My friend that I take care of with Transverse Myelitis
(also has arthritis)...and is in wheelchair - anyway he sometimes gets small purple patches and he wondered if it is related to the liver. He had three small ones on the back of the hand today - he claims they weren't there a few days ago. To me, they kind of look like the skin looks when you pinch it but I know it's not that...do you need more information? Thanks!
In Reply to: purple patches on skin posted by Barbara Dusel on July 01, 1998 at 19:32:30:
Dear Barbara,
My guess is that these "small purple patches" fade over a week or so into bluish, then greenish, then yellowish patches (a little larger with each change) till they fade away completely.
Please let me know if I am right.
These are leaks in fragile blood vessels and the purple patches are just little pools of blood. The unfortunate thing is that you are seeing them there because the skin is thin & it is easy to see, Actually, this is happening in every organ of his body--it is just hidden from view.
He could help this by taking 3 grams of pure bioflavinoids daily (3 divided doses) for a few months. He probably wouldn't see any new ones within a week or 2 of starting this. After a few months, I would cut the dose in 1/3 for financial reasons only. This dose would be perfectly safe to take forever but why take more than needed?
There is a trick to this. The labling of bioflavinoids is tricky. ALL of them are shamfully diluted. You need the healthfood store owner to help you read the lable. Tell her/him that you need 3 grams of the real stuff and ask how much of the stuff in THIS bottle he would have to take to get that much.
NOW, if I have not accurately described the progression of these spots, the above will do nothing about it & his doc should see them.
Walt
Hi Dr Stoll,
I am currently taking 6 grams of time released vitamin C divided in the morning,afternoon,and at night.I wake up
at 5AM ,then about 9am I am totally exhausted and have to take a nap.I am wondering if I take two doses,3g
in the morning and 3g in the afternoon and skip the evening dose that I will be better off.What are your suggestions on dosing vitamin C ?
Thank you
carmen sox57@aol,com
In Reply to: Vitamin C Dosing posted by Carmen on July 12, 1998 at 12:16:52:
Dear Carmen,
First of all, I wouldn't be taking the form of vitamin C you are taking. I would take 2 grams of ESTERIFIED vitamin C at each of the times you are already taking the timed release regular C.
Next, remember that vitamin C is NOT a panacea. I would be surprised if ANY vitamin C would resolve the symptoms you mentioned AND I would bet that was just a very short list of the symptoms you have.
If you are willing to share ALL of your symptoms, here on the BB, for the edification & learning of the other participants on the BB, I would be happy to suggest other things for you to learn. Let me know.
Walt
I have been taking 8 grams of ester C daily. I started taking this after reading your book. The doctor im seeing
seems to think im fighting some kind of viral infection.
He cant do anything for me....I suffer from constant
low grade fevers, leggs are hot and twitch often. Will
the ester c be harmful over time? Thanks no where to turn!!
In Reply to: ester c posted by Tom A. on July 14, 1998 at 10:45:18:
Dear Tom,
Wish I were there. We would get this straightened out in no time. However, I am not. The next best thing would be to find you someone competent in your area. Let me know what part of the country you are from & I may know someone in that area personally. In this time of so rapidly advancing knowledge of the medicine of the 21st century, there is a very wide difference in the knowledge of even the most advanced practitioners.
The ester C will not hurt you. However, if this WERE some "viral infection" it would have helped you already. You know how we MDs are----if we have no idea what is going on one of our favorite things is to blame it on a virus (sigh).
Walt
In Reply to: Re: ester c posted by Walt Stoll on July 15, 1998 at 10:06:27:
I live in the Detroit metro area. I have an appointment with a homeopathic doctor in Romeo MI. Named Gregory Kruszewski. Im also seeing a chiropractor twice a week. Please help if you know anyone else...........
thanks
In Reply to: Re: ester c posted by Tom A. on July 15, 1998 at 16:14:33:
Dear Tom,
Perhaps Doc Dave can help here.
MY contacts would be in the MD/DO area and you could find them by calling (800) 286-6913.
You could also get a list of the best Naturopaths by calling
(206) 298-0126.
Walt
Dear Dr. Stoll,
I've been hearing alot about this supposedly "stop the clock" product and thought I'd check your bulletin board to see if there was any information posted about it. I was surprised to see there wasn't because it's all I've been hearing about.
I'm hearing reports that taking HGH can slow the aging process by 20% and reverse some of the aging that's already taken place. Some of the claims are:
- tighter, sleeker, smoother skin
- enhanced energy levels
- decreases in body fat
- increase in lean body mass
- strengthened immune system
- deeper and sounder sleep
- sharper memory and concentraion
- stronger bones
- improved exercise capacity
- higher threshold in coping with stress
- improved heart and kidney function
- reduced appetite
- youthful feeling of joy in living
- increases libido
- in some instances, darkens graying hair back to it's original color
- reverses degeneration of vision
- stops joint pain
etc...Just about anything that has to do with the aging process, it's supposed to help. I've heard that the Human Growth Hormone is the body's messenger for repair and maintenance and that it declines after age 30.
I'm quite confused about a couple of things. I've been checking out different brands of this supplement. One says that their brand acts to only stimulate the body's natural HGH hormone release and others say that theirs is not a stimulator. I gather from the latter that they are referring to a maybe synthetic type replacement or bbon name tops vac2 what?
Now, in my thinking, which may be wrong, I'm wondering if our natural "human growth hormone" is pre-determined. In other words, do we eventually "run out" of this hormone over a period of time. You know, like a woman has a "set" amount of eggs from the time she's born to menopause. In turn, if we take anything that causes extra release of HGH which may temporarily give us youthful benefits but when we run out, would we age quickly and all of a sudden?
I certainly do not want to take this without finding this out, for sure!
I do know that HGH injections have been given to children with growing problems and that too much of it has side effects ranging from giganticism to deepening of the voice. Also, I've heard that some movie stars used to receive injections at $12,000 per year. Nevertheless, I'm hearing that the supplements in question do not have these side effects. Which leads back to my confusion about why some say their brand is only a stimulator and some say it is not a stimulator - the actual hormone or synthetic one? or what?
Anyway, I'd like to know your thoughts about this new anti-aging therapy and, in your opinion, is it harmful or helpful. If what is claimed is true, then wouldn't this be grand?
Sincerely,
Anna
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In Reply to: HGH - Human Growth Hormone posted by Anna on July 14, 1998 at 14:54:31:
I believe you may be facing a dictonomy Anna, regarding
those who take HGH to correct degenerative body conditions
severe or mild, and those who take it purely for cosmetic
reasons.
Your quote needs to be addressed first:
"... If what is claimed is true, then wouldn't this be grand?"
Not necessarily. For how long will you take this miracle?
The rest of your life? If the producer sees that you are
hooked will he or she raise the price?
Does it have addictive qualities?
Will it damage organs over the long term?
Most people (myself included) take HGH to control a life-
threaten condition. While those other side benefits such as
improved eyesight, increased libido, and redarkening of hair
are all present, It may simply be a matter of the body
running at an optimum state after so long at a suboptimal
state. In other words what seems miraculous is simply what
ordinary health REALLY is! I don't mean this sub-par
low-level not-really-sick-but-not-healthy-either that most
of us walking around call healthy. I mean real Honest-To-God
healthy.
It's been rather a long time since I've been 25, so it's
hard to relate to that state, but Pro hGH is bringing me
there. The problem? I don't want to go there via the Pro hGH
transportation system.
See the post regarding the 5 Rites (or just click on the
link) for a different way to gain those attributes you
desire.
-Greg
In Reply to: HGH - Human Growth Hormone posted by Anna on July 14, 1998 at 14:54:31:
Dear Anna,
I have made comments about this in the past. They are probably listed under the "whoops factor" in the archives.
I made several responses to this yesterday and specifically mentioned HGF in some of those.
I hope you will take a look at them & then write again if you still have questions. It would save me typing.
Also, you might be interested to know that I am 62 and would not take it fo myself.
Walt
I lost weight after 2 1/2 weeks 8 lbs, lost my appetite for fattening foods. My sister started on flax seed oil also and she claims her appetite decreased , for the bad foods. You go to the bathroom a lot for the first 2 weeks, then it returns to normal. People that I've heard from that don't eliminate but once a week have found that it has helped them. but I'm a firm beliver that if you give up eating a lot of meat, especially red meat the elimination process is a lot more normal.
Dr. Stoll: my last order to a mail order co. could not supply Multinutrients from Ethical Nutrients as before.
For new readers, EN is the same copany as Metagenics that
you recommend highly. I called EN from the no. on the bottle and got through after I remembered it was in CA.
She said they are reformulating the product and new one
will be out sometime in August. They will have a special
Multinutrient for women. My question to you is: what is
the appropriate amount of iron for men, women, and post-
menopausal women daily. Thanks. Martha
In Reply to: Fe posted by martha on July 17, 1998 at 15:56:05:
Dear Martha,
That question can only be answered by your primary medical practitioner (or Naturopath, etc.) since it varies from person to person. What Ethical Nutrients has done is come up with a good average for the sex & age.
I have just had my wife & I (age 60) switch from the formula without iron to the one WITH.
Walt
In Reply to: Fe posted by martha on July 17, 1998 at 15:56:05:
I'm amazed how Dr. Stoll stays up with so many of these questions. It's fun to drop in and pick out something to respond to without having to do the wonderful job of following all the posts as he does. Maybe here I can add a little useful information. Maybe he's already said it somewhere on this prolific site. Anyway...
Blindly suggesting some standardized iron intake even when the recommendations are broken down by age and sex is an extremely difficult task. At least it is difficult to do so and be accurate. Iron has a realtively narrow optimum range unlike so many other nutrients. Additionally, there are no natural excretion mechanisms in our bodies for excess iron. Gross toxicity symptoms are easy enough to identify if you know what to look for, but identifying subclinical toxicity is not so simple.
Once again the problem is not how much iron do you need but where is it needed, when should it be supplemented (e.g. iron fluctuates diurnally in relation to Cortisol) and how do you absorb it. A significant criticism hurled by opponents of nutritional supplementation (a valid one) is that the complexity of human biochemistry is much more than adding quantities of nutrients to supply specific supposed deficiencies.
One example relates here. The liver is a storage depot for iron and simply increasing vitamin C can often release sufficent iron for our immediate needs. It is quite possible to supplement iron to the point that it has some potential hazard to health, even when the dosage is low.
I'm not suggesting that we avoid iron supplementation altogether, just that we need to talk about the potential dangers and make informed decisions. If you do some study on the biochemical interactions in regard to iron in some detail, you will probably know more about iron metabolism than most healthcare professionals. I am suggesting that it is important enough for you to do just that.
I do suggest periodic monitoring of serum ferritin for adults. It is not the best means of determining iron stores, but the best readily available and practical means. Serum iron is a poor monitor. Iron may be deficient despite normal serum iron levels. In children even serum ferritin is not a reasonably accurate measure.
My next suggestion is seeking the input of a QUALIFIED clinical nutritionist who knows a bit about YOU. There are numerous variables that should be considered in a recommendation for iron supplementation.
If it sounds like I'm "making a mountain out of a molehill" it is because you just simply haven't been taught that this is critical. In all likelihood, neither has your healthcare provider. Remember we are still in the "dark ages" regarding good science about nutritional supplementation.
I love this field and sharing information excites me. I often catch myself holding back because patients just don't want to hear the complexities of human nutrtional biochemistry and the results on our physiology. I guess I'll rein myself in now, too, I've gone on long enough. If anything I say is to be remembered, remember that nutritional supplementation is far more involved than we are collectively realizing and individually we need to delve more deeply into the subject for our welfare and the welfare of our children. It will be time well spent.
Best wishes in your search for better health,
Dr. B.
http://HealthChoice.net
http://DirectLab.com
In Reply to: Re: Fe (long) posted by Dr. B. on July 19, 1998 at 13:05:06:
Dear Dr B.,
I REALLY appreciate your taking the time to put this valuable information on the BB. The way I have been "keeping up with the demand" is by being very brief in my answers and trying to open the doors for the person as to where they can FIND more information.
Another way is by good samaritans like you giving the additional information that I do not have the time to type. BLESS YOU! You did a wonderful job!
Namaste` Walt
Hi
I have head of having sub-clinical symptoms of scurvy
such as fatigue,joint pains,depression,gum bleeding, ect.
If given enough vitamin C how long, roughly, do these
symptoms go away?
Thank You
Carmen
In Reply to: Acute Scurvy posted by Carmen on July 20, 1998 at 10:09:38:
Dear Carmen,
Almost immediate improvement is noted. Total cure should be effected within a month or so.
Knowledgable physicians now know that cancer, arthritis, atherosclerosis, and a whole myriad of other degenerative diseases are also relative vitamin C deficiency diseases. it is just that scurvy is the one that is terminal when not even 40 milligrams a day are ingested.
In this country, under the average environmental stressors, the average human needs at least 5000 milligrams a day to prevent these newly discovered vitamin C deficiency conditions.
Interesting that the AMA is now pushing to prevent any pharmaceutical company from making any tablet of vitamin C larger than 100 milligrams. NO WAY do they want people preventing these "bread & butter" diseases without the doc getting a cut by at least writing a prescription.
Do not underestimate the power of the largest lobbying budget in this country (AMA) for the past 50 years.
Walt
Which is better and why? I have always taken the food based over the counter type. I thought I kept up to date on the bad ones such as lead contaminated calcium supplements. I have recently gone to a DO and he said the food based ones are a joke. What do you think!!!! Thank You.
In Reply to: Pharmacuetical based supplements vs. food based supplements posted by Dale on July 20, 1998 at 13:02:52:
Dear Dale,
I guess I am not sure what you mean about "food based".
What I DO know is that "Natural" vitamins are more effective that "artificial" ones. Even the AMA came out with a statement about that (this year about vitamin E).
Let me know more about what you are talking about & perhaps I will have more information.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Pharmacuetical based supplements vs. food based supplements posted by Walt Stoll on July 21, 1998 at 11:21:50:
Hello again Dr. Stoll,
I apologize for missing this answer to my post.
I recently went to a DO to answer some of my questions about my health:MVP,nutrition( I am on ER4YT and am type O) and Premarin vs. natural remedies such as soy products, Progestocreme,etc. He didn't think the ER4YT was for everyone, but since I felt it was working for me that it was ok. This Doctor has been into the Holistic approach for 20yrs. He looked at the vitamins I brought in so he could see exactly what I was taking. He said these "food-based" over the counter supplements are a joke. He told me that what he reccomends is the pharmacuetical based ones. I am not sure he is the Doctor for me at this point. I have only seen him once. In making my decision I am doing my own investigating. That is why I am here and why I asked the question. You gave me a place to start with your book reccomendations and I thank you for that.
I will keep you posted!
Sincerely,
Dale
In Reply to: Re: Pharmacuetical based supplements vs. food based supplements posted by Dale on July 22, 1998 at 23:55:03:
Dear Dale,
If I am understanding this right, you are referring to the "food-based" as being natural & the others as being synthetic.
If THAT is the case, I don't care how many years this doc has been into "holistic" thinking, he hasn't learned very much. That is one of the problems in this time of rapidly increasing knowledge, there are a lot of professionals out there who are jumping on the bandwagon who know nothing about what they are doing.
If I am missing the point, here, I would appreciate being straightened out.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Pharmacuetical based supplements vs. food based supplements posted by Walat Stoll on July 23, 1998 at 15:39:45:
Hello Dr. Stoll,
I beleive he means natural vs. synthetic which has me in doubt about him being right for me.
The brands and type are Ortho Molecular Products--Alpha Base without iron--mutinutient supplement.
Metagenics--Fem Osteo HRT(nutritional support for women on hormone replacement therapy)--dietary supplement.
Metagenics--Mag Glycinate--highly absorbable Magnesium
Allergy Researh Group--buffered Vitamin C powder.
Have you heard of these? Do you know anything about these companies?
He has me taking them 3 times a day. They seem pretty high potentcy wise. They all are supposed to be highly absorbable. He says less than 3 times daily won't do any good. I am going for a blood test on Monday. He may add iron. I also am getting a test to check my gallbladder( 6 mos. ago my regular doctor found a small polyp on my gallbladder) Hopefully it disappeared! My regular doctor says he has seen them disappear. That is why I am questioning the Premarin since one of the side effects can be gallbladder problems.
I have ordered your book(4)and anxiously awaiting its arrival.
Thanks for having this website and board!!!!
Sincerely,
Dale
In Reply to: Re: Pharmacuetical based supplements vs. food based supplements posted by Dale on July 24, 1998 at 09:34:12:
Dear Dale,
Your present doc is right about one thing: some nutrients, given in pharmacological doses, cannot be obtained from natural sources for any price short of the cost of a new car (grin). What bothers me is his statement that the natural sources are all hogwash. Humans evolved on this planet using the natural sources.
Your ordering my book is a good start since an overall understanding (more complete than your doc's) is your best tool to be sure you are getting the best advice. Be sure to use the resources in the back once you have digested my book since you will want to go deeper into what you learn about yourself.
Walt
please send more info regarding vitain E tablets vs gel caps...I believe the tab are of a more pure nature than gel.
I was told that the gel has other additives...Is this True?
Thank You
In Reply to: Re: vitamin tablets vs. capsules posted by Edward Ragosta on July 21, 1998 at 00:46:59:
Dear Edward,
There are advantages & disadvantages to each form. Actually, the best, to MY knowledge is not either of these forms but a liquid form of mixed tocopherols that comes in a dropper bottle. If you are interested in this one, call (800) 522-6382 for information.
Short of that, you would need to contact the actual manufacturer of any product you are questioning because each manufacturer handles each product differently. There is not yet enough standardization in the field to have any idea any other way.
Let us know what you learn.
Walt
We plan to publish the ability for various cell types to
reduce lipoic acid to dihydrolipoic acid.
John E. Biaglow, Ph.D.
Professor and Director
Radiation Oncology
University of Pennsylvania
In Reply to: Re: Greg, what do you think about magnets? posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 1998 at 08:53:34:
Hi Walt,
It's taken me a couple of days to get to look up your message on another computer--I'm having trouble with Netscape on mine. I liked what you said about the bodymind. It's unfathomably amazing. What sort of product do you mean by mineral salt? I heard a corny infomercial about a man named Dr. M. Ted Morter on tv who said some interesting things. He said that laughter is alkalizing and anger acidifying, and that some people's bodies use ammonia to alkalize. He seemed to think you could smell ammonia in cancer wards. I probably sound like I fall for every yokel
I come across--I have to investigate anything healthwise that sounds interesting. He has some books out on amazon.com.
I seem to be doing well inspite of the saggy guts (cystocele)--I'm walking daily like a religion and cutting through procrastination to get out there and "move" with life in general. I get to go to the urologist and see if he has anything lucid to say--I'm doing it to see what his "take" is. It's supposed to be for a test to see how much bladder leakage I have. Thanks--Mary
P.S. If I really get with it maybe I can help out here some referring people to books they could look into for help. I appreciate the help that others here give.
In Reply to: Electromagnetism and the Bodymind posted by Mary Jackson on July 28, 1998 at 19:42:22:
A site about Dr. Morter: http://www.morterhealthsystem.com/
In Reply to: Electromagnetism and the Bodymind posted by Mary Jackson on July 28, 1998 at 19:42:22:
Hi, Mary.
Dr Morter is right.
Sea salt has had its trace minerals mostly removed. So far as I can tell, this is just so it will look white & not "scare" people just learning about health. Mineral salt looks "dirty" since it has all of the trace minerals still in there. It is mined from about 10,000 feet deep--down where the residual salt from ancient oceans exist.
It tastes just like regular salt. The only thing is that, because of the trace minerals, you have to tap the salt shaker (once) on a hard surface to get it to pour. To me, a small inconvenience for the benefits.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Electromagnetism and the Bodymind posted by Walt Stoll on July 29, 1998 at 11:27:36:
Dear Walt,
Oh....so that is the sea salt I should have bought, the strange clumpy looking salt with all the little colored specs in it?
What are the benefits from these minerals???? I have heard others say this is VERY healing and helps the body be more balanced. Is this true??
When I was at Nature's, a natural food store here in Oregon (I feel so very lucky to have a food store like this nearby) I saw white sea salt and then sea salt from Italy that had colored specs in it. I didn't know which to buy and wondered if the natural minerals in the speckled salt would be more healthy.
So you are recommending I buy the natural mineral salt from the sea? I think we will buy this on the weekend.
By the way, I wish all food stores were like this one. We are able to buy meats and eggs free of hormones, organic flours, soy products, even organic catsup, tomato sauce, condiments...etc. They carry fabulous organic produce, spices, and just about everything you would buy from the regular market...even healthier snacks made of organic whole ingredients and free of hydrogenated oils.
They even carry natural soaps, cleaning products and cosmetics. I LOVE the cosmetics they sell. My skin is clearing up partly from using them (and adding the essential oils) I even bought a more natural hair dye to cover my grey hair coming in. The other ones made my scalp itch but this one did not at all.
This store is becoming so successful here in Portland, Oregon that they may start building more elsewhere. I hope they become a huge chain so everyone can buy organic food. They also sell supplements and my Naturopaths tell me to go buy products from there as part of my prescription.
It was EASY for our family to completely switch to organic and natural food. We are all feeling better and it TASTES so much better. My husband and son don't want to eat at McDonalds anymore...yippeee!
Thanks again
peace and love,
pamela
I am currently studying Enzymes and Enzyme Therapies by Anthony Cichoke and am fascinated by the unending possiblities enzymes hold in our quest for healing and health maintenance. Could you please recommend any enzyme therapists or sources for high quality enzymes which could be used therapeautically? Thanks
Is it safe to take amino acid supplements with high blood pressure medication (Zestril)? I'm under a lot of stress and am having trouble sleeping.
Thanks
John