Vaccinations historical posts February 1998

Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 20:18:25:

I am writing a multi-part series to inform people of this BB about the dangers involved with vaccinations. We have all heard the benefits but not the dangers. Informed consent is a vital part of any medical practice but unfortunately parents do not have all the information presented to them. My stance is that it is a parents choice to vaccinate or not to. This is America, not Nazi Germany and not the Republic of China. Our basic morals do not say that a few may die or suffer for the many. This was the mentality of the Nazis when they performed horrible medical testing and erradication of the handicaped and sick. NOT to mention other acts that were pure evil.

What a parent needs is ALL the information. Power to know what questions to ask their Dr. And the confidence to make decisions based on what they feel is the best for the children that THEY are responsible for.

To start in the middle where we are today is too difficult so I will start with the past so that you can see the groundwork that is laid and how we have come to where we are today.
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We have all seen the positive information about the smallpox vaccine. Some say it has been irradicated by the vaccine but the data says it was irradicated DESPITE of the vaccine.

SMALLPOX-As sanitation increased in the mid-1800's nearly every contagious disease-(plaure, cholera, dysentary, measles, scalret fever, whooping cough) declined in number and severity. This included smallpox, until vaccination
programs were enforced.

"Before England passed a vaccination law in 1853, the highest death rate for any two year period was only 2,000, even during the most severe epidemics. (Jenner himself admitted that smallpox was relatively unknown before he began his vaccinations). After more than fifteen years of
mandatory vaccinations, in 1870 and 1871 alone more thatn 23,000 people died from the disease. In Germany, over 124,000 people died from the disease. ALL had been vaccinated. In Japan, nearly 29,000 people died in just seven years under a stringent compulsory vaccination and re-vaccination program. Compare these devastating figures to Australia, where the government terminated compulsory vaccinations when two children died from the shots. As a result, smallpox virtually disappeared in that country (three cases in fifteen years)."

Undoctored hospital records show that about 90 percent of all smallpox cases occurred after the individual was vaccinated. "Deaths certified as due to vaccination...have several times outnumbered those from smallpox"-Dr. Millard, Medical Officer of Health.

There is a direct relationship between the percentage of babies vaccinated and the number of smallpox deaths: the higher the percentage, the greater the fatlaities. In other words, deaths from smallpox tumbled only after people refused the shots.

Note: James Phipps, the eight year old boy initially vaccinated by Jenner in 1796 and Jenner's own son, both being re-vaccinated more that once, died of TB. A condition that researchers have linked to the smallpox vaccine.

Most of this info is from NVIC News, (National Vaccine InformationCenter, Vienna , VA). More information about NVIC is available at their web site www.909shot.com
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"Give no deadly medicine to anyone"-Hippocrates


If you give a healthy person drugs it will make them sick. If you give a sick person drugs it will make them......?
This is the dilemma and why information and truth are all we have to help us make informed decisions. Get educated. You don't have to be a Dr. to know whats right for you and your family.



Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox.

Posted by Nancy on February 22, 1998 at 21:00:21:

In Reply to: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox. posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 20:18:25:

Dr. Dave

How about polio and flu shots?

Nancy


Vaccination Series:Part 2, Polio vaccine

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 21:13:29:

POLIO-90% of all those (unvaccinated) exposed to the polio virus produce no symptoms, even under epidemic conditions..M. Burnett and D. White, The Natural History of Infectious Disease (New York, NY: Cambridge University Press, 1972), p. 16 Polio is virtually nonexixtent in the United States today; however there is no credible evidence that the vaccine caused polio to disappear...R. Mendelson MD, How To Raise A Healthy Child..In Spite of Your Doctor(Chicago: Contemporary Books, 1984), p. 228
From 1923 to 1953, before the Salk killed virus vaccine was introduced, the polio death rate in the U.S. and England had already declined on its own by 47% and 55%, respectively. The introduction did nothing to speed up the decline of the disease...Michael Alderson, International Mortality Statistics (Washington, DC:Facts on File, 1981), pp. 177-178 In fact the number of reported cases of polio following mass inoculations with the killed virus vaccine was significantly greater than before mass inoculations, and may have more than doubled in the US as a whole.
Massachusetts alone went from 273 cases from August 30 1953 to August 1954, to 2027 cases in the year from Aug 30 1954 to Aug 30 1954...H Allen, Don't Get Stuck: The Case Against Vaccinations..( Oldsmar, FL: Natural Hygiene Press, 1985), p 146 The CDC reports that between 1973 and 1983 87% of
the Polio cases were caused by the vaccine itself. More recently from 1980 thru 1989, EVERY case of polio in the US was caused by the vaccine(excluding 5 imported cases). And three of the five imported cases had been vaccinated
against the disease...PM Strebel, et al "Epidemiology of Poliomyelitis in the US..." Clinical Infectious Diseases, (CDC, February 1992) pp 568-79 Skewing the reported effectiveness was necessary. Figures from the Los
Angeles Health Index: Morbidity and Mortality, Reportable Diseases reveals this.

sample months reported cases of polio reported cases of
July 1955 aceptic meningitis
(before 273 50
vaccine)

Sept 1966
(after 5 256
vaccine)
There was a reclacification of what constituted full blown polio. As a result the "apparent" decrease in polio showed up elsewhere.
Quotes from Dr. Jonas Salk..(The polio vaccine discoveror) "When you inoculate children with a plio vaccine
you don't sleep well for two or three weeks" he also testified that the live virus vaccine (used almost exclusivly in the US since 1961) was " the principal if not sole cause" of all reported polio cases in the US since
1961...Washington Post, (Sept 24, 1976).

I am not saying you shouldn't inject this vaccine into your baby. I'm just saying informed decisions are the key. As we progress I will give those who choose to do so, some things to know about minimizing the risk to some degree.

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothin had happened" Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill.

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Table Clarification.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 21:20:21:

In Reply to: Vaccination Series:Part 2, Polio vaccine posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 21:13:29:

The "table" I put up did not come out like it should have. To better explain it, it should read that they found 273 cases of polio and 50 cases of asceptic meningitis before the vaccine. After the vaccine and reclassification as to what constituted polio there were 5 cases of polio but 256 cases of asceptic meningitis. This show how data presented such as 273 before vaccine and 5 after is not always as "clean" and accurate as they make it out to be.


Re: Vaccination Series:Part 2, Polio vaccine

Posted by Terrie on February 22, 1998 at 21:36:57:

In Reply to: Vaccination Series:Part 2, Polio vaccine posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 21:13:29:

Dear Dave,

Thank goodness that my son, who I had vaccinated, is healthy and wonderful. (But, thank goodness that he is my ONLY one!) Just to let you all know on the best of days lately, I hurt too much after work to get on the computer. But I got a call this afternoon from my boss/friend that for the next 2-3 weeks we would be traveling alot.

So, I may not be here but I will read EVERYTHING when I get back.

Take Care,
T


Vaccination Series: Part 3, Flu Shots.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 22:19:39:

I am going to make this subject short and sweet. All of the following information is from MD's or places that promote flu shots. Their own data is enough to convince most that the flu shot is not all it's cracked up to be. First of all they have to decide from the multitudes of flu strains which will be in the area the next "flu season". This decision is made 9 months in advance. 9 MONTHS!

"Even when it closely matches the prevailing strains, it may prevent infection in only 70 to 90 percent of healthy adults under 65--and in a mere 30 to 40 percent of older people."

[Fhew doctors believe that the flu shot is a necessity for everyone. "If you're generally in good health and you aren't prone to colds and upper respiratory tract infections, then the flu shot is optional," says Mario Romagnoli, M.D., an infectious disease specialist and assistant professor of clinical medicine at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons in New York City.]

"But they're still made by growing flu viruses in eggs, so people who are allergic to eggs should not be vaccinated." Now how in the heck am I supposed to know if I am allergic to flu viruses in eggs?

With the cost of a flu shot ranging from $7-$20 there are plenty of reasons to keep you coming back every year. If half of the people in a town of 10,000 get a $10 flu shot there will be $50,000 dollars of revenue to the, let's just say 10, places that you can recieve them. That's $5,000 per year in revenue at each Dr's office. Would you tell a "little white lie" for $5,000 every year? That's $200,000 over a 40 year career.

So, even the "honest" doctors will tell you that only the people who really need a flu shot are those who are prone to colds and upper respiratory tract infections(the elderly). Yet by their own admission it may only prevent infection 30-40% of the time and that is IF the right strains are chosen 9 months in advance. Now, we all know of people who got a flu shot and were sick for a few days. So why would you do this to an elderly person or anyone who has a depressed immune ability? Does any of this make sense?

Again, it's your body. This is the USA. You can make your own decisions. Just be sure that you make INFORMED decisions. Your not an idiot and your Dr. is not GOD.

Natural recovery from mild illnesses strengthens the bodies immune system. Artificial resistance makes the body dependant on future artificial means and prevents the natural strengthening of the bodies immune system.




Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox.

Posted by Nancy on February 23, 1998 at 12:41:08:

In Reply to: Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox. posted by Nancy on February 22, 1998 at 21:00:21:

Dr Dave

I obviously got ahead of you. You've answered my question, and I'm sure you're right. I got the flu that wasn't included in the shot this year. Of course,I took the shot at my own free will. I've had the flu so many times in the past and have a fear of it because it takes me so long to recover from it.

Nancy


Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 23, 1998 at 13:10:04:

In Reply to: Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox. posted by Nancy on February 23, 1998 at 12:41:08:

With the changes you are making in your life you should see a dramatic decrease in the frequency, duration, and severity of illnesses such as influenza(flu).

Glad I answered your qestion.

Dave


Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 23, 1998 at 21:34:51:

PERTUSSIS-A disease that is rarely fatal(1). From 1900 to 1935, in the US and England, before the pertussis vaccine was introduced, the death rate from perussis had already declined by 79% and 82% respectively(2). Studies
indicate that the effectiveness of the pertussis vaccine may be as low as 40-45%(3). Further evidence indicates that immunity is not sustained. Susceptability to pertussis 12 years after full vaccination may be as high as 95%(4) The US Department of Health and Human Services reported in the
state of Washington in 1984 of 560 patients, with pertussis, aged seven months to six years, with known vaccination status, 46 percent had received vaccine protection. This is much less time than 12 years. Crack open a World Book Encyclopedia and read what this vaccine is "stabalized" in.
Formaldehyde, a carcinogen. Each dose of DPT also contains a mercury derivative and aluminum. Both considered toxic to humans.

A 1981 study showed that one out of every two hundred children who received the full DPT series suffered sever reactions including shock-collapse and convulsions(5). Studies also show that children die at a rate eight times greater than normal within three days after getting the DPT
shot(6).

In a study of 103 children who died of SIDS, Dr. William Torch, of the University of Nevada School of Medicine at Reno, found that 70% of these children had been vaccinated with the DPT shot within three weeks of their
death. 26% of which had occured within three days of the shot.

1. R. Moskowitz MD, "Immunizations: The Other Side" Mothering(spring 1984) p. 36
2. M. Alderson, International Mortality Statistics(Washington, DC:Facts on
File, 1981), pp. 177-178.
3. S. A. Halperin "Persistence of Pertussis in an Immunized Population:
Resuslts of the Nova Scotia Inhanced Pertussis Surveillance Program,"
Journal of Pediatrics(Nov. 1989), pp.686-693.
4. M. E. Pichichero, et al., "Diptheria-Pertussis-Tetnus Vaccine
Reactions(Vienna, VA., National Vaccine Information Center 1989), p. 3
5. "Nature and the Rates of Adverse Reactions Associated with DPT and DT
Immunizations...," Pediactrics, Volume 68, No. 5 (Nov. 1981), pp. 650-659.
6. J. M. Fine and L. C. Chen, "Confounding in studies of adverse reactions
to vaccines," American Journal of Epidemiology, 136, (1992), pp. 121-35.


"The 'p' part of the old DPT vaccine is so higly toxic to the human brain that the whole cell pertussis vaccine should be immediately withdrawn from the market." The Vaccine Reaction, November 97'

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At the same location you can order "THE CONSUMER'S GUIDE TO CHILDHOOD VACCINES" by Fisher which is an excellent guide for parents about the contraversial issue. Including sections on what questions to ask your Dr. and which children should not be vaccinated at certain times. Even if you ARE planning to vaccinate, this $9, 90 page book will equip you with the knowledge to make the vaccinations as safe as possible by reducing the risk and reducing the reaction if it does occur.

An upcoming part of the series will discuss the T in DPT which is the tetanus shot.


Re: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox.

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 24, 1998 at 13:37:17:

In Reply to: Vaccination Series: Part 1, Intro and Smallpox. posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 22, 1998 at 20:18:25:

Dear Doc Dave,

I agree with everything you have said here. Someday I will share with you the in-depth research my centre did on this subject.

If I had my children all over again, I would do anything I could to immunize them Homeopathically and fight the school system forever for my right to prevent them from conventional immunizations.

Once I learned about wellness, I stopped getting "flu shots" (20+ years ago). I used to get colds several times a year and the flu at least once (occupational hazard for docs). Since I learned about vitamin C and wellness I have not had either for more than 20 years. These conditions are a lot more of an indicatioin of how healthy the immune system is than it is of exposure to the virus.

Kudos! Walt



Re: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis.

Posted by Nancy on February 24, 1998 at 18:20:19:

In Reply to: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis. posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 23, 1998 at 21:34:51:

Dr Dave

So am I correct to assume that you are against all immunization shots? Maybe my mother was on to something when I was growing up. She was a Christian Scientist so my sister and I never got any of those shots. We were protected by law because of our religion, but ordinarily a school will not admit children who do not have these shots. We were the only ones in the school who didn't have those ugly scars on our arms. When the oral polio vaccine came out, my father made us take that in a sugar cube, though, as I remember. Is that bad, too?

Nancy


Re: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis.

Posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 24, 1998 at 23:15:36:

In Reply to: Re: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis. posted by Nancy on February 24, 1998 at 18:20:19:

I am against MADATORY laws that MAKE people get those shots. There is an extreme amount of pressure on parents to do this and not equal time given to inform them of the dangers.

Regarding the Polio vaccine I would point you to the Vaccination Series, Part 2 and let you be the judge. I personally would not get my child vaccinated for something that only show up in those who get it from the vaccination or from visiting 3rd world countries. Especially not in a child.

Educated decisions are the key.

And since you probably are wondering, this is the list of injections I have had.
1 tetanus shot at age 4 after running a nail through my foot.
2 shots that had something to do with bad poison ivy around age 7-9.
1 shot of penicillin while in college for a sore throat that would clear up on Friday but be back by Monday because of my ignorance to stop drinking every weekend ;)

So as you can see the vaccinations/immunizations never made it into my body.

If I were headed off to war in some third world country where certain diseases run rampant I would seriously consider being the guy at the front of the line provided my immune system was tip top at the time of injection. And I wouldn't get them all on the same day.

Again, the key for me is the MANDATORY that precludes vaccination. There is too much suppressed evidence regarding these vaccines for parents to make a rational choice let alone threatening them into doing it.

Post WWII trials showed the immorality of the utalitarian ideals that the forced death of the few to help the many is completely barbaric.

You only have to sit and listen to a mother tell how her child was happy and healthy until they recieved the DPT shot, while they hold their child who is having his 4th seziure of the day, so many times before you realize the the choice should be up to those who are going to have to hold them if things go wrong.

"When it happens to you or your child, the risks are 100%"



Re: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis.

Posted by Walt Stoll on February 25, 1998 at 15:10:19:

In Reply to: Re: Vaccination Series: Part 4, DPT shot, specifically the P, pertussis. posted by David Ferguson, D.C. on February 24, 1998 at 23:15:36:

Dear Doc Dave,

I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to do this series. It is only by the awakening of an educated public that these wrongs will finally be righted.

I agree that the biggest problem is the compulsory nature of the vaccination program. People are capable of an informed choice if they are provided all the facts.

The AMA has promoted the fiction that only we MDs are capable of understanding things like this. "Trust us (and pay our bill) and we will do your thinking for you." I have found that caring parents know a lot more about this than my MD colleagues who have been brainwashed into mindlessly supporting the paradigm of the monopoly.

MDs are human too. It is a LOT easier to let others do our thinking for us.

Namaste` Walt



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