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Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"?

Posted by peterb [17.1249] on July 15, 2004 at 08:28:04:

The following excerpt, except for my bracketed text in the final paragraph, was from the Journal of Neoscience.

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What is Reflexivity? Identity and reality are reflexive. This concept and the observer/observed dynamic have been illustrated over and over again. In a given perceptual frame (what we call the lateral frame) identity and reality reflect one another. In the transformation frame, or trans-lateral frame, this is not true.

The arguments for this are as follows: to identify one’s self one must compare to an exterior reality. What we think is real in the exterior world, we then use to define what is real in the interior world. Neither of these positions or views is provable (Godel.) Instead we find, we stipulate, or choose various assumptions upon which to base our life. These assumptions at different levels make up our thought system or the perceptual glasses we wear. To change these glasses we must make new choices through a process of moving deeper within.

The perceptual glasses metaphor is a helpful way of illustrating this. Suppose the lens of our glasses is colored blue. If we shine a light through the lens, this projects an image to the world. We could call this our self-image or our identity. The light coming back to us is what we perceive to be the exterior reality. However in this situation both the projection and the perception of the exterior reality are colored blue. Our thought structures also work this way. By using mathematical proofs and drawing on observations made in several fields such as quantum physics and systems science, this principle has been demonstrated repeatedly. The observer and the observed are inextricably tied together in a reflection. Like an image in a mirror, they are looking at one another. How does one then escape a particular reflection? This is what transformation is all about.

One must move out of the reflection to move to another reality. This is what is meant by the term traveling across realities. Its important to note here that what we think we know is what we call “rational” or real or true. So moving out of it by seeking transformation is always an "irrational" act. It is something akin to jumping off the proverbial cliff. Thought in a given perceptual frame is connected, no matter how loosely. We perceive certain causal relationships among elements of our reality. To die to this understanding is to turn our whole world upside down; it is letting go of these causal understandings. History has shown time and time again that the greatest discoveries have been made when individuals let go of how what they thought they knew and moved into another place. Recall those such as Galileo, Columbus, Einstein, [Stoll], and there is no question about it — this act takes courage. Courage is a key signpost on the path to transformation.

Thanks again for your mission and work, Walt!



Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"?

Posted by Steve [135.4] on July 15, 2004 at 08:40:54:

In Reply to: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? posted by peterb [17.1249] on July 15, 2004 at 08:28:04:

Pete,

Don't we all jump off a cliff with the choices ( good or bad ) we make? If you don't decide to follow a healthy life style then the choice is made for you, sickness and death..

Silver Fox!



Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"?

Posted by peterb [17.1249] on July 15, 2004 at 10:15:34:

In Reply to: Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? posted by Steve [135.4] on July 15, 2004 at 08:40:54:

I see your point Steve, but I think the idea here is to recognize the power of social consensus to inhibit the discovery process. In order to learn new ways of thinking, we have to learn to pursue wellness in the face of criticism from the existing paradigm and its supporters. I refer to FDA, AMA, ADA, EPA, on and on...

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Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? Archive.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 16, 2004 at 06:47:46:

In Reply to: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? posted by peterb [17.1249] on July 15, 2004 at 08:28:04:

Thanks, PeterB.

Listen to Steve.

In my opinion, the only thing serious wellness requires is a desire to be self-responsible for one's health. Learning will spring from that and then a plethora of options will spring from that garden.

Walt



Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? Archive.

Posted by peterb [17.1249] on July 16, 2004 at 07:31:11:

In Reply to: Re: Does Wellness Require "Jumping off a Cliff"? Archive. posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on July 16, 2004 at 06:47:46:

I agree with that, Walt. Probably my attempt to link the message of the article to "alternative medicine" was a little obscure. The "jumping off the cliff" (in this context) is a positive step of discovery, the process of learning about wellness in the face of the crisis-care system that only teaches dependence on synthetic drugs and organ removal. That is why when I read the article I thought of you and other alternative practicioners. It only "feels" like jumping off a cliff for those locked into the AMA monopoly.

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