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Thought this would be of interest to the board...
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In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
Sugar is slow poison. Thanks for posting that.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
For 10 years I have been trying to tell my psyc about the link to sugar and my anxiety/ocd. Nobody seems to want to listen to me and I'm usually dismissed in some way. I am what I call a sugar addict to the extreme. It is like cocaine to me. I think/dream about it all the time. I have tried to find therapy for this addiction but there aren't many resourses out there to help me. when I am off the sugar I get better within 3-4 months. I have no anxiety,panic attacks, ocd rituals, agoraphobia at all. When I fall off the wagon and start to eat sugar again my symptoms come back after a few months with a vengeance rendering me housebound. Again, once I get off the sugar it clears up again. Currently I have been off sugar for 3 months and I'm just taking it one day at a time. It's the hardest thing in the world for me to do. I often go to bed crying because my need for sugar is so powerful. But I stay off it because I want to function as a normal human being. I AM SO SICK OF MY PSYC TRYING TO DELVE IN TO MY SUBCONSCIOUS MIND BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO THINK MY CONDITION IS FROM SOME CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. My mental disorder is 100% brain chemistry malfunction. The reason I know this is because when I'm off the sugar I am 100% better. I can get on a plane today and fly to japan if I wanted to. However, when I am on the sugar I can't even step outside my front door without feeling like I am dying of a heart attack.
Just needed to vent. I hope someday somebody listens to me.
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
not sure why they distinguished fizzy sugar drinks from non-fizzy- a lot of sports drinks are full of sugar.
Also, in US sodas are mostly sweetened with corn syrup instead of sugar. Mexico apparantly has real sugar in their Coke and Pepsi. Don't know which sweetners other countries use.
While I have no doubt drinking a lot of sugar can mess with your mind, I would also wonder if these kids have a problem with hypoglycemia (which can cause confusion as the brain stops supporting rational thought in favor of the more vital systems). These kids may be self- medicating with soda to treat their undiagnosed hypoglycemia.
Just some thoughts.
In Reply to: AMEN!!!! posted by jen [5481.10] on September 29, 2006 at 14:03:23:
Be grateful you found out what causes your health problems.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by ANN [1003.516] on September 29, 2006 at 14:38:36:
When you mentioned Mexico using real sugar in their colas, it reminded me of an article I read in our newspaper a couple of years ago. It was something about trying to get our government to "force" Mexico to buy high fructose corn syrup from us (to expand our "corn market"). As I recall reading, HFCS is the absolutely worst kind of sugar to ingest. Kudos to Mexico for trying to keep it out of their food supply....and jeers to the US for trying to force our unhealthy stuff on others! So maddening.......
Tabby
(who misses colas)
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Tabby [6.1461] on September 29, 2006 at 16:56:11:
here in the SW, the Mexican version of soft drinks is being imported into the US to meet the preferences of Hispanic customers. Dolar General carries a line of Mexican products, don't know what other chains carry stuff like that.
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
I remember in college one of my professors (science) was talking about soft drinks saying they don't know for sure sugar is the problem - it could be the carbonation or other things about the drinks. This was in about 1964.
Barbara, Larry, and cats
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
Good article, Labrat.
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
And Norway is a country where children (and adults) eat bread for lunch, instead of hot meals. Bread for breakfast, lunch, and simple hot meal for dinner. I have tried to live on this diet for some years, and it nearly killed me...
More studies are necessary. Despite the reuslts, some Norwegian officials holding positions in institutions such as WTO, still don't link sugar and mental illness.
I get so upset sometimes with the reactionary attitudes of people in charge of ordinary peoples' health, I could burst.
The societal costs are just beyond these officials' imagination. I believe overconsumption of stimulants weakens the genetic basis for the next generations:it lowers fertility, increases succeptibility to all kinds of illnesses, and creates new social classes - fairly functional and dysfunctional. But as long taking care of the dysfunctional is big business, this vicious circle is bound to continue.
Sorry for the rant, but what I'm saying is true. We should stand up and protest more.
Sonja
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Sonja [4406.2287] on September 30, 2006 at 06:59:08:
nmi
In Reply to: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [1119.2844] on September 29, 2006 at 10:32:03:
Thanks, Labrat.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Sonja [4406.2287] on September 30, 2006 at 06:59:08:
"I get so upset sometimes with the reactionary attitudes of people in charge of ordinary peoples' health, I could burst."
We are in charge of our own health. If we continue to depend on others to make decisions for us, choosing not to listen to our own bodies, intuitions and common sense, then we are to blame. When we hand over responsibility to others, then we accept what they choose for us...
Protests might draw attention, but choosing our own way will make the biggest difference.
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In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Sonja [4406.2287] on September 30, 2006 at 06:59:08:
Sonja, the part about us norwegians eating bread for breakfast, lunch, and having a hot meal only for dinner is SO true! :o
I'd love to eat more hot meals througout the day, but it's not easy to make a hot meal in the short time before going to school in the morning. And we can't get hot meals at my school. So there you go, bread for breakfast and lunch :\
Please feel free to point me in the right direction for easy, quick, and tasty recipies.
I must say though, that I stay totally away from white bread. I try to get the bread with most whole grains. But that's not easy to find either.
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by labrat [5740.2761] on September 30, 2006 at 19:08:00:
Duh! Children are getting mental illness, and the reactionary "world health officials" are in complete denial about sugar - and I should be cynical enough to ignore this and just resume charge of my own health. Whatever!
It is my sense of justice that hurts!!! Well if we -responsible adults do not react on behalf of these kids - then who will??? Once we realise the magnitude of the problem we are delivering to the next generations, how can we not protest?! I always speak up and it does make a difference. If more people did protest, the world would have been a different place.
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Martin from Norway [5490.2738] on October 01, 2006 at 16:22:47:
Hi Martin!
it is difficult when the other kids seem to tolerate food that you don't, and there are no options. I would love to improve the state of the Norwegian school meals. But people prefer the easy options, and bread is considered 'easy meal' in Norway, as you probably know.
I'll send you some meal suggestions in a new thread.
Sonja
PS Det er sent nå, må legge meg...skriver i morgen :)
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Sonja [4406.2287] on October 01, 2006 at 18:43:55:
Ey, didn't know there was other active norwegian readers here! :D
Bread is the easy meal, indeed. At ordinary days at school, i eat bread for breakfast, lunch, and supper. That's just the way it's always been. I'd really like to make myself some more tasty meals, at least for supper. And it would be easiest to start changing what I'm eating for supper.
But when I look back at my eatinghabits, I'm eating better now. For example, I didn't eat any vegetables, barely any fruit, and i consumed bread (no whole grains) with jam pluss milk with chockolate powder every single day. I wonder why I never got tired of it.
Probably because it was like eating candy.
Ser fram mot tråden med oppskrifter :)
In Reply to: Re: Sugar article from Reuters posted by Martin from Norway [5490.2738] on October 02, 2006 at 16:40:36:
It's a small world, isn't it?
Actually I am not Norwegian, only married to one. But I have been living here for almost 20 years.
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