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I guess I need some help figuring out how to fit SR,
exercise and healthy eating into my schedule in
consideration of the limitations I have on my time with
regards to the activities themselves and my medical
status.
The most likely diagnosis is LPR (a version of GERD
that affects the throat and higher). Like other GERD,
one should avoid lying down for 3 to 4 hours after
eating. That’s one condition. I have a wonderful SR
(hemisynch style) CD which runs about 40 minutes and
is designed to be listened to while lying down. Thats
another. According to this site, SR should not be done
close to bedtime, either before going to sleep or after
waking up. That’s three. Now it takes about half an
hour to prepare either breakfast or dinner. That’s four.
My commute to and from work is about 40 minutes
each way. Ditto and so on.
Note: I have some insomnia issues in that it takes me
about an hour or more to fall asleep, but I do get there,
hence I need to be retire, no later than 10:00 pm, and
that’s pushing it. I get up in the morning around 6 to
6:30 and need to leave for work by 7:15. I get home in
the evening around 5:45 to 6:00 pm. When I do the
math, it just doesn’t work at all.
For instance, no SR is possible in the morning
because of the above conditions. If I do it immediately
upon getting home, by the time I eat dinner, it is 7:30 or
later. Since I need to be in bed by 10 and also need to
avoid lying down for 3 - 4 hours, well again, the math
just doesn’t work! Conversely, if I have dinner first, I
cannot do the SR because I cannot lie down for 3 to 4
hours, which takes me right up to bedtime. Argh!!!! And
exercise? WHEN? (not good to exercise after eating,
right?)
Ok, you may say that I’m over-thinking this. Still, if I’m to
do these things the right way, I cannot figure out how.
There just aren’t enough hours in the day to do this
right and keep to the conditions.
So, in a round about way I’m asking if SR can still be
effective near bedtime because the best I can come up
with is: dinner right after work, followed by a half-an
hour walk (light exercise only after eating), and SR just
before bedtime 3 hours later, once a day. How do YOU
guys fit it in?
Eric
In Reply to: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 09:35:37:
Hi Eric,
Find a different way of doing SR where you don't have to lay down. Or do the same one and just don't lay down. It sounds like that would solve a lot of your issues.
About cooking: I use an electric steamer with a timer or a toaster oven to cook my food. I just put the food in, turn them on, and then don't spend any more time cooking. For example, pork chops do well either in the steamer or the oven. Vegetables do well in the steamer. They don't need to be watched. It takes about a half hour to do the cooking and that is the time I do my SR (or other things).
Hope this helps.
Jan
In Reply to: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 09:35:37:
I have found that we all have the same 24 hours...from nobel winners to ceo's to stay at home moms. SO, the focus should be first for you to figure out what you are doing wrong that you don't have time for basic health.
In Reply to: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 09:35:37:
cooking-you can prepare a week's worth of food in a couple of hours. When I was working 14 hours a day,61/2 days a week, I had Sunday afternoon off. I'd prepare a large pot of brown rice and a vegan lasagna or casserole and refrigerate them. Each night, when I'd come home, I'd take out my cast iron skillet, add an inch of water, plop in a serving of main course, a serving of brown rice, and some frozen veggies, cover, turn onto high, and go change to comfy clothes and use the bathroom. Five minutes later, dinner was waiting for me. I'd also make a bunch of salads Sunday afternoon in individual sealed containers and grab one on the way out the door to work to use for lunch. Breakfast was often a slice of ezekiel bread and natural peanut butter, which I could eat while walking to work (works driving, too). If you're a meat eater, while you are preparing the rest of your food during that couple of hours of weekly cooking, you can have a chicken or two roasting and a pot of ground beef simmering in water when cooked, refrigerate and skim off the congealed fat). Then divide the chicken and beef into individual servings , wrap and freeze. Each morning, remove servings of meat from the freezer for that day's lunch and dinner. Take the lunch serving with you to work, leave the dinner serving in the fridge and add it to your skillet of rice and veggies in the evening.
Note: casseroles and brown rice rot faster if they are cooked with meat, so cook meat separately and only add it a few minutes before eating.
Cook a gallon of tea at a time, cool , and refrigerate, so you can always grab some without more prep time.
In Reply to: Re: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Happygal [2070.23] on December 21, 2004 at 09:49:15:
D'oh... a timer, of course. Y'know, sometimes you can't
see the forest for the trees!
My dinner is mostly steamed vegetables, but they only
take 20-30 minutes, CD is 40 minutes... so the timer is
the way to go. Two things at once, what I call time
nesting. Thanks.
I have tried to do the CD at work after a quick lunch (I
cook and freeze up all my lunches on the weekend), but
it just doesn't work sitting up and there's no place to lie
down at work (no, car doesn't work either, tried it). Of
course I could try a different "technique," but without a
biofeedback device, I wouldn't know if I was wasting my
time. This CD just WORKS, that's what it is designed to
do.
Anyway, thanks for the PRACTICAL advice.
Eric
In Reply to: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 09:35:37:
Dr. Stoll said doing SR when you wake up is ok...
In Reply to: Re: we all have the same 24 hours posted by Michele [6.814] on December 21, 2004 at 09:54:05:
Uhm, that's the point, I couldn't figure out WHERE to
find the time, and was asking for advice, not criticism!
Now, if I read your tone wrong, I apologize for a sharp
retort 'cause I've felt frustrated. I just wanted to know
how other people have managed, especially when
there are physical limitations.
Cheers.
In Reply to: Re: we all have the same 24 hours posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 10:50:52:
I was just showing you that the real issue is that you have to organize your time before you even begin to think of the other stuff...I was like you yeararsrssrrs ago...since then I had a yoga and massage therapy studio and am really into wellness - and realized that the "no time" thing was based from my own lack of prioritizing time for ME.
I have had so many clients who say "I don't have time to do yoga in the AM" and a host of people with health issues as well with similar retorts ---however, for each of them, I had at least 5-10 folks with more stressors (time, health) who did find the time.
It's all in priority.
I wasn't being critical, just blunt and trying to get to the root of the issue. Sorry if I sounded so!
In Reply to: Re: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by ANN [1003.516] on December 21, 2004 at 10:17:47:
ANN, All very well, but devoid of nutrients!
Maz
In Reply to: (wasn't being critical :) posted by Michele [6.814] on December 21, 2004 at 11:34:59:
During your commute (if you take a train or subway) you can close your eyes and listen to a meditation CD...it isn't as great as meditating at home, but it will help you to relax and learn techniques to block out stress and cope with stress.
You can make a meal on say, Monday - and have leftovers on Tuesday...and make a soup out of it on Wednesday.
You can also have meals premade when you have time, and use that time to be creative and "wind down"...
You can during insomnia, take that time to meditate (seize the day!)
You can go to bed a half hour earlier and wake up a half hour earlier, and take that time to meditate as well.
Although Dr. Stoll says that meditation should be at certain times, the information all over science and via buddhist monks is that anytime is better than none - and that often, the time you choose is the best time for YOU.
Do you exercise at all? I'd add 20 minutes a day of cardio to start, and some weight training. I bet you begin to sleep better too.
In Reply to: Re: (wasn't being critical :) posted by Michele [6.814] on December 21, 2004 at 12:05:13:
Michelle,
I've already considered most of the possibilities. Sigh.
And really appreciate your extended reply.
But here's what I mean...
I drive, no public transporation goes to where I work.
I precook and freeze most of my meals already, and so
like at least one meal to be fresh.... okay, so I can have
berries and kefir for breakfast instead - that'll free up the
evening :).
I thought Dr. Stoll said that SR at bedtime isn't effective.
But y'know, it is true, anytime is better than none. Got to
work on the "goal orientation" mentality.
I'd love to do 20 minutes of cardio, but then I'm back to
my time problem... not good after dinner, no time
before. Remember, 3 - 4 hours no lying down (and I
guess not working out).
But, don't get the idea I don't appreciate the comments,
I really do, it's just tough when you've ALREADY
considered some of the answers given.
Anyway, I know (from my spiritual training), that what
you learn from the journey is more important than the
outcome. However, it can be difficult to apply to yourself
when you feel lousy and want to get better as soon as
possible.
The d'cleric part is real, it is an avocation that has been
put on hold because LPR can be socially isolating and
keeps you from being able to be a public speaker. I'm
not an inpatient person by nature, but my ability to serve
has been curtailed, and I feel a strong desire to get
back.
Well, thank you, and I'm happy that you've found your
wellness path. Still seeking mine.
Blessings.
In Reply to: Re: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Maz [31.1498] on December 21, 2004 at 12:02:16:
peanut butter, ezekiel bread,salad, meat, vegan lasagna, vegan casserole(perhaps lentil and tahini, perhaps grain with split peas or beans), brown rice, and vegetables are devoid of nutrients? In what universe?
In Reply to: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with limita posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 09:35:37:
nmi
In Reply to: Did you try Ginger Root Juice for GERD? nmi posted by North*Star [1110.33] on December 21, 2004 at 15:56:40:
Yes, going on a month now. I make it fresh every 4 days, and keep
it in a small amber bottle in the refrigerator, minimizing exposure to
air.
So far I haven't noticed any difference that I can tell is from the
GRJ. But my symptoms are mainly in my throat, nose and burning
tongue (LPR), even though it should be GERD related. I rarely
have any burning in my stomach, and those rare situations have
not decreased with GRJ.
The only improvement that seems reproducible is my nose/throat
will stop burning after I take Gaviscon (which I DETEST because it
contains Aluminum), or doubling up on PPI's. Sudafed will
sometimes help with the phlegm.
An intuitive naturopath friend is convinced that this is Candida
related, and so (just in case), I totally modified my diet and include
probiotic foods too. (Kefir is yummy) I'm not convinced. So I'm still
gathering data, i.e. an EGD is scheduled in a few weeks to check
out my stomach, LES, etc to see if there is actually a mechanical
cause. The results of that will influence the direction I go with this.
Allergy was a dead end, who knows?
But back to your question, I'm giving GRJ eight weeks. It's not so
bad, I've now gotten to actually like ginger. But so far, nada.
In Reply to: Re: Not enough time - Fitting SR/exercise/healthy eating into a schedule with li posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 10:25:05:
Hi Eric,
"Biofeedback" -- have you read the information in the glossary to know if you are getting the results? When you know in your body what it feels like to reach alpha/relaxation response, then you won't need biofeedback any more. Look in the glossary under "Relaxation Response" for a full description.
Best wishes,
Jan
In Reply to: Re: Neither was I - it's just that.... posted by Eric d'cleric [3011.129] on December 21, 2004 at 12:31:22:
Was taking small, small steps. I didn't get into it overnight. I found this board at the end of my path actually..I feel really on the right track now.
But for years, I took very, very small steps to wellness...a 10 minute nap here, a carrot there, a few times writing in a journal seeking my demons I was oversighting with spirituality and pureness.
It was a slow road, but just being ON the road felt good. At times it felt awkward and new, but that was just part of the exciting trip. :)
You'll get there..you are "here" so you are already on your way.
In Reply to: How I found my path... posted by Michele [20.814] on December 21, 2004 at 22:43:13:
Thanks, Michele.
Walt
In Reply to: Re: Did you try Ginger Root Juice for GERD? nmi posted by Eric d'cleric [858.129] on December 21, 2004 at 18:41:32:
The PPIs and antacids may actually be making your problem worse. I highly recommend that you read Sherry Rogers book on the stomach. Here's a link:
In Reply to: Re: Did you try Ginger Root Juice for GERD? nmi posted by Ms. D. [634.1384] on December 23, 2004 at 09:03:12:
It may be so, however my problem isn't heartburn, it's LPR (all in
the throat, mouth and sinuses)... likely related to GERD.
Aggressive usage of PPI's and H2's seems to have led to a
significant improvement, but it's a three steps forward, two steps
back kind of recovery.
I suspect that my BP medication may have an influence on this too.
(Calcium channel blockers can affect the LES) After I have my
endoscopic exam I will decide how to proceed. If appropriate, I
would like to get off as many medications as possible under my
doctor's supervision (she is VERY open to alternative therapies
and only went ahead with the heavy dosages because that is per
the guidelines for LPR). The worry I have is that LPR can rebound
BADLY, and since it takes 6 months to a year for significant
recovery (under normal circumstances), let's just say that would be
intolerable right now. So my backing off would have to be closely
supervised.
But, yes, I do feel that the medications are not where I want to be,
but I've got to see if this is a "mechanical" problem or otherwise.
I am looking into alternatives and continue with my meditations
and healthy eating. The only exercise I actually get is AT work. I
have to go up and down two flights of stairs at least 30 times a day
while doing my job. :)
In Reply to: Re: PPI's might be making it worse posted by Eric d'cleric [858.129] on December 24, 2004 at 11:50:44:
Knowledge is not a bad thing. I would still recommend that you read as much as you can for yourself rather than relying on an m.d., even one who is open to alternative therapies. Sherry Rogers does an excellent job of explaining the mechanics of the stomach, how the PPIs work, and why they are ultimately harmful, regardless of your diagnosis. Have you found some helpful info. on this site?
In Reply to: Re: PPI's might be making it worse posted by Eric d'cleric [858.129] on December 24, 2004 at 11:50:44:
Hi Eric,
I think I have solved your time problem...
You are going up and down 2 flights of stairs 30 times a day
and you still feel the need to walk after supper....???
Why not use that time to do the SR instead?
Ron
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