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ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Bill [202.2450] on April 05, 2006 at 14:31:33:

I have used ester-c for years (3-4 grams/day) with good results, even twarting off a cold or two. Lately, I have been getting sick every time my son gets sick. I feel the symptoms of a cold and will take up to 15-20 grams of ester-c over 24 hrs and it does NOTHING! Any suggestions?



Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 05, 2006 at 14:50:52:

In Reply to: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Bill [202.2450] on April 05, 2006 at 14:31:33:

Bill,

Ester-c or any supplement can only do so much. If your lymph system is over loaded or ( in your case ) your immune system gets run down from stress ( son being sick and you not getting enough rest )the ester-c is not as effective. Try improving your faimly's diet to more fruits and vegtables. Work on the stress and maybe and a green food product. I like Klamath Blue Green Algae. Maybe all will get less colds.

Silver Fox!



Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on April 05, 2006 at 15:00:09:

In Reply to: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Bill [202.2450] on April 05, 2006 at 14:31:33:

you may have developed a food intolerance- gluten(wheat,oats,rye, barley, and barley malt) or dairy are two likely possibilities.Experiment with going off each for a while.

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Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by
AlQuitit [80.56] on April 05, 2006 at 17:01:39:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 05, 2006 at 14:50:52:


According to the folks at vitamincfoundation.org -Ester C is calcium ascorbate, and Calcium is not a good form of vitamin c, because large quantities can act as "cement" to further clog ateries,-if one is predisposed, and taking calcium supplements, or not, whatever the case may be.
A better c is ascorbic acid, and you can get it online 3lbs for $40 from NOW, and cheaper elsewhere.
I personally beleive that flavonoids from dried orange and lemon peel, ground to powder, and taken 2-1 ratio to vit c enhances the absorption and effect. I take lots of flavs with mine, Green tea extr. gingko, rutin, quercitin, shiitake mush. I do believe I am experiencing a difference.
I am



Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by PeterB [1975.23] on April 05, 2006 at 21:03:49:

In Reply to: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Bill [202.2450] on April 05, 2006 at 14:31:33:

Personally, I don't take EsterC because I choose to avoid manufactured nutrients that aren't a perfect analog to naturally occuring ones. I choose ascorbic acid. I certainly would not take esterC in such high doses. You might want to consider ocassional use of N-acetylcysteine (3000mg daily in divided doses when feeling ill), which raises white blood cell count and is effective at preventing upper respiratory infection. Add 4-6 tbsp of Elderberry syrup in divided doses throughout the day and you'll do better than with any form of vitamin C by itself. If you take echinacea, choose the angustifolia species to combat an existing viral infection; the purpea form is only effective as a preventive.

PeterB

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Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 06, 2006 at 07:20:41:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 05, 2006 at 14:50:52:

Thanks, Steve.

My idea exactly. It is a lot more work but practicing the 3LS is the best way to go. The Ester C was never more than a healthy crutch anyhow.

Walt

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Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 06, 2006 at 08:49:52:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by AlQuitit [80.56] on April 05, 2006 at 17:01:39:

Too much of any supplement is not good for you. The body must process everything you put on or into it. Supplements must pass through the liver and to much puts a burden on it and upsets the balance of the body.

Silver Fox!

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Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by NO NO NO NO NO [4809.2485] on April 06, 2006 at 11:47:56:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by AlQuitit [80.56] on April 05, 2006 at 17:01:39:

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

ascorbic acid has CLEARLY BEEN SHOWN TO BE CARCINOGENIC ESPECIALLY IN LARGE DOSAGE.

anyone here familiar with Linus Pauling and his wife? they were the early proponents of Vita-C mega dosing and told everyone to take HUGE ascorbic acid supplements...

GUESS WHAT FOLKS, in case you did not know:

Linus and wife BOTH DIED of cancer and cancer rates at the time they died had MORE than tripled/trebled.

do you get the message here?



Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Carol [1362.1351] on April 06, 2006 at 21:41:34:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 05, 2006 at 14:50:52:

Hi Silver Fox, I just found this article about Klamath blue green algae. It was interesting but I haven't formed an opinion on it yet. I did notice when I took Rexall brand algae, it made me feel funny.



Where's the study?

Posted by Colin [1813.2485] on April 07, 2006 at 03:30:35:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by NO NO NO NO NO [4809.2485] on April 06, 2006 at 11:47:56:

I've read of an in-vitro study which seemed to indicate that Vitamin C caused DNA damage, but I've heard of no in-vivo study indicating increased incidence of cancer. Do you have a citation for such a study?

-Colin

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Take A & D from fish liver oil

Posted by Jean [5452.20] on April 07, 2006 at 08:13:46:

In Reply to: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Bill [202.2450] on April 05, 2006 at 14:31:33:

A & D especially from fish liver oil are even better at preventing colds and flu that vitamin C.

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Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by Steve [3019.1399] on April 07, 2006 at 14:20:45:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by Carol [1362.1351] on April 06, 2006 at 21:41:34:

Carol,

I have found there are two camps, those for and those opposed. I have been trying different brands of Green Foods and to date, this is the best product I have found.

Best how? Gives me a higher level of energy though the whole day. No afternoon blahs's. Helps keeps BM's regular. I only take 1 cap a day. Dossage is 2 to 4. I find I don't need that much.

I feel green foods are great supplements and there are some very goods ones out there. Only you can decide for yourself.

Silver Fox!

P.S. Personally I would drink fresh made wheat grass juice, but its a pain in the you know what to fool with. Anytime I'm by a juice bar, I buy a shot.

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Complete works of Dr. Linus Pauling-Re: ester-c not working anymore!!!

Posted by ~CT [3862.2485] on April 07, 2006 at 21:25:39:

In Reply to: Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by NO NO NO NO NO [4809.2485] on April 06, 2006 at 11:47:56:

This is a collection of his notes.




Complete works of Dr. Linus Pauling-Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! Archive

Posted by Walt Stoll [93.1889] on April 08, 2006 at 08:33:09:

In Reply to: Complete works of Dr. Linus Pauling-Re: ester-c not working anymore!!! posted by ~CT [3862.2485] on April 07, 2006 at 21:25:39:

Thanks, CT.

Walt

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