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Posted by teresa on August 16, 2003 at 21:11:22:

can the tmj heal itself in time, even if the xray shows bone on bone on both sides and one side is dislocated?



Re: tmj

Posted by dd on August 16, 2003 at 23:33:56:

In Reply to: tmj posted by teresa on August 16, 2003 at 21:11:22:

I don't know if it rids itself on its own, but I have had
problems with this for 20 years from violin playing
(holding the vioiin under chin, bringing head forward
and down, and then pushing on the jaw in order to
secure the instrument) My dentist, married to a fellow
violinist, showed me stretches. They are a bit bizarre,
but work. This is hard to explain, but I'll try.

Try to stretch the muscles under the tongue, neck , jaw,
throat etc..by pulling your tongue backwards inside your
mouth, and downwards, towards the throat. (slightly
towards one side of the mouth, and for the second
stretch, towards the other side of the mouth). At the
same time open your mouth very slowy. If done
correctly, you should feel many muscles being
stretched, including those in your lower jaw, the
muscles behind the back teeth (jaw), throat and neck

Another one is to push the tongue downward (keeping
mouth closed this time, again tongue to one side, and
then the other side), and then raise your head slowly
and feel the stretch in the neck and in the underside of
chin.

You can feel a lot of blood flow into the gums, teeth and
jaw when these stretches are done properly. It has
relieved me greatly.

Good luck.
dd

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Re: tmj

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 17, 2003 at 07:46:58:

In Reply to: tmj posted by teresa on August 16, 2003 at 21:11:22:

Hi, Theresa.

Boy! Very far advanced! Listen to DD for the best I would know. It is too bad that no one told you what was causing this 20 years ago.

Walt



Re: tmj

Posted by dd on August 17, 2003 at 14:53:54:

In Reply to: Re: tmj posted by Walt Stoll on August 17, 2003 at 07:46:58:

No kidding. TMJ is just one problem that was not dealt
with back then. Here is a sad scenario:

When I started feeling problems with my body from
violin playing, I started talking about it openly with my
colleagues. They just looked at me like I was nuts and
basically said nothing in return. I didn't understand why
until someone finally said, "You know, you should
really just keep quiet about this. We all have problems,
but we don't talk about this stuff because everyone
knows that it will affect the opinion of whether or not you
are a good player:" I couldn't believe it. This was their
concern?? They would rather suffer than just come
forward and figure out ways to get on with it?

Here we are, 15 years later, and finally the ship floats.
Symphonies have massage, chiro, alexander,
feldenchrist, etc.. available to the players with
permanent jobs....thank God. Most musicians have
some sort of regular treatments, not unlike athletes,
since we have continuous repetitive motions. There is
hope Walt!!

I do have to say, in this particular case, the medical
profession really helped to actually open up this door.
So many people were going to the docs wanting help.
We have a whole medical group (working with holistic
professionals) in the Bay Area working with just
musicians injuries. There is supposedly a 75% injury
rate amongst musicians. It is very difficult to get to a
place where you can be free, take in visual knowledge
and directions (all the directions on the page of music
which are many all at once) through the eyes going to
the brain and then to have to execute the proper
physical motions to create....all in the correct
nano-second, spitting out a beautiful and free
performance, keeping your body clear. We all call that
place, "the zone." It is really a high to get there. It is like
being inside the resonance of the chords, which is why
music is considered healing I am sure. It is too bad
that the people executing the music don't necessarily
heal while peforming. :) It is getting more difficult to
get to the zone because these days, for monetary
reasons, we don't get enough rehersal to know the
music thoroughly, so you are always a bit on edge.
Make a big mistake, you can kiss your job goodbye, no
lie. Nice and healthy!

What choices huh? Live in fear until the damn breaks,
or be a rebel and try to save the damn from breaking.

:)
dd



Re: tmj (Archive in philosophy.)

Posted by Walt Stoll on August 18, 2003 at 07:20:06:

In Reply to: Re: tmj posted by dd on August 17, 2003 at 14:53:54:

Thanks, DD.

I really appreciate your thinking.

Walt

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nmiFascinating information, DD. Sorry to hear it, but fascinating nonetheless.

Posted by Sally on August 19, 2003 at 20:36:17:

In Reply to: Re: tmj posted by dd on August 17, 2003 at 14:53:54:

nmi

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