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Stadard Process Labs

There seems to be a debate about taking ascorbic acid, alpha-tocopherol, etc. Standard Process says that any refined vitamins will eventually stop working because only nature has the correct ratio of antioxidant factors, mineral cofactors, fatty acid cofactors, etc, and that only food concentrates will therefore work in the long run.

IOW ester-C or any othe vitamin C will eventually be bad for you. What are your thoughts on this? I ask because I've always done well on SP products, but I don't feel like with my athletics I am getting enough anti-oxidant protection (Still get injuries which Michael Colgan says can be prevented with more vitamin E). I've been thinking lately about taking more Vitamin E (theres not much in Cataplex E) and more antioxidants like Life Extension Mix.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

--confused.

Follow Ups:

• Re: Stadard Process Labs Trish 13:06:44 8/14/01 (0)
• Re: Standard Process Labs (Archive in supplements.) Walt Stoll 08:06:32 8/14/01 (2)
  • Re: Standard Process Labs (Archive in supplements.) jt 20:14:24 8/17/01 (1)
    • there is some evidence... LT 22:30:43 8/17/01 (0)
• Re: Stadard Process Labs PeterB 23:07:39 8/12/01 (0)

In Reply to: Stadard Process Labs posted by jt on August 12, 2001 at 12:55:17:

I believe whole food vitamins are the way to go. There are bound to be new vitamins discovered in the next hundred years, even new classes of nutrients. These "co-factors" will not be discovered in vitamin bottles sitting on health food store shelves, but in complex foods. Taking whole food vitamins gives you the benefits of these undiscovered substances now. I've been taking MegaFood products for nearly two years, following a period of taking isolates from different makers. Both seem to work as far as the ability to detect improved energy and overall well-being is concerned. But what about the micro-nutrient world where battles against disease are fought and won? You can't live on isolates alone. I prefer supplements that are as close to the real thing as possible.

In Reply to: Stadard Process Labs posted by jt on August 12, 2001 at 12:55:17:

Thanks, jt.

I think that Standard Process discovered some basic truths way back when they were started. Those basic truths are still true.

HOWEVER, having said that, I contend that there are still basic truths to be discovered. Standard Process's "truth" is not the "be all and end all". They have secumbed to the same thing that they have complained about from the beginning about why their "truth" was (and still is) resisted by some conventional nutritional practitioners: Once SP had something that definitely worked, they were (and still are) very resistant to expanding on it.

If you are aware of Kirlian Photography (as a representation of the living "aura") you know that there is a big difference between "natural nutrients" and synthetic ones.

However, humans have now begun to discover ways of enhancing those "natural nutrients" so that they serve as nutriceuticals and not just nutritional molecules.

We all still have a lot to learn. Let us hope that never ceases!

Hope this helps.

Walt

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• Re: Standard Process Labs (Archive in supplements.) jt 20:14:24 8/17/01 (1)
  • there is some evidence... LT 22:30:43 8/17/01 (0)

In Reply to: Stadard Process Labs posted by jt on August 12, 2001 at 12:55:17:

I do know that pratitioners of Contact Reflex Analysis use Standard Process supplements. Their whole foods concept is good, and what led me to only take only whole food multi vitamins, even though I no longer use SP products.

In Reply to: Re: Standard Process Labs (Archive in supplements.) posted by Walt Stoll on August 14, 2001 at 08:06:32:

Thanks for the reply. As a follow up, I remember that Pearson and Shaw used to warn against the Natural Soy derived mixed tocopherols, saying that they contained estrogens. Any thoughts on this? I see on the Life Extension website that they are now advocating taking Gamma Tocopherol with the Alpha because of some concerns.

I would like to up my E intake, but I only seem to muscle test well on Standard Porcess and on the Soy mixed tocopherols. Not on the Dry Alpha Tocopherol capsules.

Follow Ups:

• there is some evidence... LT 22:30:43 8/17/01 (0)

In Reply to: Re: Standard Process Labs (Archive in supplements.) posted by jt on August 17, 2001 at 20:14:24:

that you can do more harm by supplementing only with the alpha, rather than the mixed, as the alpha can displace the other forms in the body, which is not good.

When I spoke to an internist (for my dog), he said to give her the complete form.