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There seems to be some scare going on to get the flu shot this year.
Should we get it and are you?
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
I don't get them. I rarely get bad colds and not sure if
I had the flu but after becoming sensitive to so many things
I thought the shot might do me in. I have older friends and
they were both hospitalized a few yrs ago after geting it
and the husband died and the wife has been sick ever since.
Don't know if the shot caused it but it seems likely.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
nmi
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
I wouldn't. Just eat healthy, avoid sugar, and keep a positive attitude.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
It will not keep you from getting the flu anyway! That is what they are saying down here. It is of another kind of flu, but you have to make up your on mind no one can tell you what to do. But I sure wouldn't get the shot I never get it and I haven't had the flu in over 20 years. It seems like when the vaccanies come out then the flu starts here looks like it.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
The decision to have the flu shot is one that needs to be considered with other information. Let me explain the flu shot. Long before the flu season begins, health science professionals study the strains of the flu that are present and were common in Asian populations the year before. This is because Asia boasts the highest populations so there is a very good probability that the strains that proliferate in that region will continue to be viable throughout the year and make its was to other geographical regions. However, the strains selected to be included in the innoculations are ONLY predictions based upon statistics and the statistical variability of the strain because all living things (although, a virus is not considered a true organism) must mutate in order to survive if it encounters adverse conditions. This is ALWAYS to be expected. Now, these predictions have to be made very early in the year and the formulation of the innoculations must begin long beforfe flu season. Thus, there is plenty of time for other forms to become more viable. However, statistically speaking the flu vaccination will on most occasions contain at least one form of the influenza virus which most people will come into contact with. You see, these are predictions based on statistics so there is no guarantee and there never has been a guarantee, which either many people have forgotten or never known to begin with. Now, it is also possible that the sheer existence of the flu vaccine causes the strains to be forced to mutate in order to survive. Thus, there is no guarantee at all that the flu shot will help you and for the sake of others it may or may not be a good idea to get the flu shot there are two possible hypotheses about this. However, in the case of a flu form that is particularly dangerous it may be more important to get the flu shot. If you have elderly individuals around you it may be good for them. If you have school aged children there is a huge likelihood that they will bring the virus home. Also, if you live in an area that is a tourist destination during the winters it may be more important to get it. There is NO definitive answer to this question and anyone who tells you otherwise only knows half the story. Please, don't fall into the trap that the scientists f---ed up and produced an inappropriate innoculation, this is a moot or irrelevant argument if you know the methods behind the formulation of the vaccine. However, this is not to say that you will or will not be protected. That the statistical probability of the flu shot being impotent among certain populations MAY have fallen outside at least one standard deviation of the mean.
In Reply to: The Flu Shot Explained posted by Informative on November 27, 2003 at 12:37:25:
the state of our immune system before exposure to any viral agent is the real key. Those with healthy immunology will resist flu better than those getting vaccinations, but you won't hear this from public health agencies because it contradicts "managed care" for the masses.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
No. Like you I've not had flu or cold for 10 years at least and think my immunity is pretty good. Well, a cold maybe - a cold starts to come on, then disappears in 24 hours.
Never had a flu shot and won't now. If I DO get the flu, then "this too shall pass" as the familiar saying goes. :)
Should you? Don't think so but I liked "Informative"'s very, uh, informative post to help size up a rational decision. I do think the state of one's own immune system is a very big factor. Of course, no one has a perfect immune system.
I do know one person who died from the flu. She was in her 40s and a hairdresser. Very sad. She seemed fit & healthy, to ME. Possibly, her immunity was down due to the toxic chemicals she dealt with for years on end, and/or she picked up a particularly virulent strain, but this is pure speculation.
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by peterb on November 27, 2003 at 16:30:55:
Thanks. Public dialog about this (flu shot) is interesting; I fall into the same trap you just mentioned.
The question is always framed in this way (not in these exact words) "On a scale of 1 to 10 how much will the flu shot help me to avoid the flu?" Many words and TV newsbites fly back and forth over how much the flu shot helps, or doesn't help. This CAN serve as a smokescreen to distract you from the other question that has to be figured, "What else will this do to me and might it make me worse in other ways?"
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by Jan S. on November 27, 2003 at 17:12:42:
Not that I think that other question was a bad one (will you get the flu shot - yes or no), it was a good one! OK, off the board for now!
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
Hi Maria
Just to let you know I am also "Maria" on this board, so you may want to think about altering your name so others do not get confused, or if you like I can change my name.
Thanks
Maria
In Reply to: Re: Have the flu shot yes or no (No) posted by Jan S. on November 27, 2003 at 16:34:07:
Hi Jan S.
I have a very strong immune system. I think that's part of the reason for never catching, colds or viruses.
But sometimes my immune system is too strong, and it overreaccts to harmless substances such as pollen etc.
So, I suffer from hayfever/allergies during the springtime, but luckily it doesn't long. Maybe a couple of weeks.
It feels "foreign" to me when I see so many other people during winter battling colds and flus, and there Iam, as strong and healthy as anything right throughout the winter.
If I take sickies from work, it's awful to have to lie and say I had a cold, when I haven't one had for so long.
(cough, cough) hee hee
Maria
In Reply to: Re: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria to Maria on November 27, 2003 at 17:48:07:
I get the flu shot every year. It doesn't help much though.
In Reply to: Re: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Vince F on November 27, 2003 at 07:02:35:
Try cayenne pepper instead.
In Reply to: Re: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 20:09:44:
Hi Maria
I will change my name, if you want to continue posting under my screen name, that way no one gets confused as to whose posting what.
Maria
In Reply to: Vince, Re: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 20:10:55:
I do..))
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
I stopped geting colds when I started taking a multi vitamin
when I felt run down. They would come a few days after I
started to feel beat from doing too much. I have been
having minor sinus problems and took one tonite and they
seem to have cleared up.
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by peterb on November 27, 2003 at 16:30:55:
Yes, it is true that the state of our immune systems is a key but that has NEVER been denied by conventional medicine by any means. That is why conventional medicine has only ever encouraged those that have compromised or underdeveloped immune systems such as small children, the elderly and those with progressive or chronic illnesses be vaccinated. Believe me it is not lost on public health officials that the over innoculation of the public against the flu will only stimulate the mutation of the influenza virus. We need individuals to contract the flu virus in order to protect the rest of the human race from a strengthened mutation of the flu virus in the same way that capitalistic countries need there to always be unemployment in the world so the rest of us can make money and live happily. It is unfortunate and I am not condoning a utilitarian ethic but it is the most efficient means of making it work in the short run which really is all most people give a s--t about. Yes, it is best to be healthy and not get the flu, but there is no guarantee that the healthiest immune system will resist the flu either.
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by Jan S. on November 27, 2003 at 17:12:42:
I have a condition that causes me to have to avoid contracting the flu at all costs. I have to get the flu shot period. Otherwise, I am completely healthy. The only thing that I have to worry about is getting the full blown virus. I do not mind the controversy and I understand both sides of the equation but people need to remember that there are some individuals that NEED it despite the debates.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
Hi, Maria.
I am not getting it and am recommending that my family not get it.
Walt
In Reply to: The Flu Shot Explained posted by Informative on November 27, 2003 at 12:37:25:
Thanks, Informative.
Good summary!
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by You are half correct. on November 27, 2003 at 22:24:24:
Thanks, PeterB.
My position which has worked for me for 25+ years.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: The Flu Shot Explained posted by Informative on November 27, 2003 at 22:27:37:
How can the shot keep a person from getting the flu, I isn't even the kind of strain that is going around. I have posted this many times, I live in Texas and the doctors are admitting this here, because there are so many getting the flu anyway here so they are saying this because so many are still getting it.
In Reply to: For imformative! posted by The flu shot doesn't work? on November 28, 2003 at 09:42:47:
You obviously didn't read my post or misunderstand what you did read. Please, return to my original post under this thread so you might come to understand more about the situation. There are many types of flu that are currently going around so you need to not listen to your idiotic media quite as much as you seem to be.
In Reply to: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by Maria on November 27, 2003 at 06:55:18:
I haven't had the flu shot in I don't know how many years...I haven't had the flu for almost 16 years, I'm not going to start getting them either. I don't get sick much thank god, I only get one or two colds all depending on who's sick around me, otherwise...no flu shot for me ;-)
In Reply to: Re: Have the flu shot yes or no posted by I don't on November 28, 2003 at 22:50:44:
SIX YEARS AGO 5 OF US GOT IT AT WORK AND WE ALL GOT THE FLU FROM IT.
STAN
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