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Hello,
I know I have said this in the past. I have become convinced that we should not be taking synthetic vitamin supplements UNLESS we know we have a deficiency in a certain vitamin and this is being given to correct that deficiency under a doctor.
I have thought about this long and hard and I can tell you that in the past I have taken bucket loads of supplements, all because I wanted to ensure I got every nutrient I should be getting. This attitude is totally wrong.
The only way to get our full complement of nutrients is through our food! If we are deficient in something then I do agree we should supplement for the time it takes to put that right.
There are so many cofactors and enzymes involved in our daily nutritional needs I have come to the conclusion lately that we should not be doing it.
Therefore, about 6 months ago I stopped all my supplements except magnesium glycinate (because I feel I may still be deficient) and I take cod liver oil because it keeps my bowels moving very well.
Other than that I have stopped all my supplements, and believe me I was taking a cartload - 1 gram of vit c, multi vit (strong), multi mineral, CoE10, vitE, Complex B and more ....
Please read the link about this. I just confirms what I have been thinking for so long and I feel happy about my decision to stop taking synthetic vitamin supplements.
Maz
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
I agree with you but what about the Vitamin C? As it is water soluble it needs to be replenished daily. I am looking for a whole food Vitamin C supplement so if you know of any that would be great.
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by BB [98.2856] on November 08, 2006 at 15:31:45:
Hello BB,
For Vit C you need to look at the foods that provide that, and not only provide the vitamin, but also all of the cofactors that are needed to go with it to enable your body to use it.
You can find all of that in blueberries, strawberries, oranges (if you also eat the pithe), blackberries and lemons. I buy them every week in the supermarket. Mostly I can get them organic, which is a bonus!
Blueberries, blackberries and strawberries are probably the best sources of Vit C you can get. Also, green vegetables such as cabbage, brocolli etc. do the same, but to a lesser degree.
Love Maz
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:36:53:
Hi Maz,
My dad says the soil is so depleated of nutrients that there is not the same amount of vitamins in foods as there used to be. That's why he supplements. What do you think of this, also would you eat genetically altered fruits? If it's not organic, how do you know if they were altered?
Thank you,
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Amy [3201.2880] on November 08, 2006 at 17:00:51:
Hi Amy,
Yes I know about the depleted soil. However, if you buy organic I know the Soil Association here in the UK who certify whether food is organic, have certain standards and the soil has to be free from all chemicals. They advocate enriching the soil for organic food with animal manure, like in the old days, and compost that has been produced by natural sources. All of this enriches the soil with the nutrients that the plants need to flourish and grow.
There was a study done recently by the Soil Association about organically grown vegetables and their nutrient contents as against non-organic food. The study proved that the organic food had up to 60-75% more vitamin and mineral content than the non-organic vegetables. They concluded that this is because it is grown in fertile soil without pesticides and with good old fashioned manure. That's good enough for me!
You can grow your own you know. I do some, and I buy seaweed extract as well as the natural manure. The seaweed extract provides a host of minerals that are depleted from our normal soils. Brilliant for all home grown foodstuffs.
Love Maz
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 17:09:28:
Amy, I forgot to answer your question. No I would definitely NOT EVER eat any genetically altered food. No way!
It is still illegal here in the UK but I feel it will become legal eventually. I will not eat it though. Never in a million years!
Maz
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 17:12:28:
Thanks Maz!
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by BB [98.2856] on November 08, 2006 at 15:31:45:
why not consider ester C. It's very powerful for me.
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
A real Vit C wholefood for you. Click on link.
Maz
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
Thanks, Maz.
Walt
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
Maz,
good point. Long time ago, I find out (and posted on bb) same theory which makes tons of sense. Every vit., mineral and others need they own co-factors to work fully and without any side effects in long term use.
I don't use anymore those products, only vit.C if needed. I am going to look for acerola powder instead.
what brand of seeweed extract you use? Is it expensive?
My family in Europe has pretty big garden around their house, and I was looking for ways to help them. One of them works in UK now, S&H cost can be avoided this way.
I am going to search for "Tooth soup" from the site you posted, it seems interesting.
Matylda
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
Maz,
I agree with you. We tend to reley too much on taking a pill to cure us. Natural is always better.
Drinking fresh veggie juice is a good way to get needed nutrients.
It also depends on what your life style is. I use a sauna a lot, so I have to replace lost minerals. Someone not doing what I do may not need a liquid mineral supplement.
We have to watch as we get older because our body's stop making certain nutrients like Co-Q-10. Needed for a healthy heart.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by BB [98.2856] on November 08, 2006 at 15:31:45:
BB,
Look at www.auravita.com. Click on Vit. then on Health Aid ( Brand ). Scroll down to Vit. C, 100% pure Ultrafine powder. Mix 1/2 teaspoon with the same amount of Recancostst Powder and L-Arginine Powder in water. Take with 1 R-Alpha-Lipoic Acid tab and you have the best anti-oxident you can get your hands on.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Matylda [7142.1351] on November 09, 2006 at 10:24:56:
Hi there,
When I found out that the minerals that are lacking from our food can be found from the sea, I researched this and you can buy seaweed extract to put into your soil and this replenishes all the minerals that are lost. I got this from the internet. There are lots of websites that do this and all you need to do is Google search for it. That's how I found it.
If you have problem in doing this, let me know and I will find the website that I got it from.
Regards,
Maz
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Steve [3019.1399] on November 09, 2006 at 10:40:36:
Hi there Silver Fox,
I used to do saunas with a friend many years ago. We used to go to the West End (London) after work in our teens and have a sauna. We thought this was a good thing to do and I would come home and find my spots would erupt (teenage spots!) so I stopped going because it seemed to me that everytime I went my spots came out again.
Well, I can tell you I was in my thirties before all the spots went away!!!
Also, I read that saunas can be bad if you dont realise you have a heart or blood pressure problem and you go for a sauna. I told my other half no way will you ever have a sauna as he is under meds for high blood pressure.
People need to know what they should and shouldnt do.
Well bye for now!
Maz
In Reply to: FOR AMY posted by Maz [5538.624] on November 09, 2006 at 03:14:38:
Dear Maz, Thank you so much!!
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 09, 2006 at 15:00:15:
Maz,
Yes, for sure, research should be done before you jump into any health program. People with heart problems should not use a sauna. I think your spots were from toxins being sweated out. No? It is important to keep toweling down and removing sweat, so toxins are not reabsorbed. When I really start to sweat at 130 degrees, I have to towel every 5 minutes. Then you must replace the water and minerals you lose.
If it can work for you the health bennies are great.
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 17:12:28:
Come'on Maz, what's your price?
Silver Fox!
In Reply to: Re: How much British Sterling would it take? posted by Steve [3019.1399] on November 09, 2006 at 15:26:12:
Hello you!
I dont have a price for that! I will not succumb to eating stuff that is not natural!! I will not!!
Well, if someone offered me £1m maybe I might take a taste!! Well, wouldnt you?
Yes, I can be bought, but the price is high!!
Maz
In Reply to: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 08, 2006 at 15:21:48:
I never understood why people took suppliments, when they had No proof they needed them. To listen to someone Say, our food doesn't supply them, or some Other theory, sounded like a religion they believed in. My dad took a multi daily, and tried to convince me to. I would try them and stop, because they did nothing for me. He would tell me it would take 6mo to notice. Problem was, I had Nothing that could be improved, so what would I notice? He listened to what Others claimed, and not his body. That eventually damaged him.
After my injury, and severe pain problems from doing simple things, and I Did find that suppliments Did solve or help some of my problems, so I took, or take them, depending on What Works. If something that used to work, stops, I Stop them. I have had joint pain problems and Only take the things that have helped, When I have the problem, When it comes back. I have found that taking them when the problem is gone, doesn't help if I just stop for a few days. The problem didn't seem to be a lack of the suppliment, but what I did, that caused the problem, like joint pains, that came when I stressed my joints to an extreme. Over the years I have had 4 different joint pain problems, and all 4 have responded the same way to 4 different suppliments, with minor differences, for the pains to be gone for a Long time. One has been gone for 22yrs and others for up to 2 years at a time, without the suppliments, I don't think I needed the suppliments every day, and something other than a Lack of the suppliments was or is the cause.
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [31.2958] on November 09, 2006 at 14:54:36:
what minerals are lacking that are found in the sea, and WHO Claims it? Wouldn't they be found in fish? Someone Claimed that Iodine was one, but that can be found on land. When someone makes a claim that sounds good, I may try it, and if I Don't feel any different or better, I forget about it. I tried Krill oil, and took a few, and now it sits. Something reminded me of it the other day, and I Thought about taking it, but it wasn't worth the effort to get it out, open the bottle, and swallow it. I tried it, and found that it didn't do anything for me.
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Vince F [4572.2919] on November 09, 2006 at 18:17:38:
Hi Vince,
Yes the minerals are found in the seafood but who wants to eat a plate of seafood everyday? I don't particularly want to. The alternative is to ensure all of the 72 trace minerals are in the soil - to be absorbed by the food growing in it, which is what used to happen before chemical agriculture took over.
See link.
Regards,
Maz
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [5538.624] on November 10, 2006 at 02:57:18:
Another link for you.
In Reply to: Re: Natural v Synthetic Vitamins - An Article posted by Maz [5538.624] on November 10, 2006 at 02:57:18:
I never bought into that the soils lack minerals. It makes my diet needs simple.)) I rarely eat fish, but Do when I Want it. It rarely satisfied my hunger, and it Sure wouldn't be daily or even weekly. I used to balk at having to eat it every friday. I never felt satisfied, and felt weak from not eating meat. I let my body and cravings tell me what I should eat. If that isn't right, then we are defective.)
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