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Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption?

Posted by Nutmeg on July 24, 2002 at 16:13:28:

I picked up an old copy of Dr. Sherry Rogers' Total Wellness newsletter lately. There is a article in it about correcting magnesium deficiency to treat back spasms. In it she says that many people, herself included, were deficient in manganese as well as magnesium, and no amount of magnesium would relieve the spasms until they took one 20-mg capsule of manganese picolinate per day. She says the manganese allows the magnesium to work. Anyone heard this before?

Another item of note from the same article, she mentions that the best form of magnesium that most closely resembles IV magnesium is "the liquid form, ARG 18% Magnesium Chloride Solution, one tsp. four times a day in a big 8 oz. glass of water." She agrees that it tastes terrible, but dilution helps, and she says relief from back pain can be expected withing one to two weeks, depending on other causes. Anyone with experience or comments?

One more thing...she says the second most common remedy for severe back pain (she's had success with hundreds of patients) is nightshade allergy. She suggests eliminating all obvious & hidden sources of nightshade foods for 3 months to relieve severe pain. You should know by the end of the first month whether it is working. Nightshade foods include tomatoes, all peppers, eggplant, potatoes, tobacco, chili, cayenne (sorry Vince F!!), paprika, crushed red pepper, curry, mayonnaise, fried foods that may have been cooked in oil where potatoes have been fried, and modified vegetable starch (which might be in bread, gravy, or sauces).

Nutmeg



Re: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption?

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 2002 at 09:05:19:

In Reply to: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption? posted by Nutmeg on July 24, 2002 at 16:13:28:

Hi, Nutmeg.

Sherry is pretty sharp and I do not doubt her early results.

However, without including SR, her results will be temporary (at most a year or so).

By the way, her nightshade observation is not an allergy but a natural result of the solanine in all nightshades. Solanine has a direct effect upon bracing.

I was unaware of the manganese/magnesium connection. However ALL the trace minerals (70+ of them) work together.

Walt



Re: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption?

Posted by R. on July 25, 2002 at 09:18:10:

In Reply to: Re: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption? posted by Walt Stoll on July 25, 2002 at 09:05:19:

Dr. Stoll, you said, "Solanine has a direct effect upon bracing." What do you mean by that? Does solanine create lots of stress in the body or what?



Solanine and muscle spasticity. Archive in arthritis.

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 26, 2002 at 07:45:32:

In Reply to: Re: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption? posted by R. on July 25, 2002 at 09:18:10:

Hi, R.

I thought everyone knew this one :o).

Solanine is a potent poison that kills by causing muscles to be so spastic that the person cannot breathe (EXTREME bracing). This is the opposite of curare which discharges the neuromuscular chemicals that produce contraction and so the person dies of flaccidity--the inability to breathe because the muscles cannot contract.

The tolerance to this poison is genetically determined.

The average person in this country eats enough solanine (via nightshade plants) in a year to kill a horse. We only survive because we eat it over a year's time and our liver can detoxify it that fast.

However, it still causes a little bracing in everybody and a lot in some people. This is why a significant % of arthritics improve by stopping nightshade intake.

Hope this is making sense.

Namaste`

Walt



Sherry Rogers' newsletter

Posted by EllieK on July 26, 2002 at 10:49:41:

In Reply to: Magnesium deficiency & back pain--does manganese help absorption? posted by Nutmeg on July 24, 2002 at 16:13:28:

Hi Nutmeg.
I've read her book and find it very helpful. Didn't know about the newsletter. Does she still do one (you mentioned an "old" copy), and where did you find it?
Thanks!
EllieK



Re: Sherry Rogers' newsletter

Posted by Nutmeg on July 26, 2002 at 12:29:07:

In Reply to: Sherry Rogers' newsletter posted by EllieK on July 26, 2002 at 10:49:41:

Hi Ellie,

This was the only issue in the doctor's reading rack. It's dated December 1998. I'm guessing he had it there for the article on chronic back pain. He's not my doctor--I just go there to see the visiting rolfer who uses one of the treatment rooms in his office when he's in town.

Here's the information:

Dr. Sherry A. Rogers' Total Wellness 12 issues for $39.95. Prestige Publishing, P.O. Box 3068, Syracuse, NY 13220 1-800-846-6687, 315-455-7862, Fax 315-454-8119, email: orders@prestigepublishing.com

They should know whether she still publishes a newsletter, or maybe you can find a website for her.

Good luck.
Nutmeg



Re: Solanine and muscle spasticity. Archive in arthritis.

Posted by
Liz on July 26, 2002 at 15:01:54:

In Reply to: Solanine and muscle spasticity. Archive in arthritis. posted by Walt Stoll on July 26, 2002 at 07:45:32:

Many years ago, I was suffering from severe and disabling headaches together with muscle spasms in the cervical spine. Late one evening, I was watching a TV show in Cincinnati. It was a talk show in which several rheumatologists and Dr. Stoll were discussing arthritis. Dr. Stoll was plainly saying that nightshade foods can be the cause of arthritis pain and the rheumatologists were doing everything but sniggering in his face. But - I knew he was correct, as I had read this in a book and it worked for me - much to my husband's surprise. I called the academy of medicine in Lexington and discovered Dr. Stoll had a clinic. I became a patient. Listen to what he says - he knows more about more things than any other doctor I have ever known.



Re: Sherry Rogers' newsletter (Archive in references.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 2002 at 06:44:57:

In Reply to: Re: Sherry Rogers' newsletter posted by Nutmeg on July 26, 2002 at 12:29:07:

Thanks, Nutmeg.

Namaste`

Walt

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Re: Solanine and muscle spasticity. Archive in arthritis. TESTIMONIAL.

Posted by Walt Stoll on July 27, 2002 at 07:37:17:

In Reply to: Re: Solanine and muscle spasticity. Archive in arthritis. posted by Liz on July 26, 2002 at 15:01:54:

Thanks, Liz! Good to hear from you again.

If you recall, they had sent representatives from DC to pooh-pooh my contention that diet and relaxation had anything to do with arthritis. There was an FDA representative and 2 from the Arthritis Foundation there.

I wonder what they are saying now (20 years later)?

Very sad that the very people who have set themselves as the experts are the last to know. How much does the Arthritis Foundation collect in donations from an unsuspecting public every year???

Namaste`

Walt

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