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Posted by
Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

Dear Sr. Stoll and anyone else who can share some thoughts,

I just read about a man in my local paper who was training for a triathalon. He was 41 yrs. old. During biking, he didn't feel well, and stopped for a rest. Someone called the rescue squad because he was in distress, and he died of a major heart attack later at the hospital. How can someone so seemingly healthy just die like that? Frankly, it scares me to think about it, and concerns me that it could happen to me. Does anyone else share these thoughts? By the way, I wanted to report my progress. Since starting the whole foods diet, and relaxation, my anxiety attacks have diminished in strength, my detoxification rashes are almost gone, and I have dropped 25 pounds. I have a long way to go. I will not believe that my body won't heal itself and that it is too late for me. I am so thankful for all the invaluable education I have received here. Thank you so much.

Julie




Water & Salt

Posted by Lurch [1574.1228] on August 06, 2004 at 06:24:44:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:


The first thing I think of is someone with depleted or insufficient electrolytes (namely salt). IMHO, low salt or no salt diets are dangerous and could be the reason why some people die suddenly. Other causes could be protein (amino acid) imbalances from eating vegetarian or lopsided diets, and eating bad fats like trans fats.

People are admitted into hospitals and given IV electrolytes, which contain mostly water & salt. It's a better idea to get water & salt at home.


Interesting Facts About Salt

Higher Salt Intake Tied to Longevity

Debate over the health effects of dietary salt continues, with a new study suggesting that those who eat lots of salt live longer than those who avoid it. Researchers discovered that those 25% of study subjects consuming the lowest amounts of dietary salt actually had a higher risk of death (over 23 deaths per 1,000 person-years) over the study period compared with the 24% who consumed the highest amounts of salt (just 19 deaths per 1,000 person-years). But the researchers stress that any connections between salt and longevity need to “be considered in the total dietary context.” For example, they explain that high salt intake may simply be a “marker” for specific types of diets that might in a much broader sense positively influence overall longevity.

The Lancet, March 14, 1998; 351:781-785


Salt Intake is Vital

Salt is a vital substance for the survival of all living creatures, particularly humans. Water and salt regulate the water content of the body. Water itself regulates the water content of the interior of the cell by working its way into all of the cells it reaches. It has to get there to cleanse and extract the toxic wastes of cell metabolisms. Salt forces some water to stay outside the cells. It balances the amount of water that stays outside the cells. There are two oceans of water in the body; one ocean is held inside the cells of the body, and the other ocean is held outside the cells. Good health depends on a most delicate balance between the volume of these oceans, and this balance is achieved by salt - unrefined salt.

Salt has many other functions than just regulating the water content of the body. Here are some of the more vital functions of salt in the body:





Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on August 06, 2004 at 06:34:14:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

I had a cousin die of a heart atack at age 42. It was from a condition of excess iron in the blood, which he didn't know he had. The treatment for this condition is bloodletting and donating blood 3 times a year is a simple way to accomplish this without paying some medical fee for the service. When you go to donate blood, they test your iron level for free, so you can get feedback on whether you run high yourself.
A neighbor died at 44. She had gone skiing for the weekend and had a seizure on the ski slope and went into a coma. It was found that she had had several small strokes in the past without realizing it. Skiing can bring something like this on for a couple of reasons-
-when people go skiing, they try to get 'value' out of their lift ticket, so they keep going all day even though they aren't used to that level of exercise
-they often don't drink sufficient water for their activity level and ALTITUDE level- thick blood from lack of water increases risk of heart attack or stroke if conditions in the body are already leaning that way
-altitude sickness-thinner air- people who don't live at high altitude, but visit the mountains for skiing or hiking don't reralize their bodies are getting less oxygen (the air is thinner) and they don't adjust to it in a weekend as people living there adjust to it.
Anyway, there are lots of factorsunder your control- many of the people who die early have lifestyles that have compromised their immune system-smoking,drugs,diets with lots of sugar (interferes with white blood cells doing their job), excess refined carbs as WAY too big a proportion of their diet, stress (some people even exercise in a competitive or stringent way that causes them stress, whereas exercise should help relieve stress), pollution, even vaccines can compromise the immune system, so people who get a yearly flu shot or travel a lot and get shots for that can be adding to damage to their immune system.
There is a LOT under your control.
Since the guy isn't related to you, you probably don't have the genetic factors as he- remember-some people who get into an exercise regime are doing so because of family histories of disease that they are trying to overcome.
-Jim Fixx (an author on running) died too early, but he had an underlying health problem he was trying to address through running.
-another author, Barry Sears( he wrote the zone) has had male relatives die of heart attacks at about age 53- his life's work on diet is about trying to avoid that fate himself, but his chances of dying early may be greater than the general population's.
If your parents didn't die early and you improve your diet and lifestyle over theirs, you have a good chance of a long life.

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Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by ANN [1003.516] on August 06, 2004 at 06:34:16:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

I had a cousin die of a heart atack at age 42. It was from a condition of excess iron in the blood, which he didn't know he had. The treatment for this condition is bloodletting and donating blood 3 times a year is a simple way to accomplish this without paying some medical fee for the service. When you go to donate blood, they test your iron level for free, so you can get feedback on whether you run high yourself.
A neighbor died at 44. She had gone skiing for the weekend and had a seizure on the ski slope and went into a coma. It was found that she had had several small strokes in the past without realizing it. Skiing can bring something like this on for a couple of reasons-
-when people go skiing, they try to get 'value' out of their lift ticket, so they keep going all day even though they aren't used to that level of exercise
-they often don't drink sufficient water for their activity level and ALTITUDE level- thick blood from lack of water increases risk of heart attack or stroke if conditions in the body are already leaning that way
-altitude sickness-thinner air- people who don't live at high altitude, but visit the mountains for skiing or hiking don't reralize their bodies are getting less oxygen (the air is thinner) and they don't adjust to it in a weekend as people living there adjust to it.
Anyway, there are lots of factorsunder your control- many of the people who die early have lifestyles that have compromised their immune system-smoking,drugs,diets with lots of sugar (interferes with white blood cells doing their job), excess refined carbs as WAY too big a proportion of their diet, stress (some people even exercise in a competitive or stringent way that causes them stress, whereas exercise should help relieve stress), pollution, even vaccines can compromise the immune system, so people who get a yearly flu shot or travel a lot and get shots for that can be adding to damage to their immune system.
There is a LOT under your control.
Since the guy isn't related to you, you probably don't have the genetic factors as he- remember-some people who get into an exercise regime are doing so because of family histories of disease that they are trying to overcome.
-Jim Fixx (an author on running) died too early, but he had an underlying health problem he was trying to address through running.
-another author, Barry Sears( he wrote the zone) has had male relatives die of heart attacks at about age 53- his life's work on diet is about trying to avoid that fate himself, but his chances of dying early may be greater than the general population's.
If your parents didn't die early and you improve your diet and lifestyle over theirs, you have a good chance of a long life.



Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by DrDave [1460.109] on August 06, 2004 at 07:27:13:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

You'd think someone who can participate in Triathalons would be the picture of health. It says nothing about their genetic predisposition, their diet or their vascualr health.

The greatest producer of oxidants in the body is breathing. Imagine what that kind of strenuous exercising does in that regard.

Oxidants are very damaging to the body tissues. Lance Armstrong is only 33 years old. He looks 43. It's because of the oxidation due to so much cycling.

Think of endurance athletes as race cars. Fast now but they don't last as along. Moderate exercise is better. I'd rather just be a Toyota Camry than an Indy Car.



Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 06, 2004 at 08:18:08:

In Reply to: Re: sudden heart attack posted by DrDave [1460.109] on August 06, 2004 at 07:27:13:

Didn't Jim Fixx the runner die of an attack and Grace Kelly's brother, John was a rower and died of one.

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Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 06, 2004 at 08:19:04:

In Reply to: Re: sudden heart attack posted by ANN [1003.516] on August 06, 2004 at 06:34:16:

I heard that tea blocks the absorption of iron.



Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by steve [135.4] on August 06, 2004 at 08:22:12:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

Julie,

Don't you know that after 25 we are all on borowed time..All you can do is your best to stay healthy..

Silver Fox!

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Re: Water & Salt

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 06, 2004 at 08:33:37:

In Reply to: Water & Salt posted by Lurch [1574.1228] on August 06, 2004 at 06:24:44:

Interesting piece about salt. After my dad had a massive heart attack a few mo after cuting it out, and I had to take it Just to function in the heat, back in the early 80's when they started to warn about salt, I looked into why we had our problems.

You need enough salt and potassium to make your body function and with too little salt, the blood vessles constrict from Renin that is released to keep the BP up and That restricts blood flow. They say the linings get lumpy.

I believe I had kidney damage and I was dumping salt which was giving me a heat prostration, Very lethargic and confused. Taking salt and in minutes, I was working hard with sweat pouring off me. What was interesting, when I remembered that they Used to supply salt tabs where people worked in high heat, I loaded a sandwich with it and I used to use a good bit normally and get complaints, usually from females who usually retain fluids are are SENSITIVE to salt, The Extra salt on the food Didn't do a think. It probably gets bound up with the food and Might have helped me but much slower. I just threw some in my mouth and washed it down.

After that I used a LOT of salt tabs. Couldn't find the Cheap Morton's ones anymore after the warnings in the news and had to pay 50X as much buying Thermo Tabs that had other minerals that the kidneys regulate. I started to carry a salt shaker in the car and tiny packs from take out restaurants.

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Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 06, 2004 at 08:49:36:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

Many things can happen and would be good to know what the cause was. John Ritter had a leaky aorta.

I never worried about exterting myself, when I wanted to. I knew I was in excellent health but I never did the things I did to try to get there since I just liked doing physical things and feeling like I got a workout from every physical activity I was doing so many times did things the hard way to make them like exercize. Then I didn't have to do anything special to get it.

I lost weight by cuting calories and making even simple things harder and like an exercize. No matter what I did, even bending over to pick things up. I bent over as far as I could, like I would be touching my palms when touching toes.

Being affraid to do something isn't good since the tension
will cause problems and Maybe Cause what you feared. Doing exercizes you enjoy to the level that you want to or feels good and NOT what someone says that you should, is probably safer. I used to push to get in shape to play tennis each spring and my lungs would burn while hiting and geting to balls in practice and I would stop when they did and I wondered if I was damaging something so I would rest and recover before I did it again. May have been tearing or straining my lungs but I would get my wind back in a short time and have No problems exerting myself to extremes when playing. I wanted NO limits on my abilities and if I did damage I was willing to accept it since I wouldn't have been happy not doing what I did to reach the level I wanted to.

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Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by Ron [1540.81] on August 06, 2004 at 10:39:13:

In Reply to: Re: sudden heart attack posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 06, 2004 at 08:19:04:

Hi Vince,

Tea can be a diuretic... That can affect absorbtion.

Ron

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Re: sudden heart attack

Posted by Michele [15.15] on August 06, 2004 at 15:16:16:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

Just because he was "training" doesn't mean he was healthy.

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Re: sudden heart attack Wellness TESTIMONIAL.

Posted by Walt Stoll [9.8] on August 07, 2004 at 08:46:02:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

Thanks, Julie.

Most coronaries are silent. Even the most minor coronary can precipitate the electrical abberation that causes sudden death.

Walt

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Re: Water & Salt

Posted by Dee [252.1114] on August 07, 2004 at 21:32:11:

In Reply to: Water & Salt posted by Lurch [1574.1228] on August 06, 2004 at 06:24:44:

So why do the docs make you stop eating salt when you have had a heart attack?



Re: Water & Salt

Posted by Vince F [173.9] on August 08, 2004 at 01:22:31:

In Reply to: Re: Water & Salt posted by Dee [252.1114] on August 07, 2004 at 21:32:11:

because 2% of people are Sensitive to salt. ALL aspirins are coated now because 2% of people are sensitive ti them and can get an irritaed stomach. I take them when my stomach IS irritated to relieve the pains.

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How can someone so seemingly healthy ...

Posted by Lincoln [2274.20] on August 09, 2004 at 17:26:22:

In Reply to: sudden heart attack posted by Julie [1050.4] on August 06, 2004 at 05:36:12:

...die? Obviously he wasn't as healthy as he seemed, that's how.

He may have just recently STARTED training for all you know. Maybe he was training because his doctor told him his heart was in poor shape. Was this a person who had ever COMPLETEd a triathalon?

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