Hair of the dog who bit you." Ask any alcoholic. This will keep happening until you are pure for about 6 months.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 2003 at 07:55:10:
I LOVED Dr. Stoll's comparison to a heroin addict. I once weighed 265 pounds--I now weigh 140. I eat no sugar or flour. When I started the food plan, I wanted to have "little bits of something" just ever so often. After a period of time, I would end up falling face first into something sugary, floury, and fatty (donuts were my #1).
Anyway, a recovered drug addict (9 years clean) said, "We call what you're doing skin popping. An addict can't do it. It sets up the craving."
That helped me so much!
As a matter of fact, it also helped me get out of a destructive relationship. Instead of seeing "him" one more time to "talk it over" or "get closure" or any of the other lies I told myself...I chose abstinence from him. No more skin popping. No more calls, driving by, you know the drill.
I have accepted that there are some things I can't handle "a little of."
In Reply to: Re: More on Sugar addiction. (Archive.) posted by Glo on July 29, 2003 at 16:03:47:
Thanks, Glo.
This is so common and so obvious, it is absolutely amazing to me that it is so seldom discussed.
Namaste`
Walt
--- "Misty L. Trepke"
> Comments?
> Misty L. Trepke
> http://www.searching-alternatives.com
>
> Like A Kid in a Candy Store
> by Brigitte Mars
>
> http://innerself.com/Health/mars07243.htm
>
> Sugar is not only the most prevalent addiction in our society, but
> it's also the least recognized and one of the hardest to kick. You
> may think, What's this -- sugar? An addiction? The answer is a
> resounding yes!
> Think about it -- have you ever seen a kid freak out in the vegetable
>
> aisle? And have you ever had an overwhelming, makes-your-mouth-water,
> not-to-be-denied craving for, say, a turnip? Doesn't quite inspire
> the same feelings of passion that so many of us -- especially women
> --
> have for chocolate, does it?
>
> Sugar, like a drug, makes the body feel good, and when that feeling
> passes, the body craves more. Yet almost no one calls sugar an
> addictive substance. What's truly frightening about it is that sugar
> is found in practically every food product on the grocery store
> shelf. Are we a society of unknowing addicts? Perhaps.
>
> Sweet History
> Sugar is derived from sugarcane (Saccharum oficinarum) and sugar beet
> (Beta vulgaris).
>
> Sugar was so precious in past ages that it was used only in small
> amounts to flavor medicines. And it was expensive -- in the early
> fourteenth century sugar sold for two shillings a pound in London.
> Today this would be about a hundred dollars a kilo, or almost fifty
> dollars a pound.
> One hundred years ago the average American ate about four pounds of
> sugar a year. Now that number has risen to about 150 pounds per
> person per year.
> That adds up to five tons in a lifetime!
>
> White sugar as we know it first became available in 1812, when a
> chemist found a way to make "chemically pure" sugar, defined as 99.5
> percent sucrose.
>
> To make white sugar, sugarcane is first crushed, or sugar beets are
> first sliced, and infused in hot water. The cane or beets are then
> fed through rollers to extract their juice. The juice is filtered
> through charred animal bones to remove impurities, then boiled to
> allow excess water to evaporate, and then seeded with sugar crystals
> to encourage crystallization. After crystallization the sugar is spun
> in high-speed machines, similar to clothes dryers, which separate the
> sugar from the syrup.
>
> In traditional Chinese medicine
> sugar cravings are seen as
> a desire for "the mother energy"
> or a need for comfort and security.
>
> A Refined Dependency
> In our society we are born and bred to be sugar addicts. Unlike other
> highly addictive substances -- cocaine, heroin, prescription drugs --
> which can be difficult to procure, finding food products without
> sugar can be a challenge. By the time most people have their first
> experience with alcohol, tobacco, or drugs, they've been sugar
> addicts for years.
>
> Nature most likely planned us to be attracted to the nutrients
> available in sweet foods. For example, our first food, mother's milk,
> is naturally sweet. However, the process of refining -- which is as
> complex as that for getting heroin from poppies and cocaine from coca
> leaves -- removes all the accompanying nutrients and fiber from the
> original plant material.
> Only the sucrose is kept. Because sugar is so refined, it doesn't
> require much processing by the body and passes almost directly into
> the intestines and bloodstream just like a drug. And like a drug,
> sugar can be habit forming. If you don't think you're addicted, just
> try to go a couple of weeks without it!
>
> Sugar addiction is, in part, a by-product of sugar's purity -- the
> body is not suited to accommodate this level of refinement. Simple
> sugars -- found in white table sugar, corn syrup, fructose, honey,
> white flour, or any other super-refined carbohydrate -- are refined
> to the point that digestion is practically superfluous. When you
> consume simple sugars, they are passed quickly into the bloodstream.
> Blood sugar levels skyrocket, and you experience a lift in energy.
> But that feeling of increased energy and mental alertness is very
> temporary. As most of us can confirm, sugar highs lead to sugar
> crashes. And when that buzz wears off, the body cries out for more
> sugar.
>
> Sugar is also an antidepressant of sorts. Consumption of sugar
> triggers the release of the brain chemical serotonin, which elevates
> mood and alleviates depression. Sugar cravings are often a misguided
> attempt by the body to increase serotonin levels in the system and
> thus elevate mood.
> Sugar cravings can also be caused by low endorphin levels,
> hypoglycemia, endocrine imbalances, candida, and nutritional
> deficiencies.
>
> Those suffering from sugar addiction often experience irritability,
> headaches, mood swings, and insomnia. Signs of sugar withdrawal
> include restlessness, nervousness, headache, and depression.
>
> Studies in prisons indicate that violence is remarkably reduced when
> sugar and refined carbohydrates are eliminated from the diet.
>
> The Real Scoop on Sugar
> It's an undisputed fact that sugar contributes to dental cavities.
> Sugar interacts with bacteria in the mouth to produce acids that make
> holes in the teeth enamel. Sugar also contributes to plaque
> accumulation.
> Knowing this, do we cut back on our sugar consumption? No. We simply
> put fluoride in our drinking water and train more dentists.
>
> But sugar has a great many more ill effects on the human body. Sugar
> stands accused of causing both hypoglycemia and diabetes. It has been
> linked to numerous mental disorders, including depression,
> hyperactivity, obsessive-compulsive disorders, and phobias. It
> weakens the immune system, encourages the growth of infections, and
> lowers the production of antibodies. It overtaxes the spleen,
> pancreas, and small intestines.
> Overconsumption of sugar contributes to the development of allergies,
> anemia, arthritis, cancer, Crohn's disease, gout, headaches, heart
> disease, herpes, hyperactivity, impotence, obesity, osteoporosis,
> PMS, and yeast infections.
>
> Sugar is often called an antinutrient. Overconsumption of simple
> sugars causes the body to use up its supplies of calcium, potassium,
> thiamin, and chromium. And all sugars, even natural ones, appear to
> compete with vitamin C for transportation into white blood cells.
> Without adequate amounts of vitamin C, the immune system becomes
> severely compromised.
>
> Sugar and Diabetes
> The link between sugar consumption and diabetes was recognized as
> long ago as 1929, when Sir Frederick Banting observed that Panamanian
> sugar plantation owners, who consumed refined sugar, had a much
> higher incidence of diabetes than their workers, who ate only
> unrefined cane sugar.
>
> When simple sugars are ingested, they raise blood glucose levels. The
> pancreas responds by releasing insulin, which stabilizes the blood
> sugar levels. Over time, if simple sugars are overconsumed, the
> pancreas becomes overly sensitive to sugar, and insulin secretion
> becomes excessive, causing a persistent hypoglycemic state. If this
> pattern continues, the pancreas becomes overworked and ceases to be a
> reliable source of insulin; the body suffers from elevated blood
> sugar levels and can develop Type 2 diabetes. The incidence of
> adult-onset diabetes in the United States has increased
> proportionately to the increase in sugar consumption.
> Diabetes is now the seventh leading cause of death in the United
> States.
>
> The -Ose Cousins
> Check the ingredients list on some prepared foods in your
> refrigerator and cabinets. You just might be surprised at how much
> sugar is in them.
> Don't see "sugar" listed? Look for its "-ose" cousins: fructose,
> dextrose, sucrose, maltose, et cetera. They may hide behind high-tech
> chemical names, but at heart they're all sugar.
>
> The -ose cousins come in a range of molecular complexity.
> Monosaccharides, or simple sugars, are quickly digested and passed on
> almost directly to the bloodstream. Disaccharides are slightly more
> complex; they must be broken down by enzymes before they can be fully
> digested.
> Polysaccharides are even more complex; these are the sugars you find
> naturally occurring in whole grains and starches. The more complex a
> sugar is, the more slowly it's digested, and the less startling the
> effect it has on your blood sugar levels.
>
> Some of the more common -ose cousins you're likely to come across
> include:
>
> . Dextrose is made from corn, sugarcane, or sugar beets. It's a
> highly refined monosaccharide and is thus very quickly absorbed.
>
> . Fructose, also known as levulose, occurs naturally in fruits, many
> plants, and honey. For commercial purposes it's derived from corn,
> sugarcane, or sugar beets. Although it's more slowly absorbed than
> white sugar (sucrose), it's still a highly refined simple sugar. It's
>
> slightly sweeter than white sugar.
>
> . Glucose is the same sugar our bodies use for energy; it's also
> found in many fruits, vegetables, and grains. Glucose is stored by
> the liver in the form of glycogen and released when a burst of energy
> is needed. It's a monosaccharide, or simple sugar, and is absorbed
> into the bloodstream almost immediately. When glucose is derived from
> foods such as legumes and whole grains, it's metabolized more slowly
> and is easier on the body.
>
> . Lactose is a disaccharide composed of glucose and galactose. Found
> in the milk of mammalian mothers, it's only slightly sweet.
>
> . Maltose. Also known as malt sugar, maltose is found in barley and
> rice syrups. As a disaccharide, or complex sugar, it takes longer to
> digest, which is desirable: it keeps blood sugar levels from
> skyrocketing.
> It's made by the fermentation of starches by enzymes or yeast.
>
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