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Walt,
I recently drove to the Pfeiffer Treatment Center in Illinois and had their plethora of tests completed (hair, urine and blood analysis) in addition to a long consultation with a nurse and doctor there. The test results are in and show very high histamine levels, a zinc deficiency and pyroluria. Soon I will be getting their vitamin supplementation plan, specifically individualized just for me, sent to me. I was very curious as to your thoughts on the Pfeiffer Treatment Center---do you think highly of them or not?
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll.....re: the Pfeiffer Treatment Center posted by Mike on December 01, 2002 at 02:40:09:
Mike,
My son has been on Pfeiffer Treatment Center vitamins for over 4 years. We do the follow-up testing through the mail. IMO, they are great at what they do. They try to balance the body through vitamin supplementation.
They did not catch malabsorption causes, which I figured out through a comment they made, "Well, his absorption isn't quite what we'd like." (after my son was on the vitamins for six months & this was after our first follow-up). I said, "Well, what will help malabsorption?" The nurse replied, "Well, the vitamins will ..." That didn't sound right to me, as we had been 100% compliant morning & night with the vitamins. It did start me researching every single thing that could cause malabsorption. I found that antibiotics can cause yeast overgrowth, which causes malabsorption. I found that celiac disease can cause malabsorption. I've been trying to correct both. I also found that, like they said, the biochemical imbalances themselves can cause your body not to absorb nutrients (heavy metals, etc.) ...
If you have the patience & perserverance in being nearly 100% compliant with the vitamins, changing your diet to be as whole foods as you can & eliminate additives, dyes, all the things that will interfere with absorption, and if you can take the time to also read up on what you are doing and why & do what Dr. Stoll recommends with exercise and skilled relaxation, the vitamins will be more readily absorbed. (try to learn as much as you can to help yourself)
Now that I know as much as I do (Dr. Stoll helped guide me through all this) I would definitely mostly eat meats & beans & nuts & fruits & veggies and try to avoid grains & yeast (breads). I personally also think that milk is only a convenience food and bread is a filler...
My son is doing much better. We aren't 100% there, yet, but if you had seen how far he has come, you would definitely be thankful you went to Pfeiffer.
Other websites that will help you are www.greatplainslaboratory.com and www.gsdl.com The books on Natural Healing by the Balch's are also great. I think the names are Prescription for Natural Healing & there are a few others. You can look up all these different things in those books and they also tell you what vitamins are to help balance what, so it will help you understand what Pfeiffer is trying to help you do.
Good luck and sorry for butting in, but thought you might like someone with first-hand experience.
Straw
In Reply to: Not Dr. Stoll, but butting in here anyway, lol posted by Straw on December 01, 2002 at 11:24:27:
Thank you so much for your response!
It was very much appreciated.
I already own the Balch's "Prescription for Natural Healing"
book; I read a LOT to try and help myself.
I have always loved exercising. Following Pfeiffer's supplementation program will also be easy as I will definitely take their supplements religiously.
The diet part seems almost impossible.
I have allergies/food sensitivities to dairy and wheat. The casein and gluten are in just about everything!! I might as well just live totally out of a backyard garden! Pfeiffer and I don't even know if the dairy and wheat is really causing my problems or not; they make my eyes itch but other than that I don't know if they have much to do with my problems. My histamine levels were found to be very high by Pfeiffer. That blocks serotonin production, which DOES seem to be my biggest problem. Why my histamine levels are so high is still a mystery to me though. The 'Root Cause', as they say, is the mystery. Depression & OCD are my big problems. These problems run in my family's history. Pfeiffer also found that I tested high for pyroluria. Fish oils, mag./calcium, etc., are part of Pfeiffer's prescribed treatment plan. May I ask what your son's major problem(s) is(are)? I was just wondering if he was being treated for anything similar to myself. The tests that Pfeiffer performed were the FIRST tests like that that ANYBODY ever did on me! NO shrink EVER tested me for squat! Their drugs DID help very much but still, I wanted to attack the root cause. Any comments that you would ever have regarding Pfeiffer would be fantastic to hear. I hope that your son continues to feel better and better! (I also have to go and get a homocysteine test and have the results sent back to Pfeiffer soon). Happy Holidays to you and your family Straw!
In Reply to: Not Dr. Stoll, but butting in here anyway, lol posted by Straw on December 01, 2002 at 11:24:27:
You mentioned that "I found that antibiotics can cause yeast overgrowth, which causes malabsorption. I found that celiac disease can cause malabsorption. I've been trying to correct both."
How have you tried correcting these problems (is this Leaky Gut Syndrome)?
In Reply to: Dr. Stoll.....re: the Pfeiffer Treatment Center posted by Mike on December 01, 2002 at 02:40:09:
Hi, Mike.
The Pfeiffer center is far advanced but they still do not appreciate the importance of SR in all of this. They started with nutritional factors alone and have never progressed beyond this one thing--typical with successful centers; they stick with the discipline they know when combining disciplines would be so much more effective. Combining SR with what they already know would greatly advance the effectiveness of what they do.
When anyone finally figures out how to do the nutritional typing for the individual (which I do not think has yet been accomplished) a center like the Pfeiffer Center will be the one to do it.
With these provisos, I DO think highly of them.
Thanks, Straw.
Hope this helps.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Dr. Stoll.....re: the Pfeiffer Treatment Center (Archive in supplements.) posted by Walt Stoll on December 02, 2002 at 07:43:24:
I have been doing the SR and will continue.
I use the Centerpointe CD's.
Thus far, I can't say that I've noticed much (if any) difference (it's only been 3-4 weeks).
In Reply to: Straw Re: Not Dr. Stoll, but butting in here anyway, lol posted by Mike on December 01, 2002 at 16:24:16:
Mike,
For celiac, we totally eliminate gluten & also most casein. Gluten is in Wheat, oats, barley & rye grains. It is the protein in the grain. Casein is the protein in dairy. My son does have real butter (mostly the fat of dairy, not the protein).
For candida yeast & leaky gut, etc. we try to avoid refined foods (processed). I did for four months & then have slowly added back in a few things when I cannot avoid it. We mostly eat protein, fruits & veggies, but we buy brown rice bread from Whole Foods. We buy soy ice cream and I use rice pasta and quinoa pasta & corn pasta. We use whole corn chips a lot. I make nachos with whole corn chips, pinto beans, hamburger meat with onion and then we use guacamole made of avocados and tomatoes for topping with salsa. (no cheese) I had to learn to cook a little differently and it was not easy.
Today for lunch he took cooked shrimp (frozen). It will thaw by lunch and he has a little cocktail sauce to dip it in. He also has popcorn and pretzels I order from Miss Robens. I also make cakes & treats from gluten free mixes that I order online from Miss Robens. I also put an orange in his lunch. We just do things a little differently at our household. For halloween, he went trick or treating. I allow him to choose 5 small pieces of gfcf candy & I "buy" the rest from him for $20 & send it to my husband's office for them to snack on. I've done this about 5 years.
My son is now 10. He had extreme behavioral problems, adhd, oppositional defiance, and learning disabilities. We adopted him at birth, and have done every therapy (O.T. P.T. biofeedback, vision therapy, social skills, special schools and lots of other things)... the diet is just part of it.
For candida yeast he has taken bio-remedy kits that we got from Pfeiffer, Nystatin powder, and we also give lots of pro-biotics.
Hope that info helps! You might look at Primal Defense for Candida yeast, also. I have some & have taken some myself, but I think I've only given my son one of them before. Mostly we try to avoid refined foods as much as possible & give pro-biotics. (also I add garlic capsules to his vitamin regime)
Straw
In Reply to: Leaky Gut, Candida & Celiac posted by Straw on December 02, 2002 at 17:14:30:
(nmi)
In Reply to: Dr Stoll Re: Dr. Stoll.....re: the Pfeiffer Treatment Center posted by Mike on December 02, 2002 at 10:17:02:
Thanks, Mike.
3-4 weeks is little enough to see any long term benefits, although you should have seen some of the short term benefits by now. Perhaps Certerpoint is not your "way".
Walt
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