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Walt
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
Thanks Walt - good article! I listened to a heart doctor talk yesterday about the study - best to take Vit. E in a multi-vitamin - not alone, and not more than 400 IU....
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
I just bought a bunch of E separate from my
naturopath.. so.. certainly will be using them..
boy if it isnt one thing it is another
400 is my dose..
Sedona :)
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
I think (imho) Big Phamaceuticals is behind it again. $$$$
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
Hi,
I read an article in Life Extension that had this to say about the study:
"The full meta-analysis, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine, clearly indicates "high dosage trials evaluated as part of the meta-analysis were often small and were performed in patients with chronic diseases". Therefore, the researchers' conclusion that there is an increase in total mortality among people who were taking high dosage Vitamin E supplementation can, at best, only be applied to patients who were already suffering from major illnesses such as heart disease.
It is crucial to note that the study does not suggest that Vitamin E was the cause of death among these people who were already afflicted with a life-threatening illness.
It is equally important to note that this is not a clinical study but a skewed statistical review. The researchers ignored all studies where there was no indication of increased mortality and focused solely on people who died, from any cause, during the study evaluation timeline.
This research does not actually evaluate benefits or risks of Vitamin E supplementation on the general population, so it is extremely irresponsible to conclude that there is any risk "...to the millions of North Americans who take vitamin E supplements". To Jamieson Laboratories' knowledge, no clinical study has been published that documents any toxicity associated with Vitamin E."
Hope this sets things straight.
Tonia
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
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In Reply to: Re: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Jayne [819.91] on November 12, 2004 at 07:11:14:
Thanks, Jayne.
Of course, 400 units is nearly 100 times the RDA. Even though this is perfectly safe it is hard for the profession to get their minds around the concept of pharmacological doses.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Tonia [166.842] on November 12, 2004 at 13:49:51:
Thanks, Tonia.
Walt
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
Hi Walt, it also occurs to me that a group of 136,000 elderly subjects would naturally be heavier users of medications; in fact, these patients were known to have chronic diseases. That being the case, I can only imagine what the result might have been if the study authors had been looking at the adverse health effects of individual meds! Thanks for the article. The truth is "out there"...you just have to look for it!
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
Hi Walt, I was also thinking that a group of 136,000 elderly subjects would be heavier users of medication. And since the study indicated they were plagued with chronic diseases, I can only imagine what the result might have been if the study authors had been looking at the adverse health effects of individual meds! Thanks for the article.
In Reply to: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on November 12, 2004 at 06:51:06:
1. CHF is the… most common diagnosis in hospital patients age 65 years and older. In that age group, one fifth of all hospitalizations have a primary or secondary diagnosis of heart failure. (from statistics).
2. "One of the body’s most powerful defenses against free radical damage is the antioxidant vitamin E. The natural form, d-alpha tocopherol, can also be cautiously used to strengthen and regulate heartbeat. An initial dose of vitamin E would be only about 50 International (I.U.) daily. This is roughly equivalent to 50 milligrams (mg). To avoid any possible risks of an asymmetric heart contraction, patients with congestive heart failure need to start small with vitamin E. Doses may be gradually increased under medical supervision. For additional information, it is most worthwhile to read any books by Drs. Wilfrid or Evan Shute." (http://www.doctoryourself.com/biblio_shute.html )
From articles on CHF at doctoryourself.com.
3."The study was criticised by the Alliance for Natural Health, however, which noted that the study focused on synthetic rather than natural vitamin E."
In my non-professional opinion, it may be safe to say that a few, at least, of the participants had Congestive Heart Failure unless they were screened out. If they were not and the above (2.) is correct, combined with (3.), as well as the possibility that blood thinners may have been taken - then these factors might explain the deaths. But if I had this in my notes and can see the problems, why couldn't they?
In Reply to: Re: Concerning the recent disinformation campaign about Vitamin E. Archive. posted by Jessica [30.1603] on November 19, 2004 at 02:28:04:
Thanks, Jessica.
The only reason I can see is that the economic/political disinformation campaign is still a great support for the allopathic paradigm and monopoly.
Walt
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